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[LadyLuck]

Hi guys,

First off, I want to say thanks. This forum has become my sanctuary. I've been vaping for about a month now. Every time I have a question, or a curiosity...I can usually find it within the forums. I just got into DIY e-juice. I made my first 5 ml bottles tonight with great success. Why? Because I found a calculator on ECF and a ton of posts on the subject. Drip tips? Cartomizers? The posts here on ECF helped me with those too. I am so thankful to have found a community where a newbie can bumble around cluelessly and find exactly what they need.

My question is for my grandmother, who is having trouble with vaping. If she vapes in the evening for any short length of time, her tongue and lips feel like they are burning. I was wondering if anyone has heard of this before. My mother and I have not experienced this. I'm going to try switching her to pure VG in case it's a PG reaction. She's using a standard eGo (with the cone on) and basic carts. I haven't inspected her equipment yet, but I'm also going to check the chamber of her cartridge. If she's getting juice in her mouth, that can be a warm sensation.

I know as we age, our skin gets thinner. So it might just be that the vapor is too hot for her. If that's the case, what's the coolest atty we can try? Can anyone think of any other reason she might be experiencing this?

Thanks,

Jen

 

[rwnielsen]

where a newbie can bumble around cluelessly

That's pretty funny right there

You might try a cartomizer, standard resistance. They tend to run cooler that an atty/cart comb.
I get a burning on my tongue sometimes if I'm not careful

 

[madjack]

...possibly be too much juice in the carts...maybe try cartomizers in the 2.8-3ohm range with a drip tip to keep her lips as far as possible from the juice.........
madjack

 

[dee5]

I think it would be a real good idea to try out her kit and check for juice leakage. If she is overfilling her carts this can certainly happen. If that is the case, take everything apart and wipe off excess juice, blow out her atomizer too to rid of excess. It is also possible but not as likely that the cart is too dry and she is feeling actual heat from the atomizer getting too hot due to lack of juice. Since you have more experience than she does, you'd best check it out for her. When you say standard Ego, do you mean one with a 510 atty? They tend to create a warmer vape than a 901 atty. But a 901 won't fit on the 510 Ego connector without an adapter, so you would have to get an adapter to switch to the cooler vaping 901 atty. They are probably available from the same vendor she got her kit from.

In my experience cartomizers run warmer than an atty/cartridge combo does.

 

[Stosh]

A slightly weaker juice, less nicotine might help. The nic on your lips
or in you mouth would cause a burning sensation. Grammy may just need a
little less nicotine in the evening.

 

[LadyLuck]

Thanks so much for the advice. She's using a 510. The only reason I haven't set her up with a carto is that her eyesight is very poor. I used a syringe to fill mine. I could fill one for her, but will it require a full refill in the future? I think she could handle topping it off, but would I need to go over there periodically and use a syringe to ensure the entire carto is wet? I haven't used mine long enough to know.

 

[Drozd]

PG can also act as a sort of dessicant... it'll draw the moisture out of you....so it could be dry and scratchy because it's dehydrating her in a sort of localized way... se if getting her to drink more water helps...
As for what's coolest in terms of atties ...that depends on what she's currently using...joye 510 is typically 2.5 ohms for a standard808 carts were standard at 3 ohms but I think that's dropped since I last looked at cartos...801 and 510 knock off were around 3.5 ohm standard ..and 901 was at about 3.7 ohm...
So going by ohm on a standard 3.7V battery....the higher the ohms the cooler the vapor....

So you can get hv versions of atomisers all the way into the 4+ ohm range

 

[LadyLuck]

Thanks, Stosh. She's using 8 mg, and she's been continuing to smoke because it's not satisfying her. She's not vaping as much as she would normally smoke, because of the burning sensation. So, I've actually been looking into upping the mg in hopes that she would find it more satisfying if she can't chain vape like me...lol.

 

[dee5]

Up the nicotine to 18mg, check for too much juice in the cart thus causing leakage into her mouth and switch to a 901 atty. Also check how she's drawing on it. Is she sucking too hard, too fast? That can draw excess juice up into her mouth as well. Teach her the long, slow, easy draw with a quick exhale so she can see lots of vapor. And of course you would have to refill her carto's often (depending on her usage), or she could just twist on a new one when needed and save the others up for you to refill all at once if she has a large enough supply.

 

[LadyLuck]

Thanks, Dee. That sounds like a great way to go. I'm visiting her tomorrow and will troubleshoot to see if I can't narrow down her issues. I'm hellbent on getting her off those smokes regardless of what it takes. If I have to mod the eGo with a hookah attachment, I'll be damned if she won't look like a certain catapiller....

 

[Skeetergirl]

What a wonderful Granddaughter you are! Good luck and I hope you can figure it out quickly.

 

[Stosh]

......I'm hellbent on getting her off those smokes regardless of what it takes. If I have to mod the eGo with a hookah attachment, I'll be damned if she won't look like a certain catapiller....

There's a pre-moded hookah available really there is.... Drip On Demand Kit.....we'll help keep her off the smokes

 

[VapingRulz]

Maybe she'd like one of the bottom-feeding box mods. Easy to use and refill from what I hear.

 

[mafig]

hi LadyLuck & welcome to ECF..when i started vaping after 30+yrs on analogs..my whole mouth bistered,like uclers..only clear up after a few weeks..i used bonjela to ease the sores in my mouth..i think from the toxin from my years on analogs that cause my mouth to blistered..as for yr grandmother "her tongue and lips feel like they are burning" could be the same symptom i felt..just give it time for our mouth/body to heal from prolong usage of analogs..hope all well & she can vape happily without problem..regards mafig

 

[LadyLuck]

Quick update for everyone. I went over to see her yesterday. I checked her equipment and everything is fine. She vapes from the side of her mouth, and the burning sensation isn't even in that spot, but rather in the middle of her lips. So, I don't think it is the heat of the vapor.

I didn't remember until she mentioned it last night, that she's allergic to many types of lipstick. So, I'm beginning to think it might be a PG reaction? She also said the burning is beginning to lessen slightly since she began vaping. I switched her to a VG to see if that lessens to irritation. Mafig, I think you might be onto something. She might overcome the irritation as time goes by... if I can keep her vaping that long.

Stosh...that is a cool DOD. I might have to get one of those to play with.

 

[Stosh]

LOL, I have one and it's the only way to drip an atty.....