The DID as a first genesis?
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souvik I thought the same thing while watching one of the reviews the wick was much smaller than the hole. The manufacturers video on the other hand the wick fits like a glove. He used the allen wrench that fits the screws on the unit to wrap the wick around perfect fit.
exactly Scotti.......but even if the wick fits snug into that hole, the size of it still remains a concern, i do understand (scientifically speaking) that in an ideal situation, juice will not leak through a single hole from an enclosed chamber, but in this case, there is a wick standing in there getting heated and cooled as used, which might lead to an air-pressure difference inside the liquid chamber. Well all this can only be clarified by someone using it for a while like Rickly...BTW how long is this product out in the market now ?
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According to this thread I have been reading http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/euro-suppliers/296166-new-genesis-type-atomizer-did.html 5/12/12 is when he started selling them.
They are changing the positive post and nuts to stainless (the brass tend to blacken--oxidyze--some say poison,not sure about that),stay tuned
Poison? Well brass does have a small amount 1.5% of lead in it but I would not consider that amount to be poisonous.
The Fatter wick is what makes this dam thing so good in my opinion, I have 2 DID units and both work awesome, especially on my Darwin, plumes of great tasting vapor. Not much tinkering needed, once you have a good wick and wire wrap just leave it alone keep filling and vaping away on it.
You can also use my dual wick set up placing one smaller wick inside the bigger wick if you want to, this works well also. I requested the SS Center pole and nuts long ago and I believe Jim is making them and they should be out shortly, some said I was crazy for asking but I would rather have the SS myself all day long, this way there is no oxidizing going on, however the Brass works and works well but still SS would be better IMHO.
The flavor is seriously great with a 2/3 wrap at very low watts set on my Darwin at only 4.2W which you cant do on other Mods, tons of vapor at these lower Watts also 4.2W to 5.6W on the Darwin is my sweet spot.
Here's a pic of the Regular DID on my P-5 and Short DID on my Darwin
You can also use my dual wick set up placing one smaller wick inside the bigger wick if you want to, this works well also. I requested the SS Center pole and nuts long ago and I believe Jim is making them and they should be out shortly, some said I was crazy for asking but I would rather have the SS myself all day long, this way there is no oxidizing going on, however the Brass works and works well but still SS would be better IMHO.
The flavor is seriously great with a 2/3 wrap at very low watts set on my Darwin at only 4.2W which you cant do on other Mods, tons of vapor at these lower Watts also 4.2W to 5.6W on the Darwin is my sweet spot.
Here's a pic of the Regular DID on my P-5 and Short DID on my Darwin
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I was talking about the black stuff that forms on the post and the nuts
I use a fat wick, so it snugs quite tightly into the 3.5 mm hole. I believe the large wick hole a very purposeful design feature, part of why it wicks and vapes like a truck. Now, quite frankly, I generally rest my DID in an old pipe holder so it remains mostly vertical. That said, I vape it horizontal quite often and have never seen a leak. In all my extensive reading and chatting with other DID users, leaking has never, to my knowledge, been sighted as a problem, even by people who leave the tank fill hole unsealed to intensity their juice flavor.
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Very interesting I think I will wait for the all stainless version. Thanks martinc!
There have been requests to move to ss from brass on center pole, but not because the brass is contaminating the juice tank. The juice tank is completely sealed from the brass. Rather, brass has been thought to oxidize and possibly corrode with use. Also some think the juice from the chamber may leach down the positive pole and further corrode the brass. I'm not sure if the mod maker has decided if this is a real problem or not. On the one hand brass is an excellent conductive material, on the other, some users concern. I am sure a solution will eventually be figured out, if required. Personally, I just take the thing apart from time to time and clean it, no worries for me. Have never heard of a poison worry as brass cannot leach into juice tank.
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I really believe it too be not much of a concern , the same kind of corrosion builds up on atomizer and carto connections all the time. Besides the juice in the tank is sealed from the brass. I understand the concern for our own safety but we still smoked cigs when we were well aware of a much greater health risk. Just don't lick the brass and you'll be fine
Not concern with brass at all. The same gunk build up in your clearomizer/vivi nova and all.
DID is a wonderful vape and looks great! Gonna grab a 2nd, just haven't decide if I want the regular or the shorty.
DID is a wonderful vape and looks great! Gonna grab a 2nd, just haven't decide if I want the regular or the shorty.
So the repairable DiD genesis style atty. Assuming the SS parts hold up, do you literally have an attomizer that could last forever, with only minor repairs?
The SS in this will hold up, its built like a truck and machined extremely well, better than any device I have ever owned. You are precisely right, this is an atomizer one needs only to recoil and rewick from time to time, both materials very inexpensive. No repairs should ever be necessary only periodic maintenance. Here is the wonderful part, it vapes better than any tank, carto, clearomizer, or drip tip I have ever owned. I bought a lifetime supply of kanthal for $6.00 USD, and enough mesh for wick to last 3 years for $15.00 USD. Hard to beat. Also you can buy parts off the web site if you break something.
Thanks (that's mine, in the picture, lol). Leaking is an issue if you don't use the fill hole screw, which I don't, because the flavor is better without it.
Anyway, in my opinion, there is no comparison possible between Genisis style atties like the DID and any of the disposable atties / cartos / clearos in terms of flavor and vapor production. You'd be very lucky to jump from -T to this, and you'll probably save a lot of money otherwise spent on Chinese beta tests. The people on that thread, and others, are really nice and helpful should you run into trouble with building wicks, oxidizing them, wrapping coils.
I'm not a fan of the brass center pin, but I think it's quite a stretch to call it poisonous. Jim will make available stainless steel pins and nuts soon so that's a non-issue.
I know it sounds too good to be true, but the standards are set low by the dispomizer industry - a wick can last you several good months, a coil at least two-three weeks, even more. Mesh and wire are quite cheap - essentially, $50 worth of the stuff might last you 4 years after you're done wasting it on tests and experiments.
I held it in this position for about 20 seconds and not a single drop, but I think pressure (which I don't know about) has a lot to do with it... just saying.
edit: and this is a 80/20 PG/VG juice
edit: and this is a 80/20 PG/VG juice
Well thanks to all your input the DID is going to be my 1st genesis. Just 2 more questions.
Rickly with your experience with the DID which gauge wire and mesh do you recommend?
Wasabi thanks for the leak experiment! Do you have any explanation why the juice tastes better with the fill hole left open this intrigues me?
Thanks guys for all your input so far,
Scott
Rickly with your experience with the DID which gauge wire and mesh do you recommend?
Wasabi thanks for the leak experiment! Do you have any explanation why the juice tastes better with the fill hole left open this intrigues me?
Thanks guys for all your input so far,
Scott
OK, for me I use #400 mesh, and kanthal 32 A-1. Now, I use 70/30 on my pg/vg mix. I get about 3.2ish on ohms because of the fat wick, and use my lavatube at about 4.4 volts. If you use thicker than 50/50 pg/vg you may be better off going to 325 mesh as it wicks better with thicker juice.
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