The error here is by the manufaturers and retailors.

[1kshooter]

...I am pretty new to this but when people ask hey what the heck is that..I tell them it is the end to a 23 year addiction to ciggeretts and a healthy way out for me!.....that most often gets them listiening to me ...even if they don't smoke they have close friends or loved ones that do!
Jonathan

 

[1kshooter]

oh I got it!.....it is a means to get from point (a) to point(b) ....I could walk from point (a)-(b) and get some exersize and enjoy myself and not hurt anyone including bystanders and myself!.....or with ciggeretts I could load my .... in a cannon point towards (b) from the launch site of point (a) .....most of me will get there...and if all goes well I won't hurt anyone else other then me on my way there....but there are no ways to be sure!!

yup I like it!....when people used to blast me about smoking and say ..don't you know second hand smoke kills?...I would just nod and say yup I have heard that but it's unreliable ...your still here arnt ya!!! lol

 

[Turnip]

I just call mine a vaporiser these days.
, if i say ecig all they will hear is the cig part,
Then the next question s usually "but thats smoke" and I say no its just glycerine vapour, this little thing here heats it up.ect yada yada..
as they arent cigarettes,better if people just saw them as vaporisers. Seeing as how the public have been educated to go screaming nutso at the mention of the word "cigarette"or "smoke" ect

 

[pman5kmo]

Companies with names like "Smoke every/anywhere" and calling them ecigs was the industry shooting itself in the foot. Sure it helps get the attention of smokers.... however it also gets the negative attention. It is that same negative attention which has lead to places banning them or their use indoors, etc. It is the whole ecig and smoke everywhere campaign which has the nanny staters wanting to regulate under the FDA tobacco regs.

The flaunting use in public places with smoking bans, etc. In place is just another angle some users give those who do not understand the concept and want to ban/regulate them.

I never use mine inside buildings where smoking is not permitted. It just calls negative attention... at a time when we cannot afford it at all lest we see more regs, bans, taxes, etc. The govt is hooked on taxes more than a smoker on cigs who is also a ...... junkie....

 

[Soundhunter]

I was in the SFO airport a couple of days ago and had a bit of a layover until my flight home - was sitting in a bar with one of my reps watching game 1 of the series - My rep dips and got a cup - I asked the bartender if it was possibe for me to use my e-cig in the bar. He said "what is a e-cig?".. I pulled out my provari mini with the tank on it and showed him - he says "Oh.. you mean a vaporizer.. sure go for it"... interesting reponse I thought..

 

[MightyWhighty]

Blah, I'm guilty of saying e-cig to building managers. A while back at work, the smoking section of the parking garage was being used for a pot luck, so I vaped on one of the other levels (where smoking is not permitted). One of the building manager people said if I wanted to smoke to go to blah blah 500 feet away from my work. I started by saying, "its just a vaporizer, I'm not violating any building codes or anything."

He was confused so I just said "It's LIKE and electronic-cigarette." So I'm taking baby steps with the transition by differentiated my PV from e-cigs.

The man ended up just congratulating me for quitting smoking. When my ... is on the line at work, I don't want to get into a heated debate with management over what I'm doing (they'll just dismiss the idea all together as is their right). So if calling it as a similar device to e-cigs helps me from being hassled that tends to be my go-to phrase.

If its in casual conversation with another person where I don't care if I get crap for it by a store clerk, I'll just insist on calling it a vaporizer.

To go on topic with retailers screwing things up with marketing, I don't completely agree with that. I live in the San Francisco (bay area) of California where vaporizing is associated with vaping 'the green stuff'. Vaping / smoking the green stuff in public is very common here, I come across them several of them every day. So, for me, its a lot better to be associated with vaping e-cigs than it is vaping in general. It's gotten worse with the 'green stuff shops' selling cartos with 'green stuff' juice.

Hope that makes sense, I'm pretty sure we're not suppose to be talking about certain substances on this forum so it won't show up on google so use your imagination on what green stuff refers to.

 

[Los Marauder]

Well, one things for sure, we will have to re name this web site if the vape world decides to change vocab lables. I know for certain that without the term electronic cigarette I never would have known what the hell these were, or been able to research them for countless hours, and find our wonderfull ECF and all its great members. I am cigar free, and happily vaping Echo's for about 2 years now, so I kinda have grown attatched to the term electronic cigarette. We used to drive "auto mobiles" now we drive "cars" Maybe we will come to a time when we used to vape e cigs but now pv's.

 

[MightyWhighty]

Haha good point, this form is labeled as e-cigarette. Good job on getting away from cigars. I'm at the 2 year mark as well.

 

[StormFinch]

Vaporizers were already in existence. They use a different ingredient. (wink, wink, nudge nudge)

We fought long and hard to keep them from being called a medical device because as such, the FDA had total control and was going to block them from being sold at all.

The ANTZ are going to call them e-cigarettes no matter what we try to call them, and they will continue to bad mouth them as such. By calling them the same thing and showing the public that they aren't the satanic product the ANTZ make them out to be, we're taking away their ammunition. The ANTZ wouldn't care if they were called water pens, they still threaten their business. Without hundreds of thousands of people on the cigarette/NRT roller coaster, they no longer make money.

This subject has come up regularly since there have been people on this forum, as demonstrated by the OP date. The horses have left the barn, shutting the door isn't going to help now.

 

[MightyWhighty]

That was the point of my post, here in California, vaporizers are known for that DIFFERENT ingredient quite often. They sell them in stores around my house for christ sake, preloaded.

 

[StormFinch]

Yep, not pointed at you Mighty, just a general "Elvis has left the building" post. Know you deal with a lot of green, growing things out that way.

 

[k3vin]

Some good replys, I say it is an electronic cigarette and when they ask when am I going to quit that I say I smoked for 35 years my dr says my lungs sound great now, and I am in no hurry to quit vaping..

I also tell them it is like having a nicotine patch but being able to push it and get a dose if nic..

If they ask me " when are you going to quit smoking that" I say I have quit smoking, I smoked for 35 years.etc.. Etc..

I don't think I have ever had a negative response,here in oklahoma anyway..

 

[MightyWhighty]

Some good replys, I say it is an electronic cigarette and when they ask when am I going to quit that I say I smoked for 35 years my dr says my lungs sound great now, and I am in no hurry to quit vaping..

I also tell them it is like having a nicotine patch but being able to push it and get a dose if nic..

If they ask me " when are you going to quit smoking that" I say I have quit smoking, I smoked for 35 years.etc.. Etc..

I don't think I have ever had a negative response,here in oklahoma anyway..

I had a weird interaction with a group of .....es at a bar. They were smoking on the patio talking about e-cigs it was at that time I coincidental started vaping. They were talking about how stupid they were. It was at that time I budded into the conversation and said

"How are they stupid? I was able to quit chain smoking 4 years ago overnight."

.....es: "BUT YOU'RE STILL SMOKING!!"

"I'm not really sure you know what what vapor is..."


Anyways, I didn't really stick around in that conversation since I had some more drinking to do, but the moral of the story is: I'm pretty sure to ignorant people that the name "electronic cigarettes" is misleading them into thinking we're just electronically igniting tobacco.

 

[sonicdsl]

Ignorant people are ignorant.

 

[Koman]

Ignorant people are ignorant.

True that man!

 

[Petrodus]

.....es: "BUT YOU'RE STILL SMOKING!!"

When I encounter close minded ignorant people popping off
with something like this ...

I smile and say
"Don't feel bad ... There's a lot of people who believe that Urban Myth" !!!

They "Drop Jaws" and are temporarily speechless...
At that point I just smile again and walk away.
TICKS THEM OFF !!

 

[vaprpunk1987]

yeah i tell people its an ecigarette just because that is the most common name and most of the time i dont feel like having a 20 minute discussion on how its a PV.

the most common answer: "oh thats great. how long has it been since you last smoked? how much did you spend on that thing? do they really work?"

second most common: "oh one of those fake cigarettes... they dont work..." and my answer to that is "if they dont work can you explain how i was a pack a day smoker from the time i was 15 but the last cigarette i smoked was on the day i got my first battery while it was charging?" 9 out of 10 times they just shrug and the other one time they just continue thinking they dont work. you cant win them all.

most every smoker wants to quit and i think alot of them think PVs are just too good to be true. i cant blame them cause i thought the same thing until i got mine in the mail. i also dont think it helps that at least where i live 99% of the stores that sell PV products are head shops. "so you have to buy ur ecig stuff at the .... store? sounds kinda sketchy..." me: "it does.. but its not!"

i think i will start telling people i went to the future, and in the future this has replaced cigarettes lol.

 

[Petrodus]

yeah i tell people its an ecigarette just because that is the most common name and most of the time i dont feel like having a 20 minute discussion on how its a PV.

the most common answer: "oh thats great. how long has it been since you last smoked? how much did you spend on that thing? do they really work?"

second most common: "oh one of those fake cigarettes... they don't work..." and my answer to that is "if they don't work can you explain how i was a pack a day smoker from the time i was 15 but the last cigarette i smoked was on the day i got my first battery while it was charging?" 9 out of 10 times they just shrug and the other one time they just continue thinking they don't work. you cant win them all.

most every smoker wants to quit and i think a lot of them think PVs are just too good to be true. i cant blame them cause i thought the same thing until i got mine in the mail. i also don't think it helps that at least where i live 99% of the stores that sell PV products are head shops. "so you have to buy ur ecig stuff at the .... store? sounds kinda sketchy..." me: "it does.. but its not!"

i think i will start telling people i went to the future, and in the future this has replaced cigarettes lol.

Humor is one of the very best components in any discussion
when talking to someone who smokes or interested non-smokers.

That line about going into the future ...
Great opening line !! Gets attention and takes the fight out of those
who would normally want to argue or ridicule.

 

[MF DOOM]

Just tell them what it is.
Just be like, "you never seen a battery before"?
That's all it is man...

 

[budynbuick]

However, they have a habit of making anything mean anything they want as long as it suits their purpose don't they.

Yes. It is called 'selective application'. Under this new meaningrug;Noun
A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body. See, everything is now a drug when they want it to be. Its actually pretty brilliant but it does take a great deal of ignorance on our part. Which we supply abundantly.