The Gland is at it again...

[AgentAnia]

E-cigarette use by South Korean children - a new study

Both Dr. Farsalinos and Michael Siegel comment on this latest travesty:

E-cigarette use in South Korean children - a new study
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com...-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00-05:00&max-results=35

Both articles provide links to the study itself (which I haven't read so as not to ruin an otherwise pleasant day...)

 

[LDS714]

They probably have access to large, sugary drinks also...

 

[Jay-dub]

Well. I read it. I don't know. I'm starting to get numb to this kind of thing.

 

[LDS714]

Sorry, that was meant to be a sarcastic reply to the conclusions.

ANTZ, Bloomburg, all outlets for the same "stuff"...

 

[AgentAnia]

It seems our infamous mechanical engineer doesn't know the difference between cross-sectional and longitudinal studies. (Or possibly he thinks no one else does so he can draw his preferred conclusions with impunity?)

I give this study 4 (out of 5) pfuis.

 

[Spazmelda]

The distinction between correlation and causation is something that was drilled into me as both an undergrad and graduate student. It's something that non-scientists are sometimes confused about, but I can't imagine a working scientist being confused on this issue. Doesn't he teach, like, statistics or something?


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[rothenbj]

It's amazing the the scientific community has gotten so corrupted that Glantz can get peer review approval. Better stated, is there anyone in the scientific community not in bed with big pharma?

 

[AgentAnia]

It's amazing the the scientific community has gotten so corrupted that Glantz can get peer review approval.

In my reading since joining ECF, I've seen many comments/opinions that the peer review process has in many instances become so politicized as to be ineffective, if not worthless, as an indication of scientific rigor.

Better stated, is there anyone in the scientific community not in bed with big pharma?

If they're not in bed with them yet, they're standing at the bedroom door, taking notes to see how it's done...

 

[Spazmelda]

There are a lot of problems with peer review. Lots of problems with open access as well. I don't know what the solution is going to be.

 

[Fulgurant]

The distinction between correlation and causation is something that was drilled into me as both an undergrad and graduate student. It's something that non-scientists are sometimes confused about, but I can't imagine a working scientist being confused on this issue. Doesn't he teach, like, statistics or something?

Most ANTZ arguments wouldn't pass muster in a grade-school composition class. It's no surprise that their scientific reasoning leaves much to be desired. It's definitely annoying that people can make comfortable livings spewing obvious idiocy, though.

C'est la vie.

 

[AgentAnia]

Most ANTZ arguments wouldn't pass muster in a grade-school composition class. It's no surprise that their scientific reasoning leaves much to be desired. It's definitely annoying that people can make comfortable livings spewing obvious idiocy, though.

C'est la vie.

Non, non, c'est la guerre!

 

[2coils]

From Dr. Siegel.....As we go into the Thanksgiving holiday, I am seriously thinking about why there is a need to continue to do tobacco control research. If we are going to simply conclude what we want to conclude, regardless of the ability of the science to reach such a conclusion, then what's the point of doing the research in the first place?

Isn't this the truth!! "They" claim e-cigs are the wild west! just laughable. Look what all these hypocrites are doing with these studies!