Smelled so bad (with bottles closed, the stench is noticeable!)...had to put them in the basement ... can't even experiment yet at 1% because I can't stand the aromas LOL
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Smelled so bad (with bottles closed, the stench is noticeable!)...had to put them in the basement ... can't even experiment yet at 1% because I can't stand the aromas LOL
I mixed the TFA Tiramisu with Caramel, chocolate, Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, steeped it and vaped it ALL day today in a house full of People. They all raved about the delicious smell. Go figure!!.. start with the most foul smelling Tiramisu, add a few flavors and come out with a fragrant awesome tasting vape! I am constantly amazed by DIY!
OK, got my order
I'll stick to the relevant flavors so as to not muddy the waters
These were all mixed into a base of 20% PG, 6% DW and 74% VG, too lazy to calculate final proportions, but I used water + flavor to bring all final nic concentrations to 18 mg, because for me nic does change things so I wanted to keep them all equal, and equal to the AVE mgs that I've used
TPA graham cracker 10%: Initially tasted like kettle corn plus something graham crackerish, the kettle corn thing is calming down as I vape it. I like it. I think this flavor is mostly EM, Acetyl Pyrazine and something else
TPA molasses 5%: I'm loving this stuff. It has a richness and a bite to it I've been looking for, for a long time, and I'm really glad I got this
TPA Banana Nut Bread 5%: At first the banana was overwhelming, now the bready/buttery vibe is starting to come through
First impression on all of them separately was, I really think this flavor is in Bobas/Gorilla juice to some extent.
I started dripping all of them into my atty after a while, in different proportions just to play. Its interesting, the banana nut when kept minimal ends up giving the mix a very non banana, Boba's vibe to me. When I increase the drops it becomes more like banana and GJ.
I honestly think these three, if I devoted some time to it, would make a perfect BB/GJ clone, maybe not a perfect clone, but certainly good enough that I would never want to buy the original again. There is certainly something missing, and I think its the right tobacco flavor/extract. If I could nail that it would be a good day. I have a long list of potentials sitting in my drawer I'll start playing around with.
The mind job again is, well, these are all PG based. Thing is, wouldn't be hard to score the compounds (EM, AP, TMP, etc whatever they are) in a different solvent (e.g. VG/Water, PGA) if I were a big juice vendor, so I don't think that's necessarily a sign that I/we're mucking down the wrong path.
Anyway, Cyrus Out.
So the Banana Nut Bread just kept getting better, had to make a new batch
The TPA graham cracker did calm down on the kettle corn notes, but not as much as I'd like. I'm going to have to make a new batch at 5% and see if its different. There's something in there I really want...but then the kettle corn steps in lol.
OTOH Capellas graham cracker is to die for. It's not going to do much as far as cloning Bobas/GJ IMO, but as far as getting a real graham cracker taste, richness and spices etc, its LEGIT
I initially used 5% and was almost overwhelmed, I ended up cutting some with unflavored and probably ended up around 2.5% and very happy. Much lighter but the flavor is still there, and more friendly to all day use.
Very nice, Cyrus!
I just put an order in from VZ, and WL. Next time around, unless contraindicated, is going to be at High Desert for Capella flavorings. I have been wanting to try their Strawberries and Cream per mwa's recommendation. I'll throw in some of their Graham Cracker as well.
To be honest, I don't need an exact replica of Boba's, however, there is that spiciness to it, that sweet and spiciness that just gives me vapegasims. If I can somehow replicate that, shazzam.
Anyways, glad you're enjoying the B.Nut Bread. I too enjoy it very much.
I just put an order in from VZ, and WL. Next time around, unless contraindicated, is going to be at High Desert for Capella flavorings. I have been wanting to try their Strawberries and Cream per mwa's recommendation. I'll throw in some of their Graham Cracker as well.
To be honest, I don't need an exact replica of Boba's, however, there is that spiciness to it, that sweet and spiciness that just gives me vapegasims. If I can somehow replicate that, shazzam.
Anyways, glad you're enjoying the B.Nut Bread. I too enjoy it very much.
Alrighty, folks. It's with great pleasure that I get to share a couple of new flavors I've acquired from VapingZone. I procured some Old Captain, B&H, Black & Mild, and Coconut (for Boba's clone recipe).
I mixed 5ml bottles of Old Captain, B&H, and Black & Mild. If curious, I mixed them all at 40/60vg (because I'm running low on vg, heh). 10mg, and all with 3 drops of flavoring per 5ml. They've had a solid 3 minutes of steep time, so, let's get to it.
Black & Mild - Hmm, what an interesting flavor. Surprisingly, it does resemble a little bit of a black and mild cigar, albeit a little sweeter, chocolate? Call me crazy, but, there is something in this flavor that reminds me of Copper Creek's House blend. Not an exact duplicate, but, were I to wager, I'd say that this could be an ingredient used in that blend? Or something resembling the flavor. It's sweet on the tongue, but feels like a tobacco on the inhale, and for that, I like it.
For the sake of brevity, never my strong suit, I will move on to the next blend, and try to keep these short-ish
Old Captain - Nice. Very smooth tobacco. This is a good one to get that burn while exhaling through the nose (To note: When I hit on my vaporizer, I tend to puff 3-4 consecutive puffs, exhaling through the nose at times before taking my final inhale and exhale through the trachea. Depending on the blend used, it can create a nice burning feeling in the nasal that replicates that harshness with OG <Original gansta> smoking). I can't really think of something to liken this flavor to, though I will say that this could make a very good mixer tobacco. It holds that feeling of traditional smoking, without the nasty flavor of actually burning something. Not bad, I say.
B&H - I've read that people get chocolate out of this blend, though, I am having a little difficulty tasting that. I will say that I have had tobaccos in the past, though I cannot remember them, that taste similar to this. Relatively robust, distinctive taste. Sort of spicy. I don't quite know about this one as of now. It's vapeable, but, I can't envision using it as an all day flavor.
All in all, they're not bad. I am revisiting the Black and Mild right now, and it's starting to remind me of a certain element in HHV tobaccos, but it's also reminding me of the CC House Blend. I believe there to be something similar within these blends. Or, my taste cells are playing games with me. If I had to guess, I would say it's the 'chocolate' element that's giving off that taste. Though, that makes little sense to me, because I taste HHV tobacco in Asian RY4
Also, I do not know if the Black and Mild would be a suitable base for a Boba's replica, though, I will put the coconut in it later to see how it shapes up.
Out of these, the B&H is probably my least favorite. Black and Mild has some really nice elements to it, but, I can't shake the little hint of HHV, thus making Old Captain my favorite out of these three flavors. Since I've got to go to work, I will work on these flavors later, retrying them to see if I can figure out what might go good with them.
More on this, and the Boba's clone, later on. Thanks for reading!
I mixed 5ml bottles of Old Captain, B&H, and Black & Mild. If curious, I mixed them all at 40/60vg (because I'm running low on vg, heh). 10mg, and all with 3 drops of flavoring per 5ml. They've had a solid 3 minutes of steep time, so, let's get to it.
Black & Mild - Hmm, what an interesting flavor. Surprisingly, it does resemble a little bit of a black and mild cigar, albeit a little sweeter, chocolate? Call me crazy, but, there is something in this flavor that reminds me of Copper Creek's House blend. Not an exact duplicate, but, were I to wager, I'd say that this could be an ingredient used in that blend? Or something resembling the flavor. It's sweet on the tongue, but feels like a tobacco on the inhale, and for that, I like it.
For the sake of brevity, never my strong suit, I will move on to the next blend, and try to keep these short-ish
Old Captain - Nice. Very smooth tobacco. This is a good one to get that burn while exhaling through the nose (To note: When I hit on my vaporizer, I tend to puff 3-4 consecutive puffs, exhaling through the nose at times before taking my final inhale and exhale through the trachea. Depending on the blend used, it can create a nice burning feeling in the nasal that replicates that harshness with OG <Original gansta> smoking). I can't really think of something to liken this flavor to, though I will say that this could make a very good mixer tobacco. It holds that feeling of traditional smoking, without the nasty flavor of actually burning something. Not bad, I say.
B&H - I've read that people get chocolate out of this blend, though, I am having a little difficulty tasting that. I will say that I have had tobaccos in the past, though I cannot remember them, that taste similar to this. Relatively robust, distinctive taste. Sort of spicy. I don't quite know about this one as of now. It's vapeable, but, I can't envision using it as an all day flavor.
All in all, they're not bad. I am revisiting the Black and Mild right now, and it's starting to remind me of a certain element in HHV tobaccos, but it's also reminding me of the CC House Blend. I believe there to be something similar within these blends. Or, my taste cells are playing games with me. If I had to guess, I would say it's the 'chocolate' element that's giving off that taste. Though, that makes little sense to me, because I taste HHV tobacco in Asian RY4
Also, I do not know if the Black and Mild would be a suitable base for a Boba's replica, though, I will put the coconut in it later to see how it shapes up.
Out of these, the B&H is probably my least favorite. Black and Mild has some really nice elements to it, but, I can't shake the little hint of HHV, thus making Old Captain my favorite out of these three flavors. Since I've got to go to work, I will work on these flavors later, retrying them to see if I can figure out what might go good with them.
More on this, and the Boba's clone, later on. Thanks for reading!
Also, can someone recommend the absolute best cream there is out there? I've an idea for a blend, but I need something creamy, and without harsh, nastiness to it!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Well the Apple pie has steeped 15 days and it's pretty tasty, a nice change from the Butterscotch and Double RY4 I seem to be stuck on.
I just added a couple more drops to the 5ml bottle and 3 drops of Caps CDS, mom's apple pie always had a lot of cinnamon sugar.
Steeping did change it, the green apple taste I got when first mixed has mellowed to a much sweeter apple flavor.
" Dont tell Levitas! "
Also have 5ml of M-type with a born on date of 11/29 that I havent touched yet!
I just added a couple more drops to the 5ml bottle and 3 drops of Caps CDS, mom's apple pie always had a lot of cinnamon sugar.
Steeping did change it, the green apple taste I got when first mixed has mellowed to a much sweeter apple flavor.
" Dont tell Levitas! "
Also have 5ml of M-type with a born on date of 11/29 that I havent touched yet!
It might not be from this thread, sorry Levitas, I forget who posted a recipe the other day for a Boba's Clone...
Anyway, the Boba clone that I've been working on...I added some TPA Raisin (diluted first by making a 3ml batch with just 3 drops of Raisin in it (yes...it's THAT freakin strong IMO lol) It give Boba's clone that touch of something I thought it was missing.
Have you or anyone else try adding diluted Raisin?
Anyway, the Boba clone that I've been working on...I added some TPA Raisin (diluted first by making a 3ml batch with just 3 drops of Raisin in it (yes...it's THAT freakin strong IMO lol) It give Boba's clone that touch of something I thought it was missing.
Have you or anyone else try adding diluted Raisin?
I have that flavoring, but no, I haven't tried diluting it, let alone using it in the Boba's clone. In fact, I haven't even made the clone yet... time to get to work.
I agree though, the Raisin is very strong.
Don't get sweetcream. Its not creamy at all, it just tastes/smells like butter.
Have you tried whip cream? It tastes/smells completely different than sweetcream.
Its slightly artificial tasting but its decent; better than SC imo.
Lately I have enjoyed FA Fresh Cream and that is exactly what it delivers. Vienna and Bavarian don't have a true cream taste to it and can really swing some flavors in one direction or the other. Not that they are bad but each of those have a unique cream taste to themselves but not just a neutral type cream I was looking for. Fresh Cream will mellow out a flavor a bit so if you like a flavor at a certain level and add the FC to it you might need to bump up some flavors to compensate.
Anyway, the Boba clone that I've been working on...I added some TPA Raisin (diluted first by making a 3ml batch with just 3 drops of Raisin in it (yes...it's THAT freakin strong IMO lol) It give Boba's clone that touch of something I thought it was missing.
Have you or anyone else try adding diluted Raisin?
Good stuff on the raisin! I'll have to order it on my next splurge
Levitas: glad you got your VZ flavors cooking. What concentration did you mix things at?
I have to say black and mild was a favorite of mine and then I ODed on it and can't seem to enjoy it anymore. I really do taste tobacco, quite a bit, but the chocolate and banana notes that I used to enjoy are more of a source of queasiness than anything lol. I tried adding a drop of black and mild to my banana nut bread (about 4 mls left lets say) and after steeping for a few hours I tried it. That drop had taken over haha. I see what people mean when they feel black and mild was good for a Bobas mix. It's rich, it has tobacco, chocolate and something oddly like banana. But it's a different species of all three of those notes for me.
Old Cap is my favorite as I've said, but I find it dry and dominant in a way that doesn't always play nice with other flavors. I tried some banana nut bread with OC and it didn't go well lol.
On a good note I dialed TPA graham cracker back to 5ish % (I wasn't do precise with this) and now I love it. The kettle corn has calmed down enough that the rich/buttery notes are more in the foreground, even though on the whole the flavor is less in your face at lower concentration.
Don't get sweetcream. Its not creamy at all, it just tastes/smells like butter.
Have you tried whip cream? It tastes/smells completely different than sweetcream.
Its slightly artificial tasting but its decent; better than SC imo.
I had it in mind to avoid the sweet cream once I read your results from another thread
The whip cream - does it add sufficient creamy texture?
And I was about to order some Bavarian, thanks for the heads up. Also, same as above, does the (FA) Fresh Cream add sufficient creamy texture?
I mixed them all 3 drops per 5ml.
I have an idea for Old Captain, but I really want a good cream flavor to add a creamy texture to the final result. I'll say no more until I get the chance to experiment
It's TOP secret... nah, I kidd. I feel that Blueberry extra (TFA) might go really well with it. But this is due to dripping the two in the same atty. I haven't mixed a bottle yet, but I really think that a cream would do it justice. I will, of course, report any results. I haven't played with that flavor in a while. It's sometimes overwhelming. Gathering all of these flavors, trying new ones, soon you start to forget the others you've had, and those could potentially make a blend work!
Its exactly what it does but like I said it does dull the flavor a very tiny bit. It does give the mix some body as well as that creamy blend.Bavarian cream is always good to have on hand though.
It might not be from this thread, sorry Levitas, I forget who posted a recipe the other day for a Boba's Clone...
Anyway, the Boba clone that I've been working on...I added some TPA Raisin (diluted first by making a 3ml batch with just 3 drops of Raisin in it (yes...it's THAT freakin strong IMO lol) It give Boba's clone that touch of something I thought it was missing.
Have you or anyone else try adding diluted Raisin?
I have raisin what recipe are you working off of? Didn't realize raisin needed to be diluted.
They were speaking, I believe, of the Boba's Clone recipe. It consists of:
6 drops (VZ) Black and Mild
2 drops (LA) Cotton candy (ethyl maltol)
2 drops (VZ) Coconut
Though, there have been many variations since. My variation thus far is as followed:
3 drops (VZ) Black and Mild
2 drops (VZ) Coconut
3 drops (TFA) Smooth
2/5 of a drop (FW) Cinnamon churro
1/5 of a drop (CAP) Chocolate fudge brownie
Is it Boba's? Nah. But it's not bad, in my opinion. I've almost polished off the 5mls I made yesterday, which is saying a bit for my tastes. If I don't like something, I will not vape it
I am going to alter the cinnamon, and perhaps the chocolate as well. I might change the Smooth to ethyl maltol, as called for in the original recipe. I will not, however, increase the Black and Mild, well, at least not to 6 drops. These flavorings are powerful.On another note: I have been enjoying the Old Captain as well. The only gripe I have, is the aftertaste. It's really nice though. Almost hay-like? Hard to describe, more work needed to be done. Will experiment soon with blueberry extra.
When I first tried TPA raisin it was so crazy strong, I choked LOL and then couldn't get the flavor out of my atty's etc. So I put only 3 drops of it into 4ml of my nic base with some EM sweetener. Now I use that dilution to add a slight raisin flavor to things and it is plenty of flavor for me LOL
A thread where people are working on Boba's Clone is here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/353176-my-bobas-clone-11.html
Got my order from WL today Yay! All I got was more VG, bottles, and finally! TFA Brown sugar! But now that I've the VG, I'm going to mix my first ever 30ml bottle. It's going to be Double RY4 Also, I'm mixing a travel bottle of Double RY4, though tweaked with a little brown sugar. My free sample was Blueberry Extra, which is great! Because I was almost out.
Also, put an order in High Desert today for:
-Vanilla Custard (CAP)
-Strawberries and Cream (CAP)
-Graham Cracker (CAP)
-Caramel (CAP)
-Cream Soda (FW) <- Might be interesting!
-Double Dutch Chocolate (FW) <- Still on the search!
Gonna put another order into WL once they reopen as well
Yay! All I got was more VG, bottles, and finally! TFA Brown sugar! But now that I've the VG, I'm going to mix my first ever 30ml bottle. It's going to be Double RY4 Also, I'm mixing a travel bottle of Double RY4, though tweaked with a little brown sugar. My free sample was Blueberry Extra, which is great! Because I was almost out. Also, put an order in High Desert today for:
-Vanilla Custard (CAP)
-Strawberries and Cream (CAP)
-Graham Cracker (CAP)
-Caramel (CAP)
-Cream Soda (FW) <- Might be interesting!
-Double Dutch Chocolate (FW) <- Still on the search!
Gonna put another order into WL once they reopen as well
Got my order from WL today
Also, put an order in High Desert today for:
-Vanilla Custard (CAP)
-Strawberries and Cream (CAP)
-Graham Cracker (CAP)
-Caramel (CAP)
-Cream Soda (FW) <- Might be interesting!
-Double Dutch Chocolate (FW) <- Still on the search!
Gonna put another order into WL once they reopen as well
Let us know how the cream sode tastes, I've been interested in that for a while too! If it tastes good, then I'm sure plain or with strawberry would be great.
I'm looking for a cream cheese flavor, have you seen one anywhere?
Will do. Edit to add: I actually wanted to use the Cream soda in a tobacco blend I'm conjuring
That is, if it tastes somewhat like I imagine it will. We shall see. Never seen a cream cheese, I've seen blue cheese, and cheesecake though.
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