The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

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CMD-Ky

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Understood, but they are supposed to have a basic knowledge of biology and organic chemistry, and the difference between oils and alcohols is freshman level stuff if one is planning to go to medical school. Heck, I learned it it high school!

One would think that to be true but..., well, perhaps, his emotions overrode his otherwise towering intellect. There is a lot of going around these days. I am not sure that I would want him treating me.
 

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Medical doctors are not scientists, they follow and teach cookbooks and "best practices". That is my not so humble opinion.

Faculty of medical schools are frequently MDs who conduct basic and clinical research. Some of the top biochemists, cell biologists, pharmacologists, happen to hold MDs, and some in addition hold PhDs. MDs have certianly won their share of Nobel prizes, and not just in medicine but in areas like chemistry as well. You can't conduct clinical or medical research of any significance and reliability without being an excellent scientsit. Judging by degree alone is not a basis of determining competency in science. I've seen plenty of faculty in graduate schools in biology and chemistry who are more administrators and never completed any research that was of any significance whatsoever. Let's remember PHE is made up of many MDs and we accept their words as scientists. However, there's more to it so please bear with the multiparts to this post.

"I think there's no evidence from looking at the cancer biomarkers, that it could be as high as 98% or 99% for cancer."

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEEY-1QT3P3yJofQAuix3H1YqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowyNj6CjDyiPICMJyFxQU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

It's a very good article, and there's no point taking specific quotes out to make this point. But @CMD-Ky it does bear on your point above.

As an aside, when the NYS Public Board of whatever voted to support Cuomo this week, one of it's members, Glenn Martin, MD of Mt. Sinai/Icahn School of Medicine here in NY flat out voted no as "this was not in any way a public health emergency" . Sinai is a pretty decent medical school, research, and medical center, and he holds a nice senior faulty position.

The folks in the CBS story were out of NYU Medical Center and School of Medicine as well as the school of public health policy. It is generally rated as a top tier medical school and medical center in the US. It conducts research with a budget in excess of $350 Million dollars a year (well, 2017, don't have anything newer).

Now, nothing against the folks in W. Virginia, but it's not exactly a top tier medical school known for outstanding research and faculty. We need to remember a degree alone is not indicative of skill or knowledge. I'ts like the old joke, "What do you call the person who graduated last in their medical school class at the lowest rated medical school in the country? Doctor". Certainly this individual referring to PG and VG a petroleum products kinda proves the point.

Affiliations with institutions are important when weighing an opinion or theory offered. Opinion shopping has and is a popular activity by both the press, as there's always someone out there you can quote for a more "balanced and objective story", as well as attorneys in tort cases. You can always find someone with a degree who will testify in support of your client and rebut the opinion of the expert of the opposing party's.

And the anti guy, West Virginia University School of Medicine associate professor Mark Olfert, is incompetent.

"It's something in the base solution," he said. "The base solution is made up of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin. These are oils. Petroleum."

How the heck is this guy any kind of professor at a school of Medicine without the most basic knowledge of organic chemistry? PG and VG are not oils, they are sugar alcohols! Moreover, VG is not made from petroleum.

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"What do you call the person who graduated last in their medical school class at the lowest rated medical school in the country? Doctor"

What do you call the person who graduated at the bottom of his law school class? "Your Honor". :lol::lol:
 

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What do you call the person who graduated at the bottom of his law school class? "Your Honor". :lol::lol:

Now, now, there are some decent judges out there. Somewhere. It's why waiting to see which judge your case ends up assigned to is like hanging out at a casino. ;)
 

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These things are not permitted by your customs

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I have shipped alcohol, cereal, tobacco, meat products, photographic products, wool, wheat products, coffee and tea to USA, have never been stopped/seized

It's lucky that filters aren't on the list or FT would go out of business.
 

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"As soon as I hit the hospital, and they found out it was due to vaping, about 10 people stopped."
This comment right here makes me sad, it was not due to vaping he became ill, and now his friends are giving up vaping as well.

Hopefully his friends were vaping the same stuff as him, and that's what they quit doing. Most of the general public would get the wrong message though.
 

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So I need some help with coils. I apologize in advance if this doesn't make a lot of sense. Can anyone give me an idea on what commercially available coil is used in a variety of different e-cigarettes? I'm trying to purchase some cheap all-in-one style e-cigarettes along with some higher-quality internal battery mod devices as the cheap joyetech AIO box that I use tends to break in the port area rather than have the battery run out of charges you can't charge it without wiggling it and holding it in weird positions and all of those type of things that you would usually do with a cell phone. I want to get a higher quality all-in-one that is less likely to have the port break I also have an external battery mod on the way and then I want to get a few cheaper all in one internal battery regular devices. Are there any kinds that share the same coils? I would love to be able to use the same coils for a couple different devices. Also if I just want to extend the life of my coil is there a way to rewick it where I wouldn't have to know everything there is to know about building a coil like can I take the coil apart the commercially available coil and put new cotton in it? If that's possible is it only possible with some coils and not others? It would be great to have a list of a variety of different e-cigarettes that all operate off a single coil. I hope that this made some sense and I hope that I posted this in the right place I apologised if I didn't. Genuinely not knowledgeable about all this and I just want to keep myself from going back to smoking I've been vaping for almost 3 years and I've seen my health return.
Youtube and google are your friends here. This used to be an easy answer but now with so many products on the market it has become difficult to keep up. Start with sticking to the same brand of AIO devices, many times Aspire will have several devices compatible with the same coil, Innokin and Joyetech as well. Fasttech will probably have a coil compatible list in their forums, their forums are great tools for these kind of questions. Personally I would consider investing in external battery devices and rtas for the long term; building/wicking is much easier than it looks. @FranC knows more about rewicking drop in coil, maybe she can suggest a tank or two.
 

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Judging by degree alone is not a basis of determining competency

We need to remember a degree alone is not indicative of skill or knowledge.

WHAT He Said ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Affiliations with institutions are important when weighing an opinion or theory offered.


Well - While in general I would agree, not all the time - IMHO - really depends on the institution someone is referencing and what either of them think they will get out of the information shared, especially when coming to statistics . . .

"Statistics can be made to prove anything - even the truth." (Author Unknown)
(But sometimes not - even the truth - usually only to prove their point of view)


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Above commentary is from a "Jack-of-all-trades and master of none" (worked mainly in the service professions since 14 yo), that only had "Street" education/degree & 5 State License), until going to college at 40 and got 2 degrees - 1 Graduate - in 4 years . . . :facepalm:

Just Sayin' . . . :2c:
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So I need some help with coils. I apologize in advance if this doesn't make a lot of sense. Can anyone give me an idea on what commercially available coil is used in a variety of different e-cigarettes? I'm trying to purchase some cheap all-in-one style e-cigarettes along with some higher-quality internal battery mod devices as the cheap joyetech AIO box that I use tends to break in the port area rather than have the battery run out of charges you can't charge it without wiggling it and holding it in weird positions and all of those type of things that you would usually do with a cell phone. I want to get a higher quality all-in-one that is less likely to have the port break I also have an external battery mod on the way and then I want to get a few cheaper all in one internal battery regular devices. Are there any kinds that share the same coils? I would love to be able to use the same coils for a couple different devices. Also if I just want to extend the life of my coil is there a way to rewick it where I wouldn't have to know everything there is to know about building a coil like can I take the coil apart the commercially available coil and put new cotton in it? If that's possible is it only possible with some coils and not others? It would be great to have a list of a variety of different e-cigarettes that all operate off a single coil. I hope that this made some sense and I hope that I posted this in the right place I apologised if I didn't. Genuinely not knowledgeable about all this and I just want to keep myself from going back to smoking I've been vaping for almost 3 years and I've seen my health return.

You can purchase an RTA, which stands for rebuildable tank atomizer (I take it your a low wattage mouth to lung vaper?) and get premade SS coils that you simply put on your RTA and wick..

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^^^ you will want to choose the SS316l 1.03 ohm Superfine MTL fused Clapton coil ... it's 11.95 at that link which I believe that's a 10-pack of coils..

You will need an ohms reader to make sure you've mounted the coil properly, but it's quite simple to learn and lots of videos to show you how..

Then you will just need a couple external battery mods, there are a few you can choose from.. :)
 

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You can purchase an RTA, which stands for rebuildable tank atomizer (I take it your a low wattage mouth to lung vaper?) and get premade SS coils that you simply put on your RTA and wick..

You are being redirected...

^^^ you will want to choose the SS316l 1.03 ohm Superfine MTL fused Clapton coil ... it's 11.95 at that link which I believe that's a 10-pack of coils..

You will need an ohms reader to make sure you've mounted the coil properly, but it's quite simple to learn and lots of videos to show you how..

Then you will just need a couple external battery mods, there are a few you can choose from.. :)
Read External battery mod as a mod with a battery you can replace rather than one you throw out when it no longer holds a charge.
 

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Youtube and google are your friends here. This used to be an easy answer but now with so many products on the market it has become difficult to keep up. Start with sticking to the same brand of AIO devices, many times Aspire will have several devices compatible with the same coil, Innokin and Joyetech as well. Fasttech will probably have a coil compatible list in their forums, their forums are great tools for these kind of questions. Personally I would consider investing in external battery devices and rtas for the long term; building/wicking is much easier than it looks. @FranC knows more about rewicking drop in coil, maybe she can suggest a tank or two.

I've seen a table of compatibility between coils and tanks. It was either on ECF somewhere or someone posted a link. Sorry I don't know where it is but maybe someone will remember.
 

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I've seen a table of compatibility between coils and tanks. It was either on ECF somewhere or someone posted a link. Sorry I don't know where it is but maybe someone will remember.
If you just google coil compatibility there are a few hits, you just have to pay attention to the dates (many are older). FT is one of the best sources for this type of up to date info but sometimes you have to wade around a bit with wording to find it.
 

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I've seen a table of compatibility between coils and tanks. It was either on ECF somewhere or someone posted a link. Sorry I don't know where it is but maybe someone will remember.

FYI: Found this list here after Google-ing the phase "table of compatibility between coils and tanks" - it was posted on Reddit:



Hope the Information is what Ya' looking for & Helpful . . . . ;)


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No one has said that ecigs are 100% safe. The chief quote from certain medical people is that they are 95% safer than smoking.

PG is in a lot of products we eat or rub on our skin.

Propylene Glycol in Food: Is This Additive Safe?

Propylene glycol food list

Propylene glycol is commonly found in many packaged foods, such as drink mixes, dressings, dried soups, cake mix, soft drinks, popcorn, food coloring, fast foods, bread and dairy products ( 6 ). It is also used in injectable medications, like lorazepam, and in some creams and ointments that are applied to the skin,...
 

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I've purchased a polar by vaporesso I dont suppose that's usable with any rtas... do you need a certain external battery mod to go with the rtas?
I can think of no reason why you wouldn't be able to use that mod with an RTA.
 

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Then you will just need a couple external battery mods, there are a few you can choose from.. :)

I've purchased a polar by vaporesso I dont suppose that's usable with any rtas... do you need a certain external battery mod to go with the rtas?[/QUOTE]
No, any mod that can handle the build and has a 510 connection will work with any rta. Your polar will be fine to use. Keep in mind any device regardless of type will have a shelf life. I figure mine for 2 years but most will last much longer.
 
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