The final countdown to August 8th - your FDA comments NEEDED

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DeadElvis

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I am a 45 year old male living in Fairview, Tennessee. I started smoking at 15 years old and smoked for about 15 years. I had attempted to quit smoking using nicotine replacement devices such as and nicotine gum and the patch. I managed to quit for about a year when I was 30 but picked up the habit of smoking cigars which I smoked fairly regularly for another 15 years.

I was introduced to electric cigarettes via advertising and purchased the Blu cig-alike type product. It wasn’t until I was introduced to a higher quality vaping device at a local vaper shop that I was able to put the cigars down for good on 1/1/2014. I immediately started using the non-tobacco e-juices preferring the fruit and candy type flavors which I continue to use to this day.

Since replacing the cigar with a vaping device (innokin MVP2 + Kayfun Lite Plus atomizer) I have noticed significant improvements in my health. I no longer wake up coughing and no longer get out of breath as easily as before I quit smoking tobacco products. Motivated by this improvement I have started an exercise regime where I get up early and walk 1.5 miles on the treadmill before getting ready for work and my wife joins me for a 2 mile hike through a local nature park every afternoon. I truly feel that this important change in my life and heath would not be possible had I not given up the cigars and started vaping at the first of this year. Also, since starting to vape I have lowered the nicotine level of my ejuice from 18mg to 12mg in addition to losing 25 pounds of unnecessary weight.

I would urge the FDA not to place excessive restrictions on the type of e-smoking devices available and type and flavors of ejuice used in vaping as it would severely disrupt what I truly believe has been a positive change in my life.
 

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Not as long as others but I think they 'll get the gist. ID: FDA-2014-N-0189-20870

For once in my life, I have been able to quit smoking through the use of a vaporizer. I have tried numerous products and methods to quit but I always fell short of my goal until I tried a personal vaporizer. This has been and continues to be a godsend! I finally feel I got my life back since I quit smoking and started vaping 2 years ago. The benefits could be felt right away and continued to get better with each passing day. I used to suffer from insomnia, heavy breathing and chronic bronchitis. After a few months into vaping, all of those problems went away. In fact, I have never been healthier. My doctor also confirms this.

It turned out that I actually do not like the tobacco flavoring as it reminds me of smoking (the very thing I was trying to get away from). If it wasn't for the assortment of flavors that can be found, I probably would have turned back to smoking. That is why I am shocked that the FDA is considering regulating flavors. Why would you want people who quit smoking to vape something that is similar to what they were trying to get away from?

After reading the proposed rule changes, it is apparent that only the big corporate businesses would survive the fees and regulations being imposed; The same corporate entities that almost ruined my life! The current state of these regulations is unacceptable and makes me question the motive behind these regulations. It wasn't companies like Philip Morris Inc., R. J. Reynolds or Lorillard that help me get off the cancer sticks; It was a local shop that put time and effort in creating wonderful flavors and genuinely cared for their customers.

While some regulation is needed to keep it out of the hands of children and maintain quality, I ask the FDA to reconsider most of the expensive regulations found here. I ask not only for myself but on behalf of my family and extended family that have also switched to vaping and have also reaped its harm reduction benefits.
 
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Here's what I submitted:

I was a pack a day smoker for the better part of 20 years. I am now 35, and have noticed that smoking made me severely unhealthy. I would get out of breath very easily, and bronchitis was a common ailment for me. I have tried to quit numerous times, using several different smoking cessation methods (Chantix, Wellbutrin, Nicotine gum, patch, etc). None of them worked, as I kept going back to the thing that would ultimately, in the end, kill me.

It wasn’t until I found vaping that I really knew I had a shot at quitting. The vapor has none of the harmful tar & carcinogens that cigarette smoke has, and the flavors that are available really make the process enjoyable. I feel that vaping has drastically improved my quality of life. I am no longer chronically out of breath, and I haven’t suffered from Bronchitis once in the 2 years I’ve been vaping. I now ride a bike to/from work every day, and am able to jog/run without coughing & wheezing constantly.

I would strongly urge the FDA to consider letting us vapers continue using the products that have given so many of us our lives back. It is my belief that there is NO better way to quit smoking than to start vaping instead. In fact, I can’t think of any drawbacks regarding vaping versus smoking! Now I understand that we need to be vigilant as far as keeping these products out of the “wrong hands” (underage people, children, etc). This is perfectly understandable, but please don’t force us ex-smokers to go back to a lifestyle that is unhealthy and detrimental to the quality of life. In vaping, we have found something that gives us hope and good health. Why would you want to take that away from someone?


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I made it! here is my ramble.. hopefully I wasn't to vigilant... but hey

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I am writing this comment as a concerned consumer and proud American! The regulations as proposed in their current form would only serve to harm the thousands of consumers like myself who have finally been able to stop the use of tobacco products! Regulations should be in place to protect not to harm!

FDA, please protect us! Patches, lozenges, and prescription drugs usually do not work and can also cause harm themselves! Switching to vaping/e-cigarettes WORKS! There are thousands people who share this view and this experience. I smoked 1.5 packs of cigarettes for over 30 years. I tried to quit many times - never with success UNTIL the advent of 'e-cigarettes'. I tried using 'the patch' to quit - it gave me nausea and fitfull sleep - I had no good results with gum or lozenges. How could I quit when the alternative was not a viable option? These methods offered by the medical community via the pharmaceutical companies serve only to make profits at the expense of our - the consumers' - health.

E-cigarettes/Vaping enabled me to finally quit smoking tobacco products. These devices are NOT tobacco products. Since I started using them (over 2 years now) I breathe better, I can taste things again, I have more energy and feel healthier overall. The many flavors of e-liquid currently available, with options for nicotine content, were vital in my being able to quit using tobacco products, and they also have allowed me reduce my nicotine intake. I use very little nicotine in any juice that I currently vape and even use juice that is nicotine free. It is because these choices and options are currently available that I was able to stop using tobacco products. If these options are removed from the marketplace it would, in my opinion, be a crime.

Making it difficult for current and potential consumers of e-cigarettes to continue to use these products will only send many back to tobacco use or many to buy e-cigarette products illegally! It will send many new, young consumers to the tobacco store to buy tobacco products. We all know that in spite of the anti-tobacco campaign, young people will try things. Now, at least, they have an alternative to tobacco products - one that is so much better they will indeed choose e-cigarettes over tobacco. Please do not remove the obviously healthier alternative. Doing otherwise can only be seen as protecting the sale of tobacco products OVER healthier alternatives. Children need to be regulated by their patents - if parents fail to inform/educate their children about the dangers of tobacco use, then FDA attempts will fail as well. It is tremendously EASY for children to obtain tobacco products, and yet the FDA now is busy trying to regulate 'e-cigarettes' which is BY FAR the one least likely to cause harm!

Given the history of tobacco and it's use in this country, I do not think it would be seen as a well intended decision to regulate/remove the safer alternative to the use of tobacco products. The ONE THING that the FDA could do that makes any sense is to REMOVE TOBACCO PRODUCTS if their concern is for the well being of consumers. Since it seems obvious that THAT will never happen, focusing on 'e-cigarettes' as the evil twin of tobacco products is just absolutely wrong! No good will come from this, perhaps, well intended, yet terribly misguided proposed ruling. Please do not let pressure from pharmaceutical companies or big tobacco companies sway your decision making! This proposal, as written, is NOT in our, the consumers', best interest. The e-cigarette/vaping community is a large, wonderfully diverse one - all of us brought together mostly by the desire to quit using tobacco products. We are strong and determined and If this regulation is passed we will have to ask the question: Who does this actually benefit? Please, people over profits.
 

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Here I am, over 60 years old, pleading with my country to allow tobacco harm reduction products, namely e-cigarettes, be available for consumers to switch over to. I began smoking at age 10. It was easy to swipe a cigarette & matchbook from the adults, because all the adults in my life smoked. The cigarette tasted awful, but I kept at it until I was hooked, by trying the various brands the various adults smoked. By the time I realized smoking was never going to "taste great like a cigarette should", I was hooked. In my early Twenty's, the health care people were educating us to slow down or to quit. I gave it a shot, drank OJ, watched black lung movies, switched over to less tar "light" cigarettes. That was a big mistake, for me, because I missed the full flavor/tar and ended up practically chain smoking trying to find satisfaction. I tried throwing them down many times, as one would think I would do, if they weren't satisfying, but I always picked them right back up. Finally, despite not being "as safe as lights" I went back to my old brand and finally slowed down some, but not to the extent I was at previously before trying "lights".
Over the years I tried all the methods to quit smoking. The hypnotist provided me with the "symptoms" I would get if I didn't quit and I've been living with smokers symptoms now for over 30 years. The gum made me queasy, the patch gave me rashes, the Paxil made me sleep my life away plus made me indifferent... I could care less if I quit smoking.
Despite my grumbling so about trying to quit, there were only a few times that I really wanted to quit. Smoking was pleasurable when I wasn't being harassed by mean people to quit. Smoking calmed my nerves, helped me to focus, provided excuses to get away from the boring conversations, and always gave me a sense of "purchasing" power. During the rough times when I couldn't afford a movie or dinner out, I could still afford to buy a 50 cent treat for myself everyday. That changed didn't it. In time, that 50 cent pack of smokes had risen to over $5.00. I smoked more, not less, and gave up movies, dinner, shopping, during the good times. During the bad times I rolled my own smokes from butted out cigarettes. Ah, but the health "experts" saw this as a good thing. Yes they did.
I gave up trying to quit and didn't want to try the gimmicky e-cig, but now I'm glad I did. My family bought me my first kit for Christmas one year, and ..... say what???!!! Flavor!! There's that flavor I searched for during my starting years. By the end of my first week of using this new gadget, I had completely forgotten to light up the real smokes!! My family was extraordinarily happy, because I no longer stunk, coughed, or had to take smoke breaks when going anywhere. They were more ecstatic than I was, believe it or not. By my 2nd year of vaping, I had diluted my nicotine from 24mg down to 6mg. I was well on my way to becoming totally nicotine free. In fact, I enjoyed zero nicotine in the evenings already.
Then the vaping bans began cropping up everywhere. Say what?!?! I'm still flabbergasted that our "health experts" are trying to ban the ONLY tool that's helped me join the non-smokers choir. I fought hard, I responded to articles that were so far fetched and hideously full of misinformation. I cried, I yelled! I stressed out so bad, I returned to smoking. I returned to my old security blanket. But, the funny part? I could only handle about 3 puffs per cigarette, so I still vaped more than smoked. The real smokes tasted awfuller than awful! But I still managed to get my stink back on, and I wore it proudly around mean people who dared to criticize vaping. If they miss the stink so bad, they can have the stink back. My pleasure!!
My family, though, kind of became the victims once again. Not only because of the money that went to smokes instead of to a new video game or a trip to the beach, but because of the stink and worry about me smoking. I stressed more, smoked more. It was a viscous circle. I had to find the love, the education, the desire to go back to only vaping. I couldn't! I was so filled with anger, disbelief, sadness, depression, that I couldn't find the love. So, out of the four years I've been a non-smoker, only three counted. It wasn't until the junk science was debunked that I returned to vaping more than smoking. But it's harder this time around, because I've been under tremendous amounts of stress, fighting for my right to not smoke!
My family? They bought me a new gadget. I think I'll be fine again. Oh yes, I KNOW I'll be fine this time. It's a super duper variable watt device that will do the trick for me just fine.
I hope you take the time to fully consider the ramifications of regulating the eCig out of business. If over regulated, you'd actually be regulating the consumer out of life.


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I saved a copy of my comment when I posted it a while ago, if anyone who hasn't yet submitted theirs and is struggling to write something, feel free to use any part of it, it was a bit rushed and there are errors but at least it's something. Here it is:

Thank you for reading my comment, I won't bore you with the long version my story but I was a smoker for over 25 years and tried several times using numerous available products, of which non worked, to quit. It wasn't until I tried electronic cigarettes that I was able to finally stop. My health has improved and of course my family and loved ones are thrilled that I no longer smoke.

I implore you to not hand over a burgeoning and thriving industry over to big tobacco, they've caused enough damage to millions of people already. Should you do that all that will be available will be the small cigalikes that are not effective when trying to get off traditional cigarettes on top of that big tobacco don't want anyone to stop buying their main product but more become dual users so they can make money from both markets.

Big Pharma also have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo as they want people to buy their expensive and ineffective products, they certainly don't want anyone to stop smoking using something they can't make money from.

On top of all the businesses that would close and all the employees that will lose their jobs there's also the untold millions who will no longer have access to effective products with which to help them stop smoking.

Another point worth mentioning is this 2007 date, as I'm sure you are aware there was very little available then so very little that is currently available would qualify, save cigalikes, all the innovation and development would now be lost and most of this innovation is in relation to battery safety and all we would be left with is ineffective and potentially unsafe products.

There are numerous studies that I'm sure others have submitted that are showing electronic cigarettes pose less of a threat to the known hazards associated with traditional cigarettes, we know how bad they are and yes we don't know the affects of long term use of electronic cigarettes but we sure know the problems associated with traditional cigarettes.

In my opinion electronic cigarettes, if allowed, could be the death knell for traditional cigarettes spurring on the end to this disgusting and deadly product, I would hope government could take the long view and try to see the benefits of this new and innovative product and see beyond the tax revenue from cigarettes.

Millions of lives can be saved and numerous lives changed for the better if you give this product the chance I believe it deserves, once again I ask you to not hand this industry over to Big Tobacco and to a lesser degree Big Pharma to do so would be tantamount to a death sentence for millions.

I would like to add that I am a member of the advocacy group CASAA and that adults enjoy sweet flavors just as much as everyone else.

Thank you again for your time

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I am considering sending in one more comment to clarify my story, since it is so different from many of yours, but interested in feedback first. It sort of repudiates the idea of prescription nic.

I had no intention of quitting. I refused to be put on wellbutrin for depression because I found my cigarettes so therapeutic. However, I had to go on an 8 hour long drive with my 80 year old grandmother and didn't want to have to stop so frequently for smoke breaks and was unwilling to subject her to second-hand smoke in the car.

So, I went to the mall and grabbed that cig2O ecig kit and that started the journey. Once I discovered how much better I felt, I decided to stick with it.

There's no way that I would have gone to a doctor for a script. It was an impulsive decision that has had positive ripples throughout every area of my life and has been a sweeping success.
 

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I heard something interesting on the news last night ... apparently the most promising treatment thus far for the Ebola virus is derived from Tobacco plants!! Unfortunately no other details were provided but I found this very intriguing. It wouldn't seem like that much of a stretch to assume nicotine was a major contributor but of course I have no proof of that as of yet.

Just thought I'd share ... the Ebola virus is getting lots of media play in this area due to the two patients that were recently transferred here for treatment.
 
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I heard something interesting on the news last night ... apparently the most promising treatment thus far for the Ebola virus is derived from Tobacco plants!! Unfortunately no other details were provided but I found this very intriguing. It wouldn't seem like that much of a stretch to assume nicotine was a major contributor but of course I have proof of that as of yet.

Just thought I'd share ... the Ebola virus is getting lots of media play in this area due to the two patients that were recently transferred here for treatment.

Drop into the OUTSIDE section. We're discussing it there. It's off topic in this thread.
 

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I am considering sending in one more comment to clarify my story, since it is so different from many of yours, but interested in feedback first. It sort of repudiates the idea of prescription nic.

I had no intention of quitting. I refused to be put on wellbutrin for depression because I found my cigarettes so therapeutic. However, I had to go on an 8 hour long drive with my 80 year old grandmother and didn't want to have to stop so frequently for smoke breaks and was unwilling to subject her to second-hand smoke in the car.

So, I went to the mall and grabbed that cig2O ecig kit and that started the journey. Once I discovered how much better I felt, I decided to stick with it.

There's no way that I would have gone to a doctor for a script. It was an impulsive decision that has had positive ripples throughout every area of my life and has been a sweeping success.

Sharing your story is a very good idea. If you feel it needs clarifying, then clarify it.

Repudiating the notion of prescription nic, which isn't found in the proposed regulations seems unnecessary. Tell your story and what it means to you and how can you go wrong?
 
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