Temperature on liquid

[Ben Killeen]

well it’s about -18’C here right now, and I walked my dogs this morning whilst vaping.
When I got inside, my liquids had separated.
Had a very watery top layer and a thick gel lick substance at the bottom.

Gave it a shake to mix back up bit now it has balls of thick gel rolling around in the thinner liquid

Anyone else experience this?

 

[zoiDman]

Hi Ben. Welcome to the ECF.

Can't say that I have ever seen an e-liquid separate like this. But then again, I Can't recall vaping when it has been so Cold outside.

After the e-Liquid warmed up from being inside your house for awhile, did it go back into Solution?

 

[Ben Killeen]

Hi Ben. Welcome to the ECF.

Can't say that I have ever seen an e-Liquid separate like this. But then again, I Can't recall vaping when it has been so Cold outside.

After the e-Liquid warmed up from being inside your house for awhile, did it go back into Solution?

Yes it went back into solution eventually, but remained much thinner some how.

It behaved like water as 90/10 vg/pg

 

[zoiDman]

Yes it went back into solution eventually, but remained much thinner some how.

It behaved like water as 90/10 vg/pg

Many High VG e-liquid have a small amount of Water in them to help with wicking. Perhaps the Water started to Freeze? Or perhaps it was one of the Flavorings/Sweeter?

 

[stols001]

Um I don't know other than to say, don't be vaping in that type of weather or be walking the dogs. Poor things. I suppose it makes a certain theoretical amount of sense that it could change your liquid, but I'm not entirely sure how. Etc.

Anna

 

[Llamasquito]

Yep.
If i recall correctly, you are in finland aswell.
The coldness at winters messes with wicking, alot. I mix juices differently to avoid this but still, its like glue after a while in the cold.
Seems alot thicker and also how you said, it has layers, my guess its just separating, havent paid attention to it much myself.

Edit: oh, you were experiencing the opposite, lol.
I experience it thickening, alot, ALOT.
Have not seen it behaving like water

 

[Ben Killeen]

Um I don't know other than to say, don't be vaping in that type of weather or be walking the dogs. Poor things. I suppose it makes a certain theoretical amount of sense that it could change your liquid, but I'm not entirely sure how. Etc.

Anna

Well boiling and freezing liquids can change the way their molecules behave so who knows

And I can’t vape inside, nor can the dogs do their business inside, so no choice.

At least it’s not February yet and -40’C outside

 

[Ben Killeen]

Yep.
If i recall correctly, you are in finland aswell.
The coldness at winters messes with wicking, alot. I mix juices differently to avoid this but still, its like glue after a while in the cold.
Seems alot thicker and also how you said, it has layers, my guess its just separating, havent paid attention to it much myself.

Yes I am.
Further south than I was for the past 5 years, so a bit warmer here than above Oulu.

 

[Llamasquito]

Yes I am.
Further south than I was for the past 5 years, so a bit warmer here than above Oulu.

Yep, im at the middle, doesnt need much coldness for wicking issues though :/

 

[Ben Killeen]

Yep, im at the middle, doesnt need much coldness for wicking issues though :/

Currently in Seinäjoki, you?

 

[Llamasquito]

Currently in Seinäjoki, you?

Close to jyväskylä.

 

[Hawise]

At least it’s not February yet and -40’C outside

-45 C was where I used to decide that I didn't really need a cigarette that badly.

Unlike most of the people who've replied so far, I have vaped at below -18, and I've never experienced anything like that. I usually just go out for a short period to vape, so my equipment starts off warm and the vaping keeps it from getting to cold. If I'm out for a while I keep the vape in an inside pocket so it doesn't get too cold. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've let my setup get down to really low temperatures so I don't know what the ejuice would do.

An even bigger concern is the effect of winter temperatures on batteries. I expect you already know that batteries don't work well when it's too cold, but recharging a cold lithium battery crosses the line from 'doesn't work well' into 'significant potential to cause an explosion'. You can actually end up electroplating the lithium in the battery if it's below zero, so always make sure your batteries have warmed up before charging.

Um I don't know other than to say, don't be vaping in that type of weather or be walking the dogs. Poor things.

Just as I don't understand how humans can continue to function at temperatures over 30 C (86 f), I've found a lot of people don't fully appreciate that life goes on at -30 C if you live somewhere that spends an appreciable amount of time there. People (and dogs) physiologically adjust to +/- 30 temperatures, so it's not as bad as it sounds to someone who isn't used to it. I doubt it would be wise to take a small dog on a long walk in that kind of weather, but the golden retriever I grew up with loved going for a romp at -18. We did have to watch out for ice buildup on her paws, though.

 

[Ben Killeen]

-45 C was where I used to decide that I didn't really need a cigarette that badly.

Unlike most of the people who've replied so far, I have vaped at below -18, and I've never experienced anything like that. I usually just go out for a short period to vape, so my equipment starts off warm and the vaping keeps it from getting to cold. If I'm out for a while I keep the vape in an inside pocket so it doesn't get too cold. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've let my setup get down to really low temperatures so I don't know what the ejuice would do.

An even bigger concern is the effect of winter temperatures on batteries. I expect you already know that batteries don't work well when it's too cold, but recharging a cold lithium battery crosses the line from 'doesn't work well' into 'significant potential to cause an explosion'. You can actually end up electroplating the lithium in the battery if it's below zero, so always make sure your batteries have warmed up before charging.



Just as I don't understand how humans can continue to function at temperatures over 30 C (86 f), I've found a lot of people don't fully appreciate that life goes on at -30 C if you live somewhere that spends an appreciable amount of time there. People (and dogs) physiologically adjust to +/- 30 temperatures, so it's not as bad as it sounds to someone who isn't used to it. I doubt it would be wise to take a small dog on a long walk in that kind of weather, but the golden retriever I grew up with loved going for a romp at -18. We did have to watch out for ice buildup on her paws, though.

Yeah I know about battery’s and the cold, used to cycle my e-bike everyday to work in winter, up in oulu.

Our chow chow loves the snow and cold

 

[stols001]

It's fine Finns, l get it. I was kidding

If I lived in Finland, I might move. It's also okay, I am familiar with the dour, Finnish "humor" of sorts. Not only was my best friend a Finn Expat, (her dad was the king of worst case scenarios, his other daughter had a cast, and stomped outside to grab a cat for literally one minute, and she got a lecture that ended with "maggots will get into your cast." LOL) but my Cross country and History teacher was a FInn and we HATED each other until I joined up one year and he saw I was capable of working hard. LOL.

I don't function so super in cold weather but I'm kind of well, from Aus to begin with. I realize you can bundle up in the cold (to an extent) while there are only so many layers you can take OFF but I'm fairly comfortable with a 112 degree day (F) to be quite honest.

I do then worry about the heat prism-ing up in my car, exploding my batteries so I don't leave them in there . If you want to consider that all habitats lead to vaping problems.

Dogs can also poop indoors. I'm just saying. I get that one might not want them too. But I have one who is not only capable of it, he does it every chance he gets (rescue dog).

Anna

 

[Ben Killeen]

It's fine Finns, l get it. I was kidding

If I lived in Finland, I might move. It's also okay, I am familiar with the dour, Finnish "humor" of sorts. Not only was my best friend a Finn Expat, (her dad was the king of worst case scenarios, his other daughter had a cast, and stomped outside to grab a cat for literally one minute, and she got a lecture that ended with "maggots will get into your cast." LOL) but my Cross country and History teacher was a FInn and we HATED each other until I joined up one year and he saw I was capable of working hard. LOL.

I don't function so super in cold weather but I'm kind of well, from Aus to begin with. I realize you can bundle up in the cold (to an extent) while there are only so many layers you can take OFF but I'm fairly comfortable with a 112 degree day (F) to be quite honest.

I do then worry about the heat prism-ing up in my car, exploding my batteries so I don't leave them in there . If you want to consider that all habitats lead to vaping problems.

Dogs can also poop indoors. I'm just saying. I get that one might not want them too. But I have one who is not only capable of it, he does it every chance he gets (rescue dog).

Anna

I’m not a Finn haha