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The Erlkönigin : PICTORIAL

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Shrug, I consider those the vertical channels (with the horizontal channels being at the bottom), but yeah, I wouldn't go over the ledge. I don't cut it *right* after the coil :), but I usually cut it about 1/8" past the base where the chimney base/chamber is screwed in and direct all the wick to the edge of the ledge. For the RBAs with a 2-part chimney, I usually trim them to just be level with the opening of the chimney then direct all the cotton to the wick holes (to cover, but not 'plug' or 'stuff').

This still comes with the disclaimer that I don't have an erli yet (I actually went to place the order tonight, but they were out of the nano kits... which is a must have for me), but that approach has worked very well with kayfun 3.1/russian/orchid/fogger 4.4/aga/taifun/rbst/etc RBAs over the last couple months.
Don't have a 3.1 but a few lites and it's hard to believe that in the kayfun lites the juice level would come up that high. It seems that if the juice came as high as the coil, there would be a great chance that juice would get into the airhole.
 

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Made an OMG build! Vertical coil with Rayon in the Erlk. Vapor & Flavor Bomb :)
Pics are downloading (qty 77) ~ shall select, edit and post them soon.
Love the rayon in verts because of the fact it doesn't expand as much. I can get 2 complete wraps around a coil while not reducing airflow as much as cotton. So really it's more compact while wicking really good
 

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Don't have a 3.1 but a few lites and it's hard to believe that in the kayfun lites the juice level would come up that high. It seems that if the juice came as high as the coil, there would be a great chance that juice would get into the airhole.

I think there might be a slight disconnect; the coils are still higher than the juice level. I'll try to take a picture next time I re-wick (but I've seen others use basically the exact same technique), I think I might have a bit more wick than you're imagining. IIRC 'Cloud 50' on youtube wicks similarly and I think I've seen Todd do so as well. It also takes a good minute or two to mold the wicks so that I'm covering the channel opening (but not plugging it) when the chimney is screwed down.

It's basically the same as a lot of the erli builds I've seen in this thread, but I just don't bother with the very thin strand running down the vertical channel... and I don't thin/taper the ends of the wicks (but I may end up doing so on the erli). The wick ends are still directed to where the channels [flow] end though.

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I think there might be a slight disconnect; the coils are still higher than the juice level. I'll try to take a picture next time I re-wick (but I've seen others use basically the exact same technique), I think I might have a bit more wick than you're imagining. IIRC 'Cloud 50' on youtube wicks similarly and I think I've seen Todd do so as well. It also takes a good minute or two to mold the wicks so that I'm covering the channel opening (but not plugging it) when the chimney is screwed down.

It's basically the same as a lot of the erli builds I've seen in this thread, but I just don't bother with the very thin strand running down the vertical channel... and I don't thin/taper the ends of the wicks (but I may end up doing so on the erli). The wick ends are still directed to where the channels [flow] end though.

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I got what your saying now and if it's like the cloud video then the wick tails look like they are pushed down and possibly touching the lower deck but it's hard to tell. I have only seen wick tails in the kayfun touching lower deck so when you said something different I was curious. Like you mentioned about the erlks wicking, yes there is a tiny tail going down which actually comes in contact with the juice in the tank even when no vaping is being done. This is also the same in the aqua. Now in the kayfun, in order for the wick tails to be in constant contact with the juice you would have to place tails down past lower deck and into those little vertical slots and that I never seen anyone do. So initially I had thought you did this and I was curious , but you said you didn't do that so I'm just curious as to the difference of what you did before and this new method? Sorry for the misunderstanding but I have 4 kayfuns and when I hear of something new I am curious
 

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PROTOTYPE

It will make it a 22mm atty from head to toe, with see thru windows.
Oooooh, I LIKE that!
 

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Well, just pulled the trigger on an order w/ intaste.de. I actually tried through shop.erlkoenigin.com first, but the credit card processing wasn't working and was returning some generic error (FYI for anyone who has a contact over there). intaste.de was cheaper on the shipping, but it means no glass tank (but I did grab the 22mm one :toast:)... I figure I can grab the glass tank when I get the nano tank, assuming this thing lives up to the hype :).

EDIT: Looks like the credit card issue was on my side... the original order attempt triggered a fraud alert (...but then they let the intaste.de payment went through like 5 min later, so /shrug).
 
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Well, just pulled the trigger on an order w/ intaste.de. I actually tried through shop.erlkoenigin.com first, but the credit card processing wasn't working and was returning some generic error (FYI for anyone who has a contact over there). intaste.de was cheaper on the shipping, but it means no glass tank (but I did grab the 22mm one :toast:)... I figure I can grab the glass tank when I get the nano tank, assuming this thing lives up to the hype :).

EDIT: Looks like the credit card issue was on my side... the original order attempt triggered a fraud alert (...but then they let the intaste.de payment went through like 5 min later, so /shrug).

http://www.intaste.de/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=Erlkonigin
Not sure if link will take you right to page. If not type erlkonigin into the search engine and all the erlkonigin stuff will come up. Glass tank 19.90 euro at intaste.de.
You can buy erlkonigin glass tanks custom done at IBTanked as well.
http://www.ibtanked.com/other-tank-tubes/pbproduct/erlkoenigin
You will enjoy the 22mm tank. I really like mine.
Btw the Erlkonigin site was tricky for me too. I bought my tank at intaste.de myself.
A little frustrating missing out on a Nano as a result.
 
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Erlkönigin Vertical Coil with Rayon
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Step-1: The coil
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Step-2: Check resistance and Test
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Step-3: Insert the Wick
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Note: Pass the pointed end from 'under' the top leg of the coil

Step-4: Rayon 'around' the coil
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Note: The pointed end goes into the juice channel of that side ~ and the bushy end gets looped around the coil

Step-5: Trim tails and Split their ends
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Step-6: Inspect and Channel the tails
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Step-7: Saturate the setup
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Step-8: Vapor Test
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BOTTOMLINE: OMG, the flavor! The fact that the wick is 'around' the coil and not 'inside' it - gives the aroma & taste of the juice a free flow airway to the mouth. Ditto the vapour! That's the noteworthy benefit of this build. The amount of wicking material is also near double with this build than what we'd usually do when placing the wick inside the coil. Thus the system always remains well saturated. I have nearly chain-vaped this setup since yesterday ~ and the wicking has efficiently kept up its pace. There's 70/30 (PG/VG) fruity-sweety-creamy-tangy juice inside, which is one of ADVs, but had never tasted so well before! This is a mouthful of goodness here fellas!
 

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Can't wait to see that! It would be sweet if it's design was something like the "big dripper". I think that top fed system is the next evolution in rta's

While I love the Big Dripper, they'll never replace the convenience of a closed tank system. Frak, you have to remember to keep the air holes to the side or hot juice will run down you hand, and if you lay it down before finishing of the drip session, has this beechy attitude and leave a wet spot. Now say you have the air vents pointed towards your hand, you give it a prime or two raise to you mouth take a vape, Hot damn, we got a blow by flow by:D Yeah, and juice vaped at 0.25, well yeah, just 0.5 ohms per coil, but still the vapor point of liquid remains the same given a constant atmospheric pressure. (frak me, spelled that atmo word right, first time:lol:) Anywho, you get the idea, it's still a dripper with all the extra care needed, cept the bottle.. or something like that:D

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Since I switched to cellucotton/rayon/japanese cotton, I've stopped putting anything in the channels of my 'kayfun' style RBAs. I don't have an Erli yet, but I'll probably give-in/break-down here pretty soon... If/when I do have one in my possession, I'm planning on just running the wicks to the shoulders and lightly packing them down there. I haven't had a single leak/dry hit since I started wicking that way in other devices (and it's held up to 40+ watts- at which point airflow, not wicking, was my bottleneck).
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surprised, glad though but surprised that works for ya, usually fiber down the juice channels clogs or causes mass flooding, depending on fiber used. but think you've take the kay out of fun, or something like that.

As long as the tank is 'all metal' and I can't "see" my juice - it is not for me :(

But the concept of the Big Dripper is nice. It's way better than Dimi's 3D and the other Chinese one (what was it called - Rocket?). However, the GEM by MarkBugs is a different ballgame ~ looks sweet and performs astoundingly. Very similar to our Erlks!

Yeah, see, I don't really understand the whole see the juice thing. Kind of laughing at the broken tank thing, All my SS tanks, well they don't break, or crack from me cinnamon blend. Never has it broke, none of my tanks break, they are built like tanks.:D

Estia is the beastliest tri-coil designed tank system I've ever vaped :)

One look is all it took, and didn't even need to look at your thread first. My coils are wrapped, Estia's in route, have note's on all the entrance doors, with authorization and a phone number, hopeful I'll wake with her at the side door.....

Made an OMG build! Vertical coil with Rayon in the Erlk. Vapor & Flavor Bomb :)
Pics are downloading (qty 77) ~ shall select, edit and post them soon.

Well, while I was wrapping coils for Estia, did one for Erli too, yeah, it's the eV-twin, Erli getis the iV-twin treatment, and it is gooood.!!!!


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used one long continuous very thin piece of ramie. passing it through the middle, and wrapping both tails clockwise around the coils.

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I just kept wrapping until was out of fiber. I wetted the ramie with juice first forming it into the width of the coil sides, so basically there are 3 full layers of ramie ribbon around the coil.

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then just run the tails down the wick channels.

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I cut the tails off flush with the bottom of the chimney when screwed down without the flutter ring. Couldn't find it:D

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Sorry, out of focus, but you get the idea. Put it on Torched Dragon # 170, the flame treatment came out copper in color on the dragon etching and the bluing on the SS is almost Indigo in color, so will be my Warrior apv, which has indigo paint job on the fenders and a plasma blue tribal flame tank. Um, that's a motorcycle I'm talking about. Crap, what forum am I on any who??? hmm better say something about the cr-z too,, hmm, yeah, vaped this while driving my CR-Z today, Hybrid vaping and hybrid cruising, Erli does the double hybrid blues, or something like that. Wheww


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Used 26 gauge on this build, was a bit higher than I like, 0.8 ohms but the vape is outstanding, just through it on the 30, and she's doing fine there, once max gets back will drive her at 6 volts, unless the raptor shows up first, then 100 here we come.


For further details see the iV-twin build
 

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dice. you sir are a madcap!

"hybrid touring".. lmao

get to da choppas!!

incidentally. been to Mt Vernon. was stationed at Sub base Bangor - USS Florida SSBN 768 .. FTG ( fire control tech - defensive weaps guy ) that was early 80's. Ive lived in Puyallup, Federal Way, Olympia as well. Old man lives in University Place now. need to head out there soon.. hes fading. old marines just fade like that.
 
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Yeah, find that being a bit crazy, and finding humor in my own flaws helps get me through the rough spots. Just because you're in a straight jacket doesn't mean you are paranoid, turns out someone was out to get me. :lol:

Been Washington bound most of my like, born and raised in Spokane. Did live up in Sitka Alaska for 9 years as a Chef, moved back in '96. Next time you are in this neck of the woods, stop by the casino, will teach ya how to lose money intelligently, :lol: or something like that, just ask for the Vape fanatic dealer.. :D:vapor: Work at the one on Bow Hill.

No chopper, its a Power V-twin Cruiser. does have a slight rake, but it's more of a twisty hunter, power slugger, tire burner hot rod kind of bike. :D
 
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Yeah, find that being a bit crazy, and finding humor in my own flaws helps get me through the rough spots. Just because you're in a straight jacket doesn't mean you are paranoid, turns out someone was out to get me. :lol:

Been Washington bound most of my like, born and raised in Spokane.
Did live up in Sitka Alaska for 9 years as a Chef, moved back in '96. Next time you are in this neck of the woods, stop by the casino, will teach ya how to lose money intelligently, :lol: or something like that, just ask for the Vape fanatic dealer.. :D:vapor: Work at the one on Bow Hill.

No chopper, its a Power V-twin Cruiser. does have a slight rake, but it's more of a twisty hunter, power slugger, tire burner hot rod kind of bike.
:D

Ah Sitka! The name always conjures up memories of that lovely Sandra Bullock movie for me :)
 

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Yeah, she is a fun gal, loved it when they were shooting the Star Trek film there too!!!

Have to laugh though, used to live out on one of the small surrounding islands, and commuted by Zodiac packing a 10 mm ss smith and Wesson, and wearing a mustang float suit. When the cruiss ships would come down the channel, I'd circle the boat, fire a few rounds in the air and Scream Ye Haa, welcome to Sitka.!!! and the jet off.

One time pulled in to the public docks, and all the terrorists were laughing at me, making fun and pointing, rude normal tourist type, took off the float suit and they see I'm packing, all of a sudden, instant respect, hey can I help you, let me hold your line. Are you a native?? Hell no, I'm a White boy, a bit crazy, but white.!! Why, do I look Tlingit or Eskimo to you?? Ohh carefull with that, it's deadly, yeah, easy does it now:D

Yeah, when Island living and island hopping, one must pack a gun, or become a bears easy lunch. And anyting smaller than a 10 mm would just piss one off. :D So packing side arms is quite common, but must be checked at the door when entering a bar. Plus more than once a nice black tail has been waiting at my cabin upon returning, heck who knew they delivered on long island:D
 

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Guys, I have kind of an OT question: Could you recommend me an affordable Box Mod with 30-50 Watts and exchangeable 18650 batteries for my Erli's? I don't have one yet and started to research a bit. So far, in our German speaking forum, as well as here at ECF, quite a few vapers seem to have issues with the chinese clones. Only the ones with a YiHi SX330 or the new SX350 board have less or even no flaws. So, what to buy? Can you point me in a direction?
Many thx in advance,
C H
 

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Guys, I have kind of an OT question: Could you recommend me an affordable Box Mod with 30-50 Watts and exchangeable 18650 batteries for my Erli's? I don't have one yet and started to research a bit. So far, in our German speaking forum, as well as here at ECF, quite a few vapers seem to have issues with the chinese clones. Only the ones with a YiHi SX330 or the new SX350 board have less or even no flaws. So, what to buy? Can you point me in a direction?
Many thx in advance,
C H

If it has to be a regulated mod - I'd always go for the reliability and consistency. Thus, no Chinese (no offence). And if it has to be a box mod - then what can be better than the VaporShark DNAs?

I love how skinny they are - and there is no competition to it in it's form & format. For replaceable 18650 - I'd go for the rDNA. Else, I love my VS-DNA30.
 
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