The Gas Station Argument

[ChaosTheory]

hahah, this guy at work devised a pretty intelligent argument against Ecigs.. I'm not so sure why he's made it his mission to question me, but it's hilarious. He said, "ecigs should be banned because someone might be hitting it at a gas station and freak everybody out"

I suppose the argument is that some ecigs present the appearance of traditional cigarettes, so they arouse suspicion from passerby, restaurant owners, government officials, etc that you're actually smoking a lit tobacco product. So what if someone vapes in front of a gas leak or a stack of propane tanks or in a hospital?

I told him that it would be funny to vape at a gas station and see a bunch of old ladies and him running away in terror, haha...

but then it got me thinkin', is this going to be one of those orange plastic caps on toy guns situations? Are Ecigs going to be the target of needless regulations such as forcing the companies to produce batteries that do not resemble traditional cigarettes?

Every time my imagination runs wild with theoretical and absurd laws, they end up becoming reality.

 

[tj99959]

Well if it looks like smoke, it must be ....................

The horror through association is going to haunt us.

 

[doots]

How bout not doing it while pumping gas.. Just a thought..

 

[AttyPops]

What people think, and what they can enforce (after checking out what's really going on) are two different things. I wouldn't worry about it... but I don't vape while I fill up either.

There are pics of people vaping in hospitals here on ECF. IDK if it was technically allowed... may depend on the situation/location.

The anti-smoking extremists already target them anyway... without proper research (deliberately?).

 

[Bahiaboy]

Surely Vaping in a Gas station or anywhere near any Similar Flammable things is a big no no !!! What about the electrical circuit and heating the coil to a very high temp ?? I have actually seen a coil glowing Orange in the dark .................
Would be interesting to know what any experts think ??

 

[lamar]

Your going to have people freaking out about something that looks like smoke around a gas pump. Just don't vape at the pumps. Okay?

 

[azzaman]

They will attack e cigs every way they can. The fact they look like a cig and are called e - cigs doesn't help. Would of been a better idea from the start to produce electronic vaping devices with a different name and a cig shape without the colour look of a cigarette.

 

[dearme]

I'm not an expert, but vaping while pumping gas does not sound like a very safe thing to do.

 

[chef josh]

I'm not sure, but I think the coil in the atty might be able to ignite gas fumes, if they were in high enough concentration.

 

[ChaosTheory]

The argument is that ecigs should be banned because they give the impression that somebody is smoking as far as I can see. Smoking isn't totally banned, but there are a plethora of restrictions in place. Is vaping enough like smoking to justify similar regulations?

 

[azzaman]

A lot of things aren't enough to make regulations but they do. The problem is the similarity allows them to pass regulations a little bit easier. The hawaii proposal is trying to include them in the tobacco products category, which is stupid.

 

[subliminalurge]

Your going to have people freaking out about something that looks like smoke around a gas pump. Just don't vape at the pumps. Okay?

You're going to have people freaking out about something that looks like smoke around a gas pump.
Just let the ...... go right ahead and freak on out. Okay?

Fixed it for ya.

 

[ChaosTheory]

Right... haha, people geekin' out over ecigs... how could somebody like me ask for more?.. it's like Christmas, haha. Too easy.

 

[wv2win]

Why vape a model that looks like a cigarette and pretend you still smoke? I know that smokers are such an admired group of people, but still.

 

[iamtopher34]

I work with explosives and chain vape. At first i had a lot of people at work getting mad at me but i took the time to explain to them what it was and show them there was nothing to fear. The guy you work with should be banned.. I fear people like him so put him jail so i don't have to fear seeing him in public.

 

[Xaria]

Around my parts, you see people actually pumping gas and smoking.

 

[mostlyclassics]

From my earliest memories (I'm 63) to around the late 1990's, many people smoked while their rides were being refuelled. Before self-serve became the norm, it was a 50-50% chance that the attendant who filled your tank had a lit cigarette dangling from his lips. No one thought anything of it.

In all that time, I don't recall one single news report of an explosion or fire at a gas station. Nor do I ever recall seeing a gas station or pump with any sort of fire damage, except in action flicks. Doesn't mean it never happened, but I just don't recall it ever happening in the real world.

 

[subliminalurge]

From my earliest memories (I'm 63) to around the late 1990's, many people smoked while their rides were being refuelled. Before self-serve became the norm, it was a 50-50% chance that the attendant who filled your tank had a lit cigarette dangling from his lips. No one thought anything of it.

In all that time, I don't recall one single news report of an explosion or fire at a gas station. Nor do I ever recall seeing a gas station or pump with any sort of fire damage, except in action flicks. Doesn't mean it never happened, but I just don't recall it ever happening in the real world.

Same here. I've pulled out my zippo and lit up a smoke while pumping gas more times than I could possibly count.

You know what happens when you drop a lit cigarette into an open container of gasoline? The cigarette goes out.

Know what happens when you drop a lit match into an open container of gasoline? The match goes out.

Yes, I've done both.

 

[mostlyclassics]

Same here. I've lit pulled out my zippo and lit up a smoke while pumping gas more times than I could possibly count.

You know what happens when you drop a lit cigarette into an open container of gasoline? The cigarette goes out.

Know what happens when you drop a lit match into an open container of gasoline? The match goes out.

Yes, I've done both.

Hee hee! My wastrel, teenage friends and I have done those too, back in the day!

 

[nanovapr]

To the OP, you friend has peculiar arguments, for sure! I agree that we should not try to look like we are smoking. The ones that look like cigs are also the worst-performing ones possible.

subliminalurge, your post made me laugh. In some of my mis-spent youth on a farm I have done both, and worse! Gas needs to have a lot more air to go pow. I too have seen many cigs lit and smoked at a gas pump.

I also know a guy that has half a face because he lit a cig in a car with an empty gas can in the back seat.

Still? The coils of nearly any PV can be red-hot. I won't gamble that a waft of fumes from two pumps down won't have enough air to go pow. Vaping near dangerous things to freak out little old ladies demonstrates a need for several things.