The Kick by Sigelei?

[Donovan69]

I have been whaling on a kicked bolt for the last month and a half and I love my kick! I do think its a travesty when someone elses work get ripped of for profit. But thats just business. Who knows if Seigelei is ripping offf evolv or not. Either way I have a kick by evolv and it perfroms awesome. Took me a bit of tinkering to find my wattage "sweet spot". Even then the reviews on the kick can be misleading. You can't just screw anything on your mech and vape. My pineapple is awesome at 8 watts but my strawberryz burns at that wattage. Hence you can't put anything on a kick and have it work. I just got a vamo and although it is way bigger than my kicked bolt with an 18490 batt inside. I run the vamo in all its glory with two 18350 stacked batts in there. What I like about the vamo is that I can quickly adjust my wattage to the taste of the juice I am vaping. I feel that the vamo is going to teach me how to better utilize my kick. As far as vaping at sub ohm levels it sounds fun. But I love a regulated vape. That sub ohm stuff would have to be strictly my home vape scene. I am just learning how to recoil my igo-l. I built my first coil the other day out of 32 guage canthol and 3mm silica and its vaping awesome. I love vaping and ECF!!!!

 

[LeftCoastVaper]

I think you'll find that all along The Kick was made in china.. If makers say It's designed in USA they can some how justify charging $50 for a $3 item.

The Kick is NOT made in China. It's manufactured end to end in the USA by Dimension and Evolv. You really need to get your facts straight before maligning a reputable company which, apparently, you know nothing about.

 

[Donovan69]

Right on jonpt I love all the info I get from this site!!

 

[shihchuansun]

I think you'll find that all along The Kick was made in china.. If makers say It's designed in USA they can some how justify charging $50 for a $3 item.

All Evolv ever said was that "We have partnered with Dimension Engineering and are releasing a Modder’s Board version of our Power Regulated technology. This will bring our Power Regulation to a more customizable format for various creative applications."

No where did it EVER state, Made in USA. It's all in the dishonest writing.

I've heard of many people were never happy with the product for X, Y, Z reasons. Maybe the new price point of $10 will be more appealing?

A co-op was just done on these so I'll post back with more info on these soon.

Lol I think I'm in the same Co-Op. Is it the one with Bucky and #19s?

 

[crxess]

Well, I've been in electronics since PC's went public and I can tell everyone here - There is nothing in the KICK beyond profit that makes it worth $40-$50.

The Kick is NOT made in China. It's manufactured end to end in the USA by Dimension and Evolv. You really need to get your facts straight before maligning a reputable company which, apparently, you know nothing about.

Every search I try says Evolv with no mention of Dimension.

No need to be so testy. this is after all, just a forum and no one here has to accept anything as fact or fiction - unless you believe the internet rule.

 

[LeftCoastVaper]

Sorry, but I like the guys at both Dimension and Evolv. They all work hard to produce quality, US-built products, and whether the Kick is worth $40-50 is entirely subjective. Fact is, you don't know what goes into its production, so to say it's overpriced without any knowledge of how it's fabricated is, at best, kind of egregious. Agreed?

Just because this is a "forum" doesn't mean normal rules of fairness and civility don't apply. If you have a specific gripe with Evolv or its products, say so. If not, exercise your right to remain silent.

Hope you don't consider the preceding too testy...

 

[crxess]

Sorry, but I like the guys at both Dimension and Evolv. They all work hard to produce quality, US-built products, and whether the Kick is worth $40-50 is entirely subjective. Fact is, you don't know what goes into its production, so to say it's overpriced without any knowledge of how it's fabricated is, at best, kind of egregious. Agreed?

Just because this is a "forum" doesn't mean normal rules of fairness and civility don't apply. If you have a specific gripe with Evolv or its products, say so. If not, exercise your right to remain silent.

Hope you don't consider the preceding too testy...

No complaints with Evolv or any other company. But you assume I have no experience as you assume you know just how hard they are working and how complicated design is.
Sorry, been there and very well understand just what is involved in design, prototyping, testing and Marketing a finalized product.
I think we have both about covered it.

 

[cardenio]

In response to the first part of your statement, people do it because they want a regulated vape from a mechanical device... As to the second part of your response, most Vamo, V/Zmax, Evic, & (insert any other failed VV/VW devices here), vape between 7-10 watts and are very happy with the vape. This is where just about any mechanical and an installed Kick come into play! Most people are curious about mechanical's and RBA's but don't either know how to or can't set them up properly and consistently to get the same vape they were getting with their VV/VW devices. You also have those people that don't have an interest in rebuilding their own coils, (for whatever reason), and would rather use just a standard atty or carto on their device and again this is where the Kick installed is the viable option for them.

I am one of those people that enjoys my vape at 9-10 watts and I can just set the Kick, install it, and vape happily, (and consistently), all day... I also own other mechanical's and have RBA's on them and have tried the sub-ohm coils and IMO, its nothing to write home about.

The same feeling you have about not understanding why someone would want to kick a mechanical, I don't understand why anyone would want to vape sub-ohm coils!!! To me its a step back in time, prior to VV/VW, with vaping and the draining of the battery leaving me with an unsatisfied vape and wanting to pick up an analog!!! At least with using the Kick installed I don't have that craving!!!

Something to remember, what makes your vape enjoyable to you is usually not going to be the same for someone else... Its not rocket science!!!

I'm on your side for this one, i love me some mechanical mods with a kick just a preference thing most variable wattage/voltage devices i've tried have disappointed me big time (two provaris are the exception, nothing works much better to vape an occasional carto tank or check ohms on RBA's for me) and a mechanical user that never uses a kick sounds a little pretentious.. i certainly don't have the time or patience to always have the perfect ohm reading for a 3.7v device

 

[cardenio]

The Kick is NOT made in China. It's manufactured end to end in the USA by Dimension and Evolv. You really need to get your facts straight before maligning a reputable company which, apparently, you know nothing about.

I logged on a few days ago and was sad to see all the negative feedback about something i love so much, thanks for coming kick fans! I wasn't sure where the kick was made (hoped USA) but i was afraid that person might be right...

 

[Shreck]

The kick is made in the usa and its costs more to produce in the usa than it would in china.
It would make sense for evolv to team up with a china company and continue to profit from the product, even if it is at a smaller margin. If they don't, china WILL still clone the product and evolv will see absolutely none of the profits from it.

 

[Oktyabr]

a mechanical user that never uses a kick sounds a little pretentious.. i certainly don't have the time or patience to always have the perfect ohm reading for a 3.7v device

But you have the time to take apart the tube, adjust the screw, put it back on, test the tank/carto/whatver, take it apart again, adjust it some more... Or perhaps carry around a handy dandy pocket DMM so you can check coils and such before you take it apart to adjust your kick?

I have nothing against anyone using anything that keeps them vaping and not smoking, and I certainly think most mechanical mechs are a good investment... but many mech users won't use a kick. Some people get it and some people don't get it... yet.

 

[t8kiteasy]

The kick is made in the usa and its costs more to produce in the usa than it would in china.
It would make sense for evolv to team up with a china company and continue to profit from the product, even if it is at a smaller margin. If they don't, china WILL still clone the product and evolv will see absolutely none of the profits from it.

Pbusardo has a short little take on one of his last vids,i can't remember which one,and said china is coming out with there version of the kick called the Stomp.

 

[Shreck]

Pbusardo has a short little take on one of his last vids,i can't remember which one,and said china is coming out with there version of the kick called the Stomp.

its the video where he reviews the crown.

 

[t8kiteasy]

its the video where he reviews the crown.

Thank you.

 

[arth_d]

It hasn't got anything to do with evolv i think its just for the pics. Theres a co-op going on another forum and the dude organising it spoke to the manufacturers and the Segelei kick does hit 15W.

 

[StaircaseWit]

i certainly don't have the time or patience to always have the perfect ohm reading for a 3.7v device

Once you know the number of wraps you need on a given thickness of wick it's second-nature. I don't spend any more time worrying about "perfect ohm readings" on a mechanical than I do on my Provari. I roll a ~1.3-1.4 ohm coil and never mess with it again until it's time to re-wick.

Evolv also admits that the Kick gives you 10-20% less battery life than a mechanical, which is a valid consideration for a lot of people.

 

[COM76]

I read the same type of forum matter on a different subject when picking out a mechanical watch last year. Some people like to just know everything they are using is pure mechanics rather than chips and circuit boards. It is a feeling of having something timeless if you take care of it. Each to their own. I myself have gone through phases of which i prefer. Honestly it comes back to pure mechanics each time.

 

[Mistaree]

For the record.... Foreign or Domestic... A copyright protects against cloning usually & if not, it would be sold on the black market... China's clones are sold openly...meaning 9 times out of 10, they followed suit to what most American companies do..
They sold their copyrights to the Chinese at a nice profit, while the Chinese improved on the American blueprint... Nearly half of America belongs to Japan or China....We bomb them, pay to rebuild they're country, raise money to feed their country & helped them build an economy by selling them damn near every American factory & even if its made in America...the parts still come from China..Hell, I bet every circuit board & diode in the "KICK" wasn't made here. China invents it, we buy & improve on it & then we sell it back to China (or sum foreign country) ....The New American Way...

 

[Gaspar74]

I spent all this time reading about how to properly use the "kick" to hear bickering. Not once in this combo did anyone actually explain how to use it properly. Seriously...... Oh and I'm not tech ignorant either.

 

[muzichead]

The OP topic had nothing to do with, "How to properly use the kick", but simply was an informational post that a chinese copy was released, and the debate was open for discussion from there!! If you would like to know how the kick operates and want an instructional to it, all you had to do was ask, (nicely), I might add!!

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