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I think I figured out why mine was leaking but dont want to speak too soon, But... I think I had the positive post tightened way too tight, I had the small o-ring compressed down to like 1mm so I reassembled it just compressing the oring a little bit but not gorilla grip tightening it.
Now its not leaking but I have to keep the juice control closed. I tried to open it with a few twists but began to gurgle again.
Is it normal to have to leave the juice control closed?
My top oring is tight and lubed up with a little vaseline, mouthpiece is centered as well.
I have a question and figure if there's somebody who knows the answer, this is the thread to look.
I picked up a ~30 USD Ody clone to see if I could manage the builds with NR wire this new into vaping before I dropped a lot of money on something more high end. I use it with a Sigelei #19 and a Fusions Mods SG-1 kit. When it's working as it should, I love the vape but I've recently been running into some problems. My question is are these problems that happen with the Term/Nautilis/Odysseus, is it user error or is this clone such a cheapie that it comes with issues like these. Here's my problem:
When I have the device assembled and working and I adjust the juice flow, sometimes the entire metal part that holds the ceramic housing will unscrew along with it, thus disconnecting the positive pin from the battery. I've been very careful to not screw the mouthpiece on tightly when I assemble so it's not locking on too tight. Basically, the "juice control" twists the whole coil housing right out of the base.
I'm hoping this is my fault and somebody can give me tips on how to fix it. I really love the design and I'm interested in investing in the real thing (or something more similar) as long as I know this won't be an issue with them.
I picked up a ~30 USD Ody clone to see if I could manage the builds with NR wire this new into vaping before I dropped a lot of money on something more high end. I use it with a Sigelei #19 and a Fusions Mods SG-1 kit. When it's working as it should, I love the vape but I've recently been running into some problems. My question is are these problems that happen with the Term/Nautilis/Odysseus, is it user error or is this clone such a cheapie that it comes with issues like these. Here's my problem:
When I have the device assembled and working and I adjust the juice flow, sometimes the entire metal part that holds the ceramic housing will unscrew along with it, thus disconnecting the positive pin from the battery. I've been very careful to not screw the mouthpiece on tightly when I assemble so it's not locking on too tight. Basically, the "juice control" twists the whole coil housing right out of the base.
I'm hoping this is my fault and somebody can give me tips on how to fix it. I really love the design and I'm interested in investing in the real thing (or something more similar) as long as I know this won't be an issue with them.
If it's the o-ring at the base of the ceramic housing and not compressed really far the the post is liable to turn when screwing/unscrewing the ceramic assembly, the o-ring at the base of the ceramic needs to be really tight. These two small o-rings on the bottom are more electrical insulators than for sealing. If You are able to vape it for more than a couple of drags then there is an air leak.
If you go way back in this thread you can see two "tests" I did, one has no bottom o-ring and doesn't leak and one with no wick and coil and it doesn't leak. Your problem is for sure at the tank top seal.
If you go way back in this thread you can see two "tests" I did, one has no bottom o-ring and doesn't leak and one with no wick and coil and it doesn't leak. Your problem is for sure at the tank top seal.
@ 1w15h1w45m0ngu, tighten down the ring on the ceramic housing against the base tighter and don't tighten down the mouthpiece that tightly
If this happens if the juice control is already open and you open it some more, could also be bad/rough/tight/crossed threads.
Mine seems to dribble a little bit every now and then since I got it just enough to make me want to clean the post every few hrs, but im ocd about these things. I have had the JC open all the times as well. It's not as bad as yours seems to be but it does annoy me a bit. The same thing happened with my RSST but i kinda nixed that. I don't think if all the seals are good you should have to have the JC closed but I think eventually, over time, juice will get out. Your problem seems more serious than that, gotta be an o-ring issue IMO.
i just got some 9x2mm orings in the mail so I guess ill try replacing the stock one. I have the top oring lubed and mouthpiece is centered and top cap is screwed down as tight as can be done by hand. I thought it was my small wicks but dw has tested these without wicks and no leaks, arggg.... frustrating
Was tasting a little dry so opened the JC up about 1mm and got instant gurgles.
Was tasting a little dry so opened the JC up about 1mm and got instant gurgles.
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This is a great tip, when I first did this it helped the problem a lot. I've been very careful to tighten down the grounding ring and keep the mouthpiece loose when I realized that might be causing the problem. Unfortunately, the issue persisted after this.
I'm thinking this is my issue, I'm working with a clone with no window so I can't see how open my juice control is (more motivation to buy a Term/Ody) and my threads could be in better shape. I imagine it's a bit of a combination of both.
Thanks a bunch for the advice; that was a very quick answer from both of you kind folks.
my tobeco from silica wicks came in today... Its flooding like crazy, I end up drinking liquid up the mouthpiece like a straw.. why is this? Can someone point me in the right direction to fix this? I'm pretty sure its flooding through the channels.
A few things to check...
First and most important, make sure that the oring under the top cap that goes around the mouthpiece is snug around the mouthpiece and makes a good seal to keep air from going in to the tank. This would be the only reason liquid would flood like that, meaning air entering the tank. If the tank is sealed properly, you can put water in the tank with no wick in the channels and it shouldnt leak like that.
Make sure you arent opening the mouthpiece too far, allowing too much liquid in the atomizing chamber.
the only other thing i can think of is not enough wick in the channels.
More than likely, the tank isnt sealed properly somewhere....usually a problem with the oring around the mouthpiece. But it wouldnt hurt to disassemble everything and put it all back together making sure all of the orings seat and seal properly.
went downstairs to eat... came back up to juice leaking out of my mkb-ts.
Ive checked all orings on this thing, lubed em,tried different ones, rebuilt coil twice..... doesnt stop leaking.
uggghh , so frustrated I feel like throwing it on the cassifieds.
Spent a whole day messing with this thing and I just dont see how it could be leaking still.
I read about oddys leaking from using the negative NR wire under the retaining ring..... Should I try a different way to ground it?
Ive checked all orings on this thing, lubed em,tried different ones, rebuilt coil twice..... doesnt stop leaking.
uggghh , so frustrated I feel like throwing it on the cassifieds.
Spent a whole day messing with this thing and I just dont see how it could be leaking still.
I read about oddys leaking from using the negative NR wire under the retaining ring..... Should I try a different way to ground it?
QUOTE "Spent a whole day messing with this thing and I just dont see how it could be leaking still.
I read about oddys leaking from using the negative NR wire under the retaining ring..... Should I try a different way to ground it?"
But of coarse, wrap it around the wick between the ceramic housing and the base, had I known that you were putting it under the ring I'd have mentioned it it earlier. Some folks are having good results trapping the NR under the ring but I sure don't see how.
There are quite a few pictures of the wire wrapped around the wick throughout this thread.
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I read about oddys leaking from using the negative NR wire under the retaining ring..... Should I try a different way to ground it?"
But of coarse, wrap it around the wick between the ceramic housing and the base, had I known that you were putting it under the ring I'd have mentioned it it earlier. Some folks are having good results trapping the NR under the ring but I sure don't see how.
There are quite a few pictures of the wire wrapped around the wick throughout this thread.
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Sweet.... good to narrow down my problem!
Ill rebuild it in the morning and hopefully will have good news to report =-)
Ill rebuild it in the morning and hopefully will have good news to report =-)
QUOTE "Spent a whole day messing with this thing and I just dont see how it could be leaking still.
I read about oddys leaking from using the negative NR wire under the retaining ring..... Should I try a different way to ground it?"
But of coarse, wrap it around the wick between the ceramic housing and the base, had I known that you were putting it under the ring I'd have mentioned it it earlier. Some folks are having good results trapping the NR under the ring but I sure don't see how.
There are quite a few pictures of the wire wrapped around the wick throughout this thread.
from USchains
Almost everyone including myself had this same problem in the beginning. Now that I know them well they are 100% dependable (we all no there's no such thing as 100% dependable but more or less still true). Once you get on to it and the confusion is gone the're a snap to build and use.
Ive spent a whole day rebuildingmy tobeco and its still leaking. Ive come to the conclusion that the leaking is being caused to a flooded ceramic chamber through the airhole. I did a test just to be sure; I put two cotton stickers, extras from my in ear monitor headphones in the bottom of the chamber under the coil. ( the stickers are basically a circle of breathable felt with adhesive on one side used filter the end of my iem headphones.) This seamed to slow the leaking down however after a few drags and with the mouth piece slightly open, barely at all, it started leaking. Opened it up looked in the ceramic chamber and the stickers were drenched with juice. My results are this.. When the mouthpiece is closed tight no leaking. As soon as I turn even the slihgtestest amount it floods the ceramic chamber. I gave up many hours ago and will try again another day when I get some more nonresistance wire.
I have an early Tobeco Oddy clone, the o-ring is unable to be in the top tank cap under the collar so it goes on the mouthpiece on the inside of the tank on the mouthpiece stem. In order to get a seal with it you have to open the mouthpiece all the way and compress that o-ring against the tank top. It essentially doesn't have an adjustable liquid control just open or closed. If for some reason you think it is open too far use 2 o-rings on the mouthpiece stem.
If it so happens that your o-ring does indeed go into the tank top under the collar tell us and post a picture if possible.
Lot's of great info in here... 
I've been using Terminators since they first came out, and leaking issues can usually be traced back to the the mouthpiece O-ring, the ceramic locking ring, or direct flooding through the ceramic. I have always trapped my NR wire under the locking ring with no leaking. I just keep the wire in the ceramic channel, and tighten the ring snugly with pliers.
Imeo (GG) designed these attys to be used primarily with the GGTS. The collector tank is there to catch any stray drops without running down the mod, and the air-control really helps in keeping the juice drawing up the ceramic channels. Personally, I wouldn't want to run the Terminator without some sort of air-control, and am happy the MKB-TS is an option.
The reference to water is good.. Master building the device using water instead of juice without leaking. Once mastered, I can say the MKB-TS, Oddy / GGTS base, and Terminator, is a total high-performance vaping machine. 
When mine is setup, and the liquid / air-control is adjusted to my liking, I just keep filling it up over and over... Speaking of filling.. I fill mine from under the mouthpiece O-ring with a syringe... all the way to where the taper begins at the very top of the cap..
I've been using Terminators since they first came out, and leaking issues can usually be traced back to the the mouthpiece O-ring, the ceramic locking ring, or direct flooding through the ceramic. I have always trapped my NR wire under the locking ring with no leaking. I just keep the wire in the ceramic channel, and tighten the ring snugly with pliers. Imeo (GG) designed these attys to be used primarily with the GGTS. The collector tank is there to catch any stray drops without running down the mod, and the air-control really helps in keeping the juice drawing up the ceramic channels. Personally, I wouldn't want to run the Terminator without some sort of air-control, and am happy the MKB-TS is an option.
The reference to water is good.. Master building the device using water instead of juice without leaking.
Once mastered, I can say the MKB-TS, Oddy / GGTS base, and Terminator, is a total high-performance vaping machine. When mine is setup, and the liquid / air-control is adjusted to my liking, I just keep filling it up over and over... Speaking of filling.. I fill mine from under the mouthpiece O-ring with a syringe... all the way to where the taper begins at the very top of the cap.. 
I somehow broke my window tank, it may have been my DIY menthol juice which also caused problems with the silver NR wire I was useing, causing it to tarnish, and turn my silica black and give me a headach,so I have in hand a new steel tank replacement and tomorrow should have nickel NR wire and if all goes well the Terminator will surely please
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