The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics

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Elyptic

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I've my my lemo drop for about a week, amazing tank but the big clouds only lasted a day or 2, since then it's standard (still more vapor than a kayfun lol) what gives? current build is 0.7 ohm microcoil, not sure on diameter, bigger than 1/16th, next size up (tobeco coil jig) it's around 6 or 7 wraps i think, regular cotton since i cant find rayon anywhere. also running it on my sigelei 100w plus at 30 watts right now.

Are your coils dirty? I find that the Lemo tends to gunk up the coils faster than my kayfun. My sure why though!


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I've my my lemo drop for about a week, amazing tank but the big clouds only lasted a day or 2, since then it's standard (still more vapor than a kayfun lol) what gives? current build is 0.7 ohm microcoil, not sure on diameter, bigger than 1/16th, next size up (tobeco coil jig) it's around 6 or 7 wraps i think, regular cotton since i cant find rayon anywhere. also running it on my sigelei 100w plus at 30 watts right now.

A couple of days? That would be 20ml for me. I would have dry burned and rewicked 4 times by then using my dirtiest juice.
 

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Yeah I rewicked many times actually. And changed used 2 coils in the time I've had it. 0.8 and 0.7, amazing clouds at first but I can't seem to get those back.

I build mine (now) spaced at 1.8Ω @ which is 10 wraps, the vape blows a .7 build (what I use to use) out of the water. Mod is set between 28 and 30 watts.
 

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Have had the Lemo (full size) since Sunday and, I nailed it on the first build. That's only because I wicked it like a Kayfun. Used 24g 10/11 wraps around a 1/8" bit with cellucotton for wicking. It comes out to about 1.11 ohms and works pretty well at any wattage up to about 45 (my device hits its voltage limit at 45 watts with 1.11 resistance).

I've put away all my other atties, drippers, tanks, mods, etc. Now it's just the Lemo and the IPV3 all day, everyday.
 

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I build mine (now) spaced at 1.8Ω @ which is 10 wraps, the vape blows a .7 build (what I use to use) out of the water. Mod is set between 28 and 30 watts.

28awg? Yeah I'm in to smaller gauges and higher res. 29 being my fav single strand at 1.8-1.9ohms. 32awg twisted (27-30 twists per inch) is mind blowing for flavor though. Use it in my Lemo, Protanks and Egrip Rba.

Never could get 26 or heavier to impress me. Heats and cools too slow (gunking coils quicker) and power hungry. Still use 26 duals on my mech mod for low res high power apps.
 

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Yeah I'm having a hard time figuring out which wire size/ohms/diameter to use with this lemo. I just can't get good vapor like i should be.

Here's something to consider: over tensioning or over biasing while winding. I've discovered that having the turns of a contact coil in an overly compressive state kills the vapor production. I changed my winding technique to only wind with enough tension( amount of pulling force) and bias( the angle that the wire from the spool approaches the winding tool) to get the coil turns to remain touching. Thinking here is that an overly compressed coil may prevent the proper formation of alumina, that is, not allowing for large enough inter-crystalline voids to form for juice and vapor to pass through.

Tested this theory on my rda duals. Wound them with a lot of tension and bias angle and what do you know, almost all of the vapor was shooting out the ends of the coils and the center of coils appeared dry of juice. Vapor production sucked and tasted burny unless I dripped directly on the coils. Rewound the duals with only enough tension and bias to achieve contact between the turns of coil and they performed awesome.

Same with Lemo factory wind, it's wound to near perfect compressive strain and vapes great.
 
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Any chance of getting pics of the build? Also, how do you go about wrapping a spaced coil? Dumb question maybe but I've tried it and can't seem to get it right.

Also been wicking like you posted about earlier in the thread and I have to say it's working out great. Once I finish this tank I'm either gonna try and add a "flavor" or "mummy" wick or maybe use Willie's bridge wick with yours. I meant to try that last week but never got around to it and I've been enjoying the current setup that I've just been filling and vaping it.

Here are those pics....

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I have yet to try a spaced kanthal build, similar vape to spaced nickel? I've only tried contact kanthal coils. I love this place, always learning!!


I built a beautiful spaced kanthal coil for one of the Lemo's. Great flavor from it, but I wasn't a big fan of the increased warm up time and higher wattage required, and replaced it with my go-to contact coil.

I'll have to experiment with a lower resistance and try it again.
 

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I have yet to try a spaced kanthal build, similar vape to spaced nickel? I've only tried contact kanthal coils. I love this place, always learning!!

I haven't done a contact coil in the Lemo yet. I have never been a big fan of them because they gunk up so quick and a spaced will cover more wick. As for the spaced, it is a warmer vape if you fire it over 28 watts, the flavor is better and the vapor is noticeably denser, both of which can likely be attributed to the added warmth. It also burns through juice about twice as fast as my nickel builds. I haven't noticed any negative due to ramp up, I see that more in my 26g coils.
 

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I haven't done a contact coil in the Lemo yet. I have never been a big fan of them because they gunk up so quick and a spaced will cover more wick. As for the spaced, it is a warmer vape if you fire it over 28 watts, the flavor is better and the vapor is noticeably denser, both of which can likely be attributed to the added warmth. It also burns through juice about twice as fast as my nickel builds. I haven't noticed any negative due to ramp up, I see that more in my 26g coils.

I agree. I've done contact coils and spaced and for me, spaced coils give a denser vape. I did a 29 gauge spaced coil at about 1.2 ohms and it worked really well without taking too long to heat up.

I can see where 28 gauge or 26 gauge would be very slow to heat.


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I built a beautiful spaced kanthal coil for one of the Lemo's. Great flavor from it, but I wasn't a big fan of the increased warm up time and higher wattage required, and replaced it with my go-to contact coil.

I'll have to experiment with a lower resistance and try it again.

Maybe try a smaller gauge instead of lower res for faster heat up time....unless your using a mech mod. With today's apv's using larger gauge and low res coils are not as necessary as with mech mods.
 

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When you guys wick yours I was watching RIP and he cuts it just about even with the top of the chimney then tucks it in and wets it and makes sure you can see light down through the juice holes. do you guys do it that way.

Cutting the wick even with the top of the chimney is a pretty good rule of thumb to follow. By cutting even with the chimney you are sort of "pre-measuring" the wick length so when you gently tuck it down toward the juice channels it won't be excessively long or short -- rather a happy in between. When re-wicking my Lemo (or Kayfun for that matter) I don't pay a tremendous amount of attention to the juice holes. I simply make sure the wick is evenly placed and not stuffed in a juice channel. I happen to use a pair of blunt nosed tweezers, but you can use just about any tool that will allow you to move the wick around. There was and maybe still is at a debate about how much cotton to use. I'm assuming you are using cotton -- hope that's OK. At first peeps said "less is better" then it came around to "more is better". I think the safest thing to do is make sure you aren't "pressing" the wick down so it might occlude a juice channel.
I've tried to screw up a re-wicking and it is somewhat hard to do. I used little wick or a ton of it as long as if fit through the coil without deforming or moving it. It's not as bad as it sounds. What you read are people talking about different ways to skin the cat, but generally they all work. Hope this was not too convoluted of an answer.....:confused:
 
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