The DID as a first genesis?

[Ezkill]

I haven't really found that 325 is ever better in any of my Genesis devices, including DID's. A lot of people flat out recommend the 400 for the thicker juices. This includes some pretty well known genesis hybrid manufacturers. I use 400 for 100% VG and it works like a charm. I also use it for 70/30 PG/VG.

So the "DID"....it's a great device. It's one of the best Genesis devices around but it's likely going to be fiddly for a while. You have to temper your expectations. Frankly the odds of setting it up in a few minutes and having it perfectly dialed in and working are very low. Jim talks about that all through his thread. This is a hobby item not a plug and play device. Judging by the recent classifieds I think some people just didn't realize this when buying them. Jim flat out tells people this is an enthusiast device.

I'm glad people are showing you pictures of it not leaking juice and they generally don't. However the reality is a Genesis atomizer is a typically more wet device. What I mean is they get a build up of what some people have named "pluid" in the top of the cap. I think it's a mixture of condensation and un-atomzied juice. Will actual juice leak into the top? No, not if setup properly. Will you get up build ups of pluid that will sometimes shoot out the air hole, leak slightly in your pocket or drip on your table if you leave the it laying down..yes, yes you will.

Is this going to be a good, primary, carry around device? I don't know. That's really up to the individual. You may pull it out of your pocket and find that due to movement it's developed a new short and now you're getting horribly burned hits. This has happened to me on occasion. Not hard to fix, pull the top cap, wipe off the pluid and poke the coil a bit until everything is all good again. Just saying that someone might not want to do this.

That being said, this is a great Genesis atomizer. I can't recommend it highly enough so long as people understand what they are getting into.

 

[Scottibones]

Ezkill Thank you for taking the time to write that post very informative! I am a tinkerer and don't mind spending time on something as long as I get rewarded in the end. It really sounds like this is the device for me now just have to wait until they are back in stock

 

[Ezkill]

It's a great device and you can't go wrong if you are into tinkering.

What I've seen a lot of recently is people jumping into these whole hog and not realizing that it is not just going to work like a atomizer or carto. It takes patience and knowledge to get it setup properly. The youtube videos don't help either as they are all of people talking about how easy the coils are and are generally edited to show people slapping them together in minutes with no problems.

The best advice I can give anyone their first time is the wick is will make or break you, literally. I still do all these steps even though it's overkill but I don't like dealing with shorts:

1)Torch my sheet before I roll it.
2)Torch my rolled sheet over and over and quench
3)Season and light my wick on fire 3 times
4)Wrap the top of the wick were the coils will go with cigarette paper before I wrap my coil(the cigarette paper will burn off when you dry fire the coil and leave extra carbon for no shorts)

It may be overkill but I know people that have spend 4-5 hours repeatedly rebuilding because of shorts and hot spots. Take a few extra minutes in advance and you will save yourself some grief.

If you're doing this on a ProVari as you were saying that will add a level of difficulty as well. The ProVari's protection circuits kick in when it detects a short. I end up pulsing it and looking for hotspots before the short protection kicks in. You have some time before it actually shuts down and if you keep fixing and pulsing you can stop it from erroring out all the time.

 

[teamscon]

Same for me ... my vivi is rockin out hard .. have two of the new smok tech vivi's coming but doubt ill need them until this vivi's heads are all fried .. And it may be awhile lol.

 

[elfstone]

However the reality is a Genesis atomizer is a typically more wet device. What I mean is they get a build up of what some people have named "pluid" in the top of the cap. I think it's a mixture of condensation and un-atomzied juice. Will actual juice leak into the top? No, not if setup properly. Will you get up build ups of pluid that will sometimes shoot out the air hole, leak slightly in your pocket or drip on your table if you leave the it laying down..yes, yes you will.

Not hard to fix, pull the top cap, wipe off the pluid and poke the coil a bit until everything is all good again. Just saying that someone might not want to do this.

Well... you might be right, but I haven't heard anybody referring to the condensate as "pluid".

PLUID aka Mad Murdock's Radiator Pluid is a very special juice that I can't seem to stop vaping these days

The picture I posted above shows a drop of Pluid on my DID, after I filled it with that particular juice.

Puid bottle (safety equipment strongly sort of suggested)

And a nice Pluid review.

 

[Fisty]

Pluid is one of the best juices around. I really hope someone doesn't quote your post out of context and give Mad Murdock's magnum opus a bad name. It's fantastic in genisis style attys... and cartos.. it's strong enough to crack poly tanks, so don't use it in those.

And it absolutely has nothing what so ever to do with the nasty carmalized condensation that builds up in the cap of a genisis atty.

 

[Scottibones]

Dangit you two now I have another juice to add to my already long list of must haves!