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bunch of marketing crap.
first it was one crap, then when that wasn't working it changed to another crap.
The next "Big" step in vaping
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bunch of marketing crap.
first it was one crap, then when that wasn't working it changed to another crap.
Agreed...they say it was to take the thought process out of what kind of battery to use. To me it only cripples the newbs even more. I mean no disrespect to newb, we all had to learn at some point. It just slightly annoying that some do not take the time to research what that are getting into. They way a thing that they can blow clouds with. I spent countless hours reading and watching tutorials learning about vaping. Would you hand over the keys to a formula 1 car to someone who just got their license?
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It's kind of like a cheap ZNA copy, but with the ZNA if your chip/board goes you can turn the battery module into a mech; with the Disrupter, if the chip side goes, you just have a battery section which is worthless unless you buy another...
Regardless, Innokin has a huge Fan following that seems to approve of their decisions. Probably a lot of ECF member that have a different opinion than yours.
Cripples the Newbs?
Seriously?
You mean the people that don't know a battery from an atomizer yet?
If you bothered to have a look at Innokins innovation releases, they are building a whole line around this concept. All using the same spec battery.
The TC Mod is almost ready to be released.
While I prefer my 18650 mods, those that want simple can have it and have a backup battery for emergencies. Plug-n-play is not a new concept and it often works well.
Oh yea, judgmental much?
Can't assume people are all clueless just because they are new. Nor can you assume this is geared toward first time vapers.
I personally would hope the next best thing deals with the uncertainties surrounding our liquids.
It be nice already if the medical field could put some clear facts out there on current components so we (and the media) can stop bickering about them.
Wouldn't it be great if your screen could show the chemical analysis of your liquid? Or even simpler, yeah you good to vape this vs which chemical spil was cleaned by packiging this batch of eliquid.
It be nice already if the medical field could put some clear facts out there on current components so we (and the media) can stop bickering about them.
Wouldn't it be great if your screen could show the chemical analysis of your liquid? Or even simpler, yeah you good to vape this vs which chemical spil was cleaned by packiging this batch of eliquid.
Try searching on something like "why aren't batteries improving" and you'll get a bunch of articles that don't answer the question. This improves if you add the word physics. Here is a nice peice by somebody at Princton U. I think the short answer is, there isn't going to be a better battery. Live with it. Workshopsbatteries/battery_workshop.pdf
A good plenty of the portable camera OEM's (much like the camcorder makers) as well as just about ALL the portable power tool makers have this concept down and functional in their products.
If the user IS going to have to swap batteries on a regular basis why not make it easy for them? Why not give them a simple to use charger and battery pack along with the device? (I have a few cordless drills, a 'weed wacker' and a handful of cameras which use this basic concept.
Drop by just about any construction site and you'll find a 'designated charging spot' where various OEM chargers are plugged into a power source.
While the OEM branded battery packs used for some devices are silly expensive - they don't have to be - give me a few empty quick change cases that fit 2x18650's and I'll be good to go.
Regardless, Innokin has a huge Fan following that seems to approve of their decisions. Probably a lot of ECF member that have a different opinion than yours.
I am sure Innokin has a huge Fan following.
Apparently the definition of Fan that you are using is someone who just 'approves' of anything Innokin does whether good or bad.
Innokin produces quality products and has been and continues to be innovative, but blind supporters you just 'approve' of anything aren't doing Innokin any favors.
And of course a lot of ECF members have a different opinion than mine. A lot of ECF members have a different opinion than any one ECF member.
100% agree.
I simply see the concept behind the Quick change battery
Simplistic
Safe
Durable
Minimal chance of ever accidentally shorting.
No chance of reverse installation.
Quick lock in/ pull out design
Even comes in Mood optional colors
* I've never owned any Innokin products
100% agree.
I simply see the concept behind the Quick change battery
Simplistic
Safe
Durable
Minimal chance of ever accidentally shorting.
No chance of reverse installation.
Quick lock in/ pull out design
Even comes in Mood optional colors
* I've never owned any Innokin products
I own a Disrupter.
If 50w is enough then IMHO BY FAR the best mod currently sold.
The future is full of promise of coarse but as of this typing I can't see any reason for any other mod to be sold for those not wanting TC and 50w being enough.
I'd no more use 18650 batteries at this point then plow my fields with horses.
I'm looking forward to some long-term research, where we can find out exactly what are the long-term effects of vaping. Hopefully they are minimal or non-existent and we can put to rest all of the fear mongering.
100% agree.
I simply see the concept behind the Quick change battery
Simplistic
Safe
Durable
Minimal chance of ever accidentally shorting.
No chance of reverse installation.
Quick lock in/ pull out design
Even comes in Mood optional colors
* I've never owned any Innokin products
That pic shows the battery compartment right?
Maybe a pic of the battery itself might illustrate what you are trying to describe.
The first I heard of the disrupter it was partly about a tc tank with special/proprietary fittings; then later on, it seemed they dropped that, and emphasied the battery more.
I forget what they called the battery.
If they wanted to make a change to the battery, they could just get rid of the can design of the typical 18650 and insulate the negative from the cylinder as is done with the little 1 inch long 12volt "23AE" type of battery.
* I too have never owned any Innokin product ,..... wait!! aha! I have the Ucan! but by the time I got that 10ml was too small for me.
I always was intrigued by the DRV, and the SVD, and the VTR; actually I almost got a VTR early on but the guy I was ordering from at the time had already sold his last one
just tried to find decent pics of the innocell.
bottom line, so far seems to be a non standard size battery
and it's a lipo
all I keep seeing is thumbs down.
Where did I say that a newb can't tell the difference between a battery and an atomizer? What does that have to do with anything?
I am implying that "some" newbs put no thought into what they are doing and that is a fact. How is that judgmental?
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You did so while bashing a manufacturer - judgmental
Some Newbs are going to do such no matter what is on the market.
How many jump on Rice Rockets every year, no matter how strong the safety warnings.
You cannot blame manufacturers for peoples ignorance to their own lack of logical thought.
Product Cross up - Disrupter now and dedicated TC coming soon. They are however working on an adapter for non-specific 510 tanks for the TC mod.
I think tank design has sort of hit a wall. All the tanks have used the Kayfun design (except with bigger juice channels and airflow) for a while now. All of the "sub-ohm" tanks coming out are all pretty good, but all the same design. No one is really innovating there as far as I see. Back in the day, you would have one or two tanks that were good and then you'd have a bunch of crap. I sorta miss those days as it seemed companies were trying a lot of ideas. Most everything today is streamlined, which is good in a way, but also boring.
I can't predict the next phase, but I can tell you what I want the next phase to be: Smaller devices that still have power and good battery life. However, this will probably be outside of the vaping industry's control and will rely on better battery technology. This is precisely the road the computer industry went down (smaller devices that are more powerful than previous generations) and I hope vaping follows that path. Of course, we will always be limited to how small we can go due to the simple physics of coils (you need bigger coils for more vapor). But the way I see it, there's still a lot of unnecessary space. Devices could definitely be smaller.
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