Well, I think I got through the learning curve on my GG and AVS this week. Made an Atty extender out of a drip tip and an it is a real treat. Then I get to thinking you guy's talking about the Odysseus and how great it is and that is about 4 levels in improvements over the AVS.........Man I can't wait to get my hands on one (note: anyone has an extra please let me know) Also, thank you Torqueguy for making the GG happen PS: got in trouble today for making to much FOG in the house