The Janty Journal - Discuss all Janty products

[Mik_Janty]

Its different - hard to compare. The new cartomizers and atomizers both feel much more like an 801- to me, less taste and more vapor. But it is good actually - but in the end i will personally prefer the normal 510 + cone both for looks and taste.

But i will be using these new ones on a regular basis - they are really good on their own terms.

Right now im using an auto battery (which im not a fan of normally) with a big cartomizer, and it is _really_ good. The new design of the cartos ( inside ) seems to make these cartos safe for vaping on autos with - no leaking, and massive power/puffs. nice combo!

 

[Switched]

Bang on Mik - thanks. That is pretty much what I expected.

 

[Switched]

We were promised reasonable prices, I guess reasonable is as subjective as flavours these days. I would have thought prices would have reflected a certain enticement or something, especially on the introductory run:

Mik: REMOVED: We do not allow pricing, info, etc from competitive shops. If you wish to discuss this, feel free to PM me. I dont see the point in you quoting another vendor that has nothing to do with Janty.

On a side note, how about waiting till Janty has launched with their prices to discuss this matter? If you need to discuss the things you linked here, you should go to that vendors forum instead of this.

 

[Switched]

Wow!

That seems like a good word for this WE I have read several responses from Mik, and all I can say is Wow!

How to make friends and influence people! I think they wrote a book about that

But I could be wrong...

 

[Mik_Janty]

If you break the forum rules, .. then what do you expect me to do?

 

[Uma]

I ordered on Friday and recieved product on Monday.. absolutely amazing packaging and shipping. Thanks Janty!
The product: Jumbo carts, prefilled with ry4. They're nice... but I'm dreading the refill experience that comes next. Is there a video?

 

[Mik_Janty]

Hey Uma,

If this is for the cartomizer:

I have no idea if there is a video about, but it is pretty simple - there are two plastic pieces you have to pull off. The first one is at the very end of the mouthpiece, - squeeze on either side of it, to get it to pop off (be careful it really shoots out).

Then once that is taken off, there is another piece, which in order to get out, you press inside the mouthpiece, on the side to get it to sort of tilt, and then you can pick it out. Once that is out, you use a syringe with liquid and insert that syringe dead center ( some soft silicone ( black ) ) and just pierce about halfway through the entire cartomizer and "spray" in the liquid. Then reinsert both pieces.

If its not for the cartomizer, im not sure what you mean by problem?

 

[Uma]

Thanks for the info on the cartomizer I requested. Will try to follow directions...

 

[Vapnub]

I ordered the Janty Dura C almost 2 weeks ago and love it love it love it. I have a few questions I can't seem to locate the answer too and was hoping someone could help.
1. How long should an atomizer last?
2. How long does a TAWA last?
3. Can I clean and reuse the cartridge filling infinity?
4. Is the Dura C compatible with all 510 products?
5. Is the Dura C HV?

Well I think that should be enough for now

 

[Vapnub]

Does the Dura C have a PCC available?

 

[Mik_Janty]

I ordered the Janty Dura C almost 2 weeks ago and love it love it love it. I have a few questions I can't seem to locate the answer too and was hoping someone could help.
1. How long should an atomizer last?

*** it depends on usage - between 2 weeks and 4 months.

2. How long does a TAWA last?

*** They are the same product - but without warranty.

3. Can I clean and reuse the cartridge filling infinity?

*** No. Nothing is infinite - but you can reuse it alot of times.. like 100+ (in my opinion) ofcourse this varies from user to user.

4. Is the Dura C compatible with all 510 products?

*** No - but alot of them. You have to check individually. For instance, never use an eGo charger on a dura battery as it might explode.

5. Is the Dura C HV?

*** No Janty product is HV - we do have LR (low resistance atomizers) that burn hotter than normal atomizers. So yes, you can buy LR atomizers that fit the Dura (its the same ones as used for the eGo)

Well I think that should be enough for now

And yes there is a PCC for the dura - i believe Janty USA has it?

 

[NuGalicia]

What's up with the black only? It took awhile to get the battery colors, but now the mega cartos don't really match all the other colors.

As a consumer, here's how I think: "Wow, I'd really like to buy a chrome mega eGo automatic with matching mega carto. Wonder where I can get one?" So I start looking around. After an hour of searching, I conclude the money burning a hole in my pocket should probably be spent elsewhere.

Also, releasing in Europe before the USA produces the same effect - I look for something else. People will pay more for convenience.

No product becomes truly GREAT until it's sold effectively.

 

[Mik_Janty]

Any new product needs to be "tested" first. And it would be suicide to launch a product in all colors, before we know if people will even buy the product; thats why its being produced in black only, to begin with.

Releasing in Europe, before USA does create this effect, for USA. For Europe they are quite happy. Last time we did USA first. It goes back and forth - thats the only fair way isnt it?

 

[NuGalicia]

With all due respect, I disagree.

Old business models & systems are truly passing away worldwide. This is not just a consequence of market corrections, business thinking is returning to it's roots, where "the customer is king".

Lately it seems only the 'Knock-off' companies really listen to customer feedback and implement product changes (Hint: if people post they want something, it'll sell). If people are buying blue eGo batteries & cones, is it a giant leap of faith to believe they'll buy blue mega cartomizers? Is the market research really necesary in this case?

Everywhere you look multinational companies are failing due to the inefficiency of yesterday's thinking:
--UPS can't even guarantee a package will be delivered in December and refuses refunds that whole month!
--I just sat on hold 2 hrs 45 minutes with a company. I wWonder how many potential clients wouldn't wait that long?
--3 years ago publishers were still disbelieving electronic books had a chance.
--5 years ago newspapers believed they could be viable.
--7 years ago pay phones weren't $21 a minute!
--10 years ago Metallica testified before the US congress that electronic music downloads would never adequately compensate artists.

This isn't my opinion only. Microsoft FINALLY learned what I'm suggesting here: press releases don't heighten people's anticipation, they tick them off waiting on product availability. Ultimately customers will learn to hate a vendor.

Business is like poker. You're either in, or you're out - suicide or not. Simply put: if Janty waits putting out a product, pirates with clones (e.g. VGO's, etc) won't.

 

[Toby]

Microsoft FINALLY learned what I'm suggesting here...

Janty being compared to, and considered, in respect to Microsoft and Metallica...
.. now surely that's a good thing...

 

[Vapnub]

Thanks Mik answer were just what I was looking for. Worked with Ethan and I'm getting a replacement for the defected atty. So far happy with Janty customer service and my product. However already considering upgrading to the eGo lol.

 

[Mik_Janty]

With all due respect, I disagree.

Old business models & systems are truly passing away worldwide. This is not just a consequence of market corrections, business thinking is returning to it's roots, where "the customer is king".

Lately it seems only the 'Knock-off' companies really listen to customer feedback and implement product changes (Hint: if people post they want something, it'll sell). If people are buying blue eGo batteries & cones, is it a giant leap of faith to believe they'll buy blue mega cartomizers? Is the market research really necesary in this case?

Everywhere you look multinational companies are failing due to the inefficiency of yesterday's thinking:
--UPS can't even guarantee a package will be delivered in December and refuses refunds that whole month!
--I just sat on hold 2 hrs 45 minutes with a company. I wWonder how many potential clients wouldn't wait that long?
--3 years ago publishers were still disbelieving electronic books had a chance.
--5 years ago newspapers believed they could be viable.
--7 years ago pay phones weren't $21 a minute!
--10 years ago Metallica testified before the US congress that electronic music downloads would never adequately compensate artists.

This isn't my opinion only. Microsoft FINALLY learned what I'm suggesting here: press releases don't heighten people's anticipation, they tick them off waiting on product availability. Ultimately customers will learn to hate a vendor.

Business is like poker. You're either in, or you're out - suicide or not. Simply put: if Janty waits putting out a product, pirates with clones (e.g. VGO's, etc) won't.

With all due respect, you cant just yank out facts here and there, and due to them being true within their own fields, and within that narrow corridor of time, in that particular space and time, and say that this is how the world works.

I know, it would be better for us to release a product simultaneously in Europe and USA. I know it would be better to release a product in 20 different colors to begin with.

I also know it would be better if an eGo set came with a free bar of gold, a gallon of rare glenlivet, and a skateboard made of chocolate, but.. you know, sometimes realitys a pain in the .....

 

[darianilre]

With all due respect, you cant just yank out facts here and there, and due to them being true within their own fields, and within that narrow corridor of time, in that particular space and time, and say that this is how the world works.

I know, it would be better for us to release a product simultaneously in Europe and USA. I know it would be better to release a product in 20 different colors to begin with.

I also know it would be better if an eGo set came with a free bar of gold, a gallon of rare glenlivet, and a skateboard made of chocolate, but.. you know, sometimes realitys a pain in the .....

Hilarious... it takes a lot to get me to LOL literally and it happened here. Thanks.

 

[tinstar15]

I'm going to side with Mik on this one. For multi-billion dollar industries like Microsoft or Apple to put out a product with dozens of different options and features simultaneously isn't much of a risk. If a certain segment of the production, i.e. orange I-pads, flop sales-wise, the loss can be covered by other products and by offering discounts on the lower selling items, or giving them away in publicity building marketing ploys.

E-cig companies are a niche business. They cater to a very specific group of consumers who have an unbelievably wide spectrum of demands. You'll see people on this board who prefer an e-cig that looks just like the real thing and others that want mods that look like a propane tank attached to a leaf blower.

Janty, by putting out ideas and seeing what the demand is, tests the waters before sinking funds into something. That way they'll have some idea of what the return will be. All the large corporations do marketing research with small groups of their consumer bases to see what products or services will provide an acceptable return on their investments. Janty has been doing the same thing, only using this forum as their sample consumer test group.

Out of the millions or billions of smokers, most still use analogs. There may be millions of e-cig users, but how many of them read forums or take the time to post? How many e-cig users even know that this particular forum exists? As large as this forum is, it is still only a small fraction of the potential client base for any e-cig company. I say "Good work Janty" on coming up with a cost-effective research method......and hurry up with the darn pipe, isn't it close enough to September already?