The anti E-cig Propaganda Bin

[junkman]

So, it seems ECF now has a policy of not allowing individual threads on this stuff? Can't say I agree with that approach at all.

 

[sonicdsl]

So, it seems ECF now has a policy of not allowing individual threads on this stuff? Can't say I agree with that approach at all.

Not sure what gave you that idea. There are hundreds of individual threads... primarily in the Legislation News and Media & General News forums. I do believe Smokey Joe is trying to put together a central place for anti-ecig propaganda in particular.... not as a rule, but as a tool.

 

[junkman]

Not sure what gave you that idea. There are hundreds of individual threads... primarily in the Legislation News and Media & General News forums. I do believe Smokey Joe is trying to put together a central place for anti-ecig propaganda in particular.... not as a rule, but as a tool.

Well, my thread on the Mayo was closed and the moderator said post such things here.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ussion/488071-mayo-clinic-should-ashamed.html

 

[Caridwen]

That article has already been posted-

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ocial-endangerment.html?highlight=mayo+clinic

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rruption-continued.html?highlight=mayo+clinic
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dr-jon-ebbert-parrots-fda-misinformation.html

Really, articles should be in Media and General News or the Sticky created for that purpose.

 

[Mediaguy]

This one is rich...

Apparently, 69% of young adult smokers started because of electronic cigarettes...

Originally the video and article both made the same claim, but it seems the article was cleaned up.

The video on the other hand still ends with the unfounded assertion:

More Kids Using E-Cigarettes - 4Utah.com

For shame...

 

[DruidPriest]

That clip is funny is hell

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[Ipster]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/s...but-they-have-some-unlikely-critics.html?_r=0

This article is trying to tell the public that American Heart Assoc; Amer.Cancer Society; et.al. are on board with the FDA as trying to classify the e-cig as a "drug delivery device". Worse yet comparisons are drawn to Teen pregnancy and ...... use! Upsetting info for the uninformed.

 

[DruidPriest]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/s...but-they-have-some-unlikely-critics.html?_r=0

This article is trying to tell the public that American Heart Assoc; Amer.Cancer Society; et.al. are on board with the FDA as trying to classify the e-cig as a "drug delivery device". Worse yet comparisons are drawn to Teen pregnancy and ...... use! Upsetting info for the uninformed.

Actually looks pretty unbiased to me. It is simply presenting both view points without taking sides without taking either.

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[fetalbounce]

Here's one from Huffington Post ( there's probably a few more there as well, they seem to be on the Big Tobacco bandwagon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/03/electronic-cigarettes_n_3818941.html

I dunno. That wasn't so bad. It kind of looked almost like an e-cig commercial to me.

 

[Ipster]

I dunno. That wasn't so bad. It kind of looked almost like an e-cig commercial to me.

with that title?
"9 Terribly Disturbing Things about e-Cigs" ??
Consider to the Non smoker, with little awareness of PVs, E-cigs; they'll be many who only skim the title- very disturbing to me.
thanks Ohio Points.

 

[Mediaguy]

iPad Air EXPLODES leading to mobile phone shop evacuation | Mail Online

Now this is only very tangentially related to exploding e-cigs... but with the kind of coverage this story is getting, how much do you want to bet some follow-up reparatory story will come out fully explaining and vindicating the thing...

Now how many times do we ever see any follow ups to the exploding ecig battery stories - unless it's on something like a forum or blog with little mainstream exposure, and usually the cause is the unfortunate user who misused the device...

Which is probably why we don't see follow ups there. They realize it's not the ecigarette's fault, and rather than present a next report that would have them admit they presumed incorrectly and make the victim look bad, it's just forgotten about until the next opportunity to make vape sticks look bad...

Note also the lack of any law suits resulting from "exploding e-cigarettes" despite all the ink devoted to them...

Sigh.

 

[djtonyb]

::headdesk::

Liquid nicotine: becoming street drug - 13WHAM - Featured

Liquid nicotine: becoming street drug - 13WHAM - Top Stories

PBusardo even blasted them in the second one.

 

[ph0kused]

Check out this by the Wallstreet Journal.... they have to have big tobacco behind them or something...

they've been on a rampage lately with only reporting stuff about exploding e-go batteries, minors using e-cigs, people smoking ......... oils out of them etc..

they even said these devices can be used (for other substances)?!?!

Seriously though.. wallstreet journal

10 Things E-Cigarettes Won't Tell You - WSJ.com

 

[DruidPriest]

What total crap...

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[Orb Skewer]

"Welcome to the home of Intelligence for your life"- John Tosh

.tesh.com/topics/all-categories/are-electronic-cigarettes-safer-than-regular-cigarettes/cc/6/id/5560

.tesh.com/story/health-and-well-being-category/you-may-think-e-cigarettes-are-safe-but-theyre-not/cc/6/id/6024

 

[Jay-dub]

I think this is just fad journalism. It's going to spread as long as it gets attention. My hope is that if it does spread it will oversaturate the media and people will begin to tune it out. Right now people's ignorance is being used to hype them up. Most of them will be curious enough to find out for themselves that they've been manipulated by hyperbole. Also, as more people vape more people will have friends and relatives that vape. They'll have first hand accounts and see the disconnect between the media and reality.

 

[Caridwen]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ssion/483619-anti-e-cig-propaganda-bin-2.html

 

[Orb Skewer]

I think this is just fad journalism. It's going to spread as long as it gets attention. My hope is that if it does spread it will oversaturate the media and people will begin to tune it out. Right now people's ignorance is being used to hype them up. Most of them will be curious enough to find out for themselves that they've been manipulated by hyperbole. Also, as more people vape more people will have friends and relatives that vape. They'll have first hand accounts and see the disconnect between the media and reality.

I would agree with that Jay, however, sometimes 'first impressions stick', there will be a lot of 'curious' smokers out there-ready to take that 'leap of faith' and may well be swayed by the hyperbole.

 

[Mediaguy]

I don't know about it being "fad journalism".

It's probably "internet filler journalism".

Even the biggest and supposed brightest of the news outlets have many press releases and easily synidcated content from any number of these aggregator and distribution scripts working together - but online.

You won't see the majority of these in the print editions without being vetted and researched.

In a way while the internet has triggered the propagation of electronic cigarettes, there's also a wholatta junk out there, and the opportunity to spread it far and wide as well...

 

[Mediaguy]

Here's a great sad stupid piece from GulfNews which obviously has to take the tack of the government:

E-cigarettes ban in UAE goes up in smoke | GulfNews.com

Sigh:

Dr Salwa Zaky Hanna, Senior Health Education Officer and Psychological Counsellor who overlooks the Smoking Cessation programme at the Abu Dhabi-based American Centre for Psychiatry and Neurology, warned about the harmful effects of nicotine in e-cigarettes.
She said: “Long-term smoking affects health adversely, and it is known to kill half of its users. Stroke, cataract and cancers of the mouth, throat, oesophagus and lungs are linked to nicotine.”

I mean... really? This is a Health Education Officer?!? Stroke, cataract and cancers of the mouth, throat, oesophagus and lungs are linked to nicotine?

How can we analyze this? Is she a doctor? Can she read? Does she know how to use Google? Can she spell?