Hula, I sincerely believe that Anthony's experience with Puros is related to his disclaimer.
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Hula, I sincerely believe that Anthony's experience with Puros is related to his disclaimer.
Me too. Puros has a lot of flavor to me, I just don't care much for it (yet, 3ml left to change my mind!)
Guevara didn't have much flavor until my mind suddenly told me it did.
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OK I did some research (Mann's influence!
) and this is what I found on the ECL product page (emphases mine):We understand that there has been some talk in regards to the El Toro products that we sell, first and foremost all of the e-liquids in our store are 100% authentic, we do not sell any counterfit e-liquid products. The HOL e-liquids that we sell are made and bottled in the UK by Mr. El Toro himself! For people that generally purchase El Toro direct from HOL with nicotine already added will notice the colour difference between our El Toro and the El Toro with nicotine. Our El Toro is clear, this is because there is no nicotine added into the liquid. All El Toro e-liquids are clear in colour (except for Guevara & Virginia Prime which we do not stock) prior to nicotine being added into the liquid. The nicotine that HOL uses does enhance the flavour of the liquid, this is a fact, the nicotine that HOL uses also changes the colour of the liquid from clear to golden brown, this is also a fact. These are things that people do not know. We are the first company in the world to receive El Toro products without nicotine. We have worked very closely with HOL to try and enhance the flavour of El Toro for the Australian vaping community. Generally El Toro e-liquids are made with 1kg of tobacco steeped in 10 litres of base liquid. All of the El Toro e-liquids that we stock have been made with 2kg of tobacco steeped in 10 litres of base liquid, hence the double flavour, we have done this to try and accommodate the no nicotine factor. We hope that this answers some questions and if there are any other questions both Ecig Life and HOL welcome you to contact us anytime. We try and do our very best for the vaping community by bringing premium quality products into Australia. We would like to thank the the people that support us.
First off, MR. El Toro? MOOOO!
But perhaps there is something to the "double flavor" process of using twice as much tobacco in the same amount of steeping liquid that is diminishing the liquid? I have only bought the Australianized version of Brasileiro from ECL and it does in fact taste exactly like the Euro full-nic version.
Anthony, if you have a spare small bottle, maybe send me a few drops of the ECL Puros when you send me my W2V stuff when it arrives? I will compare it to my Euro versions, one provided generously by Hula, the other from the Nick F group buy earlier this year.
OK I did some research (Mann's influence!
We understand that there has been some talk in regards to the El Toro products that we sell, first and foremost all of the e-liquids in our store are 100% authentic, we do not sell any counterfit e-liquid products. The HOL e-liquids that we sell are made and bottled in the UK by Mr. El Toro himself! For people that generally purchase El Toro direct from HOL with nicotine already added will notice the colour difference between our El Toro and the El Toro with nicotine. Our El Toro is clear, this is because there is no nicotine added into the liquid. All El Toro e-liquids are clear in colour (except for Guevara & Virginia Prime – which we do not stock) prior to nicotine being added into the liquid. The nicotine that HOL uses does enhance the flavour of the liquid, this is a fact, the nicotine that HOL uses also changes the colour of the liquid from clear to golden brown, this is also a fact. These are things that people do not know. We are the first company in the world to receive El Toro products without nicotine. We have worked very closely with HOL to try and enhance the flavour of El Toro for the Australian vaping community. Generally El Toro e-liquids are made with 1kg of tobacco steeped in 10 litres of base liquid. All of the El Toro e-liquids that we stock have been made with 2kg of tobacco steeped in 10 litres of base liquid, hence the “double flavour”, we have done this to try and accommodate the “no nicotine” factor. We hope that this answers some questions and if there are any other questions both Ecig Life and HOL welcome you to contact us anytime. We try and do our very best for the vaping community by bringing premium quality products into Australia. We would like to thank the the people that support us.
First off, MR. El Toro? MOOOO!
But perhaps there is something to the "double flavor" process of using twice as much tobacco in the same amount of steeping liquid that is diminishing the liquid? I have only bought the Australianized version of Brasileiro from ECL and it does in fact taste exactly like the Euro full-nic version.
Anthony, if you have a spare small bottle, maybe send me a few drops of the ECL Puros when you send me my W2V stuff when it arrives? I will compare it to my Euro versions, one provided generously by Hula, the other from the Nick F group buy earlier this year.
Nice. Nice. Nice. It is so much easier, most times, to get the scoop from the makers.
Then why do vendors such as Want2Vape say their liquids are all 55/45 and can't be altered because they have been created from the extraction process? Want2vape is one of a few. There are others but I can't remember where else I read that.
I still wouldn't use Gej in cartos. Even at 80/20, they seem thick.
I still wouldn't use Gej in cartos. Even at 80/20, they seem thick.
Yes, the second paragraph is important. I am still experimenting with the Puros I have here and I am hoping that after a couple of weeks of steeping it with some solid nicotine something brilliant will happen to the juice. Obviously something is a miss with my juice. I love all the other juices such as Gej, W2V, MOV etc, so I concur something is up with my Puros experience.
Mr Mann, it's okay, I have that effect on women. They interact with me and start thinking of 50 shades of grey..
Thanks for the offer to test my juice Scarfy but I have already mixed it with the 48mg nicotine you sent me (and some no nic PG to lower the nic levels). In fact, I did that tonight, so in the next few days I am hoping for a transformation to the liquid.
I also mixed some Edentonight in the same way.
Tonight was a big mixing night. You know all those Juice w___e doublers I got? I mixed them all tonight.
Edit: I said tonight 4 times tonight, no, make that 5 or 6? I am confused.
I also mixed some Eden
Edit: I said tonight 4 times tonight, no, make that 5 or 6? I am confused.
OK I did some research (Mann's influence!
We understand that there has been some talk in regards to the El Toro products that we sell, first and foremost all of the e-liquids in our store are 100% authentic, we do not sell any counterfit e-liquid products. The HOL e-liquids that we sell are made and bottled in the UK by Mr. El Toro himself! For people that generally purchase El Toro direct from HOL with nicotine already added will notice the colour difference between our El Toro and the El Toro with nicotine. Our El Toro is clear, this is because there is no nicotine added into the liquid. All El Toro e-liquids are clear in colour (except for Guevara & Virginia Prime which we do not stock) prior to nicotine being added into the liquid. The nicotine that HOL uses does enhance the flavour of the liquid, this is a fact, the nicotine that HOL uses also changes the colour of the liquid from clear to golden brown, this is also a fact. These are things that people do not know. We are the first company in the world to receive El Toro products without nicotine. We have worked very closely with HOL to try and enhance the flavour of El Toro for the Australian vaping community. Generally El Toro e-liquids are made with 1kg of tobacco steeped in 10 litres of base liquid. All of the El Toro e-liquids that we stock have been made with 2kg of tobacco steeped in 10 litres of base liquid, hence the double flavour, we have done this to try and accommodate the no nicotine factor. We hope that this answers some questions and if there are any other questions both Ecig Life and HOL welcome you to contact us anytime. We try and do our very best for the vaping community by bringing premium quality products into Australia. We would like to thank the the people that support us.
First off, MR. El Toro? MOOOO!
But perhaps there is something to the "double flavor" process of using twice as much tobacco in the same amount of steeping liquid that is diminishing the liquid? I have only bought the Australianized version of Brasileiro from ECL and it does in fact taste exactly like the Euro full-nic version.
Anthony, if you have a spare small bottle, maybe send me a few drops of the ECL Puros when you send me my W2V stuff when it arrives? I will compare it to my Euro versions, one provided generously by Hula, the other from the Nick F group buy earlier this year.
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All of Want2Vape's juices are set at a specific ratio, even the non-tobaccos. And the ratio varies, Paris is 95% vg, Red Pirate is 43% vg, Alcazar is 35% vg, etc.
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I knew I was making an error somewhere in the notion that all extracted juices turn out the same PG/VG ratio which is why I was tentative in my post. I am not sure where I read that and I knew it didn't make sense. Admittedly I have still a lot to understand about the various extraction processes. I was hoping to help out the poster on his question about GEJ juices in cartos.
I don't know where I got that information from. Mr Mann, now that I think about it, it may have been you who put that notion into my head when you mentioned something about knowing which of Vaperite's juices are NETS because they all have the same PG/VG ratio (around 50-50 or 55-45). I am fairly sure I read that on one of the sites as well.
How do you get a truly extracted juice when you then go and stick raw PG and VG in it? Isn't that like squeezing 100% orange Juice and then diluting it with water, which then renders it NOT 100% squeezed juice?
Also, if extractions are actually concentrates which then have PG/VG ratio mixed according to user preferences, then wouldn't the extractions be available as concentrates? The only one I know that does is My Vape Juice.
I know very little about maceration admittedly. Perhaps I should do some research.
This all belongs in the Natural tobacco thread so I am happy for any responses to go in there and to close this discussion here.
I don't know where I got that information from. Mr Mann, now that I think about it, it may have been you who put that notion into my head when you mentioned something about knowing which of Vaperite's juices are NETS because they all have the same PG/VG ratio (around 50-50 or 55-45). I am fairly sure I read that on one of the sites as well.
How do you get a truly extracted juice when you then go and stick raw PG and VG in it? Isn't that like squeezing 100% orange Juice and then diluting it with water, which then renders it NOT 100% squeezed juice?
Also, if extractions are actually concentrates which then have PG/VG ratio mixed according to user preferences, then wouldn't the extractions be available as concentrates? The only one I know that does is My Vape Juice.
I know very little about maceration admittedly. Perhaps I should do some research.
This all belongs in the Natural tobacco thread so I am happy for any responses to go in there and to close this discussion here.
VapeRite and GeJ all make 50/50 NETs. 50/50 is a common suggested ratio for other vendor's NETs, and 70/30 is also suggested for those that have customizeable options.
Yes, this statement is absolutely true. Lol
Yes, Vaperite offers there NETs in one ratio. All that means is that Vaperite offers there NETs in one ratio.
Yes, vendors could sell the concentrated extract. They could also sell the concentrate of ALL of their ejuices, but most of them don't.
If you vaped pure extract, you would get very little, if any, nic. So like all ejuice the flavoring needs to be diluted with nic-juice, which is available in pg and vg. The extract would also be as pleasant to vape as any other extract or concentrate.
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In my humble and worthless opinion, I think this thread should be closed. There is a lot of good NT material on this thread that is not being cataloged on the NT thread. And it's not like it is attracting a lot of new people. The discussions are being volleyed by the same NT crowd.
Likewise.
I'm not even much of a tobacco vaper, but I love listening in on ya'll. So interesting!
People who read stuff don't necessarily post.
The magnitude and experience in this topic is something gained over time, a lot of testing, comparing, etc. Not knowledge you get overnight. Therefore....... It is a highly valuable topic....
Most people who do not have this experience are not going to post, they would be intimidated. I'm kinda old enough ECF member now, I will still enter a topic like this just to give a high five.
Still open then. We can discuss the awards or anything else. Glad somebody else likes it.
We can be a little TMZ, full of awards-show gossip.
I am honestly surprised that The Plume Room didn't do better. I of course voted for Candied Cavendish as best fruit NET, because it is one of the pillars of my life. You know how on Game of Thrones they worship The Seven? "Father, Smith, Warrior, Mother, Maiden, Crone, Stranger"? I have my own Faith of the Seven... "Serendipity, Candied Cavendish, Dragon's Fire, Patriot, Maple Burley, Brasileiro and Gorilla Juice". LOL. Any of those get down to critical levels and I get antsy. Candied Cavendish gets ordered in 50ml bottles.
We can be a little TMZ, full of awards-show gossip.
I am honestly surprised that The Plume Room didn't do better. I of course voted for Candied Cavendish as best fruit NET, because it is one of the pillars of my life. You know how on Game of Thrones they worship The Seven? "Father, Smith, Warrior, Mother, Maiden, Crone, Stranger"? I have my own Faith of the Seven... "Serendipity, Candied Cavendish, Dragon's Fire, Patriot, Maple Burley, Brasileiro and Gorilla Juice". LOL. Any of those get down to critical levels and I get antsy. Candied Cavendish gets ordered in 50ml bottles.
Still open then. We can discuss the awards or anything else. Glad somebody else likes it.
We can be a little TMZ, full of awards-show gossip.
I am honestly surprised that The Plume Room didn't do better. I of course voted for Candied Cavendish as best fruit NET, because it is one of the pillars of my life. You know how on Game of Thrones they worship The Seven? "Father, Smith, Warrior, Mother, Maiden, Crone, Stranger"? I have my own Faith of the Seven... "Serendipity, Candied Cavendish, Dragon's Fire, Patriot, Maple Burley, Brasileiro and Gorilla Juice". LOL. Any of those get down to critical levels and I get antsy. Candied Cavendish gets ordered in 50ml bottles.
I voted for TPR, but it was for the arti-bacco category. Honey-Fig is an awesome NET from them, along with your Candied Cavendish. I think the latest fans of Ahlusion's Dulce Cubanito might like TPR's Cuban Cigar. The brief taste I had of DC reminded me so much of that. I've been checking the website occasionally hoping to see the arti-bacco I loved, Smooth & Mild, as the flavor of the week (30ml for $11) but they've been closed a LOT for the last several months for various reasons.
Even though I wasn't blown away by any of the NETs, they were enjoyable and interesting. I'd buy any new NETs Andrea releases.
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