The Erlkönigin : PICTORIAL

[winder]

Day two on an authentic Erlkonigin, and am very impressed with the capacity, flavor, and ease of refilling. Only complaint is the scratchy, LOUD airflow noise. Almost as bad as the Youde AGA-T7. Am running a 5/64 microcoil with KGD - pretty much my standard kayfun build. Could there be something I've done that would cause this, or is significant airflow noise inherent to this model?

 

[jaxgator]

Let me know how you make out this weekend with your new flasks. I'm hearing that there are a few other issues popping up with the dna40 amongst all modders. Thankfully, Vaporflask has been very proactive in trying to get to the bottom of it. Expecting my flask replacement to arrive today or tomorrow. Owner told me to keep using the one I have in regular mode until I get the replacement. Nice!

Will do Bud! So far, so good with my first Flask40, Had some problems with my first build but am starting to sort it out...

Well, I took pictures of my initial build. Loaded them to my PC. Resized them and for the life of me, I cannot find the originals or the resized pix. I guess I am losing my mind.

My previous post asking for help was user error (but, of course). After removing the chimney, I saw where the wick was browned only on one side. Why? Because this idiot bumped the coil out of position (shifted to one side of the air hole) and didn't notice before screwing the chimney back on. D'oh!

Nonetheless! I rebuilt the DNA40 tonight. Used a larger mandrel - 2.5mm. 10 wraps of 30g Ni200 ohming out to .21 and used my normal 22-24w. vaping wonderfully. 2 builds and I think I might have this figured out.

Getting the plumes I was with Kanthal and the flavor is there now. Shame I didn't take pix of the build. Oh well, next time.

 

[qorax]

The kid's did it!



Happy Halloween!

 

[slyphex]

Day two on an authentic Erlkonigin, and am very impressed with the capacity, flavor, and ease of refilling. Only complaint is the scratchy, LOUD airflow noise. Almost as bad as the Youde AGA-T7. Am running a 5/64 microcoil with KGD - pretty much my standard kayfun build. Could there be something I've done that would cause this, or is significant airflow noise inherent to this model?

It's definitely on the loud side, I don't think you're doing anything wrong. I'll tell you a hidden benefit though - I've never accidentally blocked the air hole with my hand!

 

[TheKiwi]

There's a certain charm to the sound really.

Kinda like when darth vader breathes.


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[redordead]

What the goal should be is to have the entire atty shrink/contract in the freezer for 20 minutes and then run hot tap water on just the chimney so that it expands faster than the base.
Maybe even be extreme and stick the chimney into boiling water for just a few seconds and then use a rag to try to unscrew it.


That should work. I've used that method for a handful of plumbing and automobile parts.

Yeah tried that this morning (again) and it wont budge. Its almost like its glued on. It was also extremely dirty on the bottom of the chimney cap and base where they meet. Kinda like it was already used.

I read erlkonigin's statement on the 22nd saying that they would be checking each unit with immediate affect...so i ordered on the 24th. Im sure ill receive a satisfactory response! Well...hope so! [emoji15]

 

[JeepR KReapR]

Oh oh ohhh right. Haha. Welp I guess it works. At least so far.

But now that I've said THAT, I know I've just jinxed myself

ETA: actually think having an angled shoulder might be better than vertically straight? Since top/roof of the chimney section is angled.


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That's the way I've been doing my builds & it's worked just fine. I don't think there would be an issue cutting at an angle, even if you cut it a little too sharp the height of the coil & swelling of the wick when wet relative to the chimney top would prevent leaks in most scenarios IMO.

Welcome to the queen's court kiwi!


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[vapdivrr]

Day two on an authentic Erlkonigin, and am very impressed with the capacity, flavor, and ease of refilling. Only complaint is the scratchy, LOUD airflow noise. Almost as bad as the Youde AGA-T7. Am running a 5/64 microcoil with KGD - pretty much my standard Kayfun build. Could there be something I've done that would cause this, or is significant airflow noise inherent to this model?

Yes overall the erlk has a louder tone then other attys but I have found that this noise can differ from build to build in the erlk. I haven't nailed down the specifics yet but I think different wicking amounts thru the coil has as direct affect to the sound. I am vaping the erlk and erlp side by side and one sounds a little crunchy while the other is no where near as loud. When I wicked the erlp I purposely added just enough rayon, I wanted the rayon to be just on the verge of not being enough, the results of this seems to be a much crunchier tone and at the same time, more juice collects in drip tip adapter. I would imagine if you did the opposite, and stuffed to much rayon in the coil, it would be alot less noisy albeit muted. Somewhere in the middle the erlk isn't as loud but still a little louder then a kayfun

 

[vapdivrr]

Thanks for your reply. Maybe "wet vape" is not the best way to describe it. The vape isn't bad, just don't find it as smooth as the kayfun. Definitely more flavour for sure! It seems as though there isn't quite enough air mixing in where the coil is. Do you think lifting the coil up higher would help? How high is too high? The wicking seems to be bang on. No flooding and no dry hits.

I think raising can help to a degree, if you have your current coil all the way down, like drill bit wedged in channel arms, it imo does slightly prevent proper air flow to the entire lenght of coil. I do raise the coil after mounting and have found between 1.2 to 1.6mm to be my sweet spot. Also I have felt what your talking about, you say wet vape and I think it's from insufficient cotton amounts in coil, or whimpy or flat shoulders.

 

[Newportlocal]

Day two on an authentic Erlkonigin, and am very impressed with the capacity, flavor, and ease of refilling. Only complaint is the scratchy, LOUD airflow noise. Almost as bad as the Youde AGA-T7. Am running a 5/64 microcoil with KGD - pretty much my standard Kayfun build. Could there be something I've done that would cause this, or is significant airflow noise inherent to this model?

Try a larger diameter coil with less wraps and thicker shoulders. Mine isn't loud. Don't have calipers to measure my handy mini screwdriver I wrap on. I am doing around 5 wraps of 28 gauge. My current ohms is 1.2-1.3. Takes a while to find your sweet spot on coil height too. See what you think.

 

[qorax]

Erlk Filling without AFC Ring? No Problem!

1. Where’s my coil positioned nowadays?


2. How I'm building nowadays?


3. AFC Ring removed:


4. Filling Commenced:

Note: Fill as soon as possible and close the top cap "lid" immediately.

5. Filling Completed:

Note that the base is completely dry, no juice overflow!

6. Tank Full:


BOTTOMLINE: If you keep your shoulders puffed up well and fill the tank at your fastest possible speed - it will not flood the chamber before you close the top cap lid and tighten the drip tip. Most leakages happen while filling, rarely during your vape time. Nail the build vs. filling process - and you can rest assured of a non-messy scenario even if you do not use the AFC while vaping. I am not using it ~ and there's no leaks!

 

[tchavei]

1.5mm from the air hole I would say

Regards
Tony

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[redordead]

Well i managed to get the .......ing thing open. Although there is some damage to the chimney and the drip tip doesnt screw down properly. Enough to fill it anyway.

I have tried two builds so far, both with a 2mm bit, 28awg and kgd. Vapor is excellant, and the nic hit is intense. Flavour has been non existent so far. Think ive been using to much cotton. Its been wicking fine though.

 

[vapdivrr]

1.5mm from the air hole I would say

Regards
Tony

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I guess it depends on where it's from. I estimate from the actual air hole, while some may measure from base. For me I set it exactly the same as I do in all my other tanks, which is more or less about 1.5mm from actual airhole.

 

[tchavei]

Well i managed to get the .......ing thing open. Although there is some damage to the chimney and the drip tip doesnt screw down properly. Enough to fill it anyway.

I have tried two builds so far, both with a 2mm bit, 28awg and kgd. Vapor is excellant, and the nic hit is intense. Flavour has been non existent so far. Think ive been using to much cotton. Its been wicking fine though.

Great!

I'm sure they will make it right anyway.

Lack of taste is a new one. I usually get that at the beginning after freshly washing an atty but once the water evaporates it's back.

Probably to much wicking (muted). Remember most build pics are from rayon which doesn't expand like cotton so you might not need as much as we do

Regards
Tony

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[vapdivrr]

Well i managed to get the .......ing thing open. Although there is some damage to the chimney and the drip tip doesnt screw down properly. Enough to fill it anyway.

I have tried two builds so far, both with a 2mm bit, 28awg and kgd. Vapor is excellant, and the nic hit is intense. Flavour has been non existent so far. Think ive been using to much cotton. Its been wicking fine though.

Bad flavor usually is, like you said, to much wicking material or coil to high. Usually when you do have to much wicking material, besides the muted flavor, there is also a taste of wicking material itself.

 

[redordead]

Bad flavor usually is, like you said, to much wicking material or coil to high. Usually when you do have to much wicking material, besides the muted flavor, there is also a taste of wicking material itself.

Yeah thats exactly what im getting a tatse of koh gen do lol!

The only thing that worries me is less cotton, not enough material for the shoulders...and then leaking!

*edit* tried less cotton, now getting dry hits. Ive had a few 'decent' hits, nice flavour, but also a few dry ones.

Its a bit difficult when im in the middle of packing for the move..."just popping downstairs love to check the weight of the bags!" [emoji1]

 

[Thejack1]

Finally back in business with the dna40


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[mykereid]

Ahhh, so that explains why there were none left when I dashed off to VapeRev to order one. Congratulations, dammit!

Congrats friend. I just snagged 2 more Flask40s yesterday myself. Going to have to get another Erlk or two now.

 

[vapdivrr]

Yeah thats exactly what im getting a tatse of koh gen do lol!

The only thing that worries me is less cotton, not enough material for the shoulders...and then leaking!

*edit* tried less cotton, now getting dry hits. Ive had a few 'decent' hits, nice flavour, but also a few dry ones.

Its a bit difficult when im in the middle of packing for the move..."just popping downstairs love to check the weight of the bags!" [emoji1]

It's definitely a balance but one thing you can try is once you find the optimal coil amount take an extra bit of cotton and wedge it underneath the wick. I usually wedge it between deck and underside of wick against the channel arm. This extra cotton lifts the shoulder a bit higher. Or you can try adding a bit on top of shoulders after your wick is done. A little tiny pad placed ontop can increase shoulder height without messing with amounts in coil