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The Next Big thing.... Porous Ceramic Wicks

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MikeE3

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I don't have my DID in yet to try it, but I wonder if a rubber or plastic sleeve similar to those we use in the SGv3s would provide some cushion to the ceramic wick?

Not sure about your idea - but from my limited experience - nothing short of a Zero Gravity room will protect these things.
 

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Please let use know how it goes. What grit will you be testing out? I also wonder how a diamond wheel will hold up. I think it will do a good job, b/c that's what they use to cut them in the first place. It will be interesting to see. I don't know if your able to a video, but it sure would awesome to see it being cut and shaped. Keep up the good work!!!!
Nice vid, Mike! :2cool:
I actually picked up a brand new wetstone (knife sharpening stone) for doing just what you had in your vid. Ran out of time last night to do anything but plan on my first attempt this weekend...hope my skills are up to it.
 

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FYI... i don't know how true it is, but I was just told by 3 different PetSmart stores that once these are gone, they're gone... they are no longer carrying this item in the stores... so if you find them... might want to buy all they have...

rut-roh! Maybe that's why the 1st store said they used to carry them, but when they restocked they didn't carry them any more. May have to go to the 2nd store and buy up some more.
 

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FYI... i don't know how true it is, but I was just told by 3 different PetSmart stores that once these are gone, they're gone... they are no longer carrying this item in the stores... so if you find them... might want to buy all they have...

Topfin is a PetSmart Brand so they should know.

Honestly, I would never use any of their store brand stuff in any of my aquariums because it is usually really crappy quality, at least for it's intended use.
 

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Please let use know how it goes. What grit will you be testing out? I also wonder how a diamond wheel will hold up. I think it will do a good job, b/c that's what they use to cut them in the first place. It will be interesting to see. I don't know if your able to a video, but it sure would awesome to see it being cut and shaped. Keep up the good work!!!!

The stone is a cheap 2-sided one with "coarse and fine" :D:D

The only vid cams I have are my phone, my webcam (requires the 'puter) and a Contour HD (wide-angle lens not well suited to plain video). I'll see what I can do with my phone :glare:

EDIT: The reason I went with the wetstone is because it is a large, flat surface that I figured would make it easier to get the final product truer and rounder (EDIT EDIT: well, truer anyway). I would imagine that a diamond wheel would work fine...that's what Dan uses for all his shaping (but he has the hands of a surgeon). I actually have some diamond wetsones somewhere...see if can't locate them and see what they'll do (if they're big enough).
 
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Nice process. I gotta get me one of those 'go/no go' gauge plates. That would be choice.

EDIT: Guess I could easily make one. What am I thinking? LOL

Here's a quickie vid of how I finish off the ceramic wick. Finished size is .120 inches, just under 1/8".
 
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It's all good. Using a water stone for knife sharpening is an awesome idea. Did you attempt to torch it yet to make sure it won't burn?


EDIT: Also about the diamond water stones, be careful that they don't destroy your diamond wheel.
The stone is a cheap 2-sided one with "coarse and fine" :D:D

The only vid cams I have are my phone, my webcam (requires the 'puter) and a Contour HD (wide-angle lens not well suited to plain video). I'll see what I can do with my phone :glare:
 
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Maybe on Monday if I remember, I will try to call Petsmart corporate to find out if this is true.
FYI... i don't know how true it is, but I was just told by 3 different PetSmart stores that once these are gone, they're gone... they are no longer carrying this item in the stores... so if you find them... might want to buy all they have...
 

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Scott, in answer to your question about "did I torch it": Yes...and no. I hit it with my mini-torch on a corner of the stone on both sides and, although I had hell getting it to glow at all because of the mass of the thing, I did not get any fumes, melt down, or crumbling. I have not yet cut out a chunk I could really test with...we'll see.

I can't really take credit for the idea...someone mentioned it earlier in this thread...way back som'ers.
 

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Scott, in answer to your question about "did I torch it": Yes...and no. I hit it with my mini-torch on a corner of the stone on both sides and, although I had hell getting it to glow at all because of the mass of the thing, I did not get any fumes, melt down, or crumbling. I have not yet cut out a chunk I could really test with...we'll see.

I can't really take credit for the idea...someone mentioned it earlier in this thread...way back som'ers.

is it Porous though?
 

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Update on some Ceramic Wick Testing

I drilled out my AGA to a 1/8 inch hole to fit a bigger wick (~1/8 inch) I wrapped a kanthal A-1 28g 5/6 coil for 1.2 ohms. The earlier 2.3mm wick as previously described was a bit lacking in terms of wicking rate.

So I was a bit surprised, the 1/8 inch wick is completely vapable up to 14 watts. But satisfaction depends upon your defined vape style, At 14 watts I could only do a two pull and then got a dry hit. After the two pulls, the wick needed about 10 seconds to full refresh to get back to another two pull hit without getting dry (not quite burnt) At 11.4 watts, I could do 5 consecutive pulls, then dry hit. At 9.1 watts, I went non-stop for 10 pulls and then had to stop cause I was about to fall over… My two pull vape takes about 10 seconds in total.

After a short resuscitation period, I went to cap off tests.

At three different power levels, I tested for time to first red coil, waited 5 seconds, then time to second red coil, waited 5 second, then time to third red coil.

At 9.1 watts, it could run for 13 seconds, then 6 seconds, then 5 seconds.
At 11.4 watts, it could run for 12 seconds, then 4 seconds, then 5 seconds.
At 14 watts, it could run for 9 seconds, then 4 seconds, then 4 seconds.

Not bad at all for a 20 cent piece of petstore ceramic and about a ½ hour of wet grinding on a diamond wheel. :) Hopefully the next sample material can increase the juice refresh rate to equal mesh. But overall this is definitely a keeper.

I pre-formed the coil using a 7/64 drill bit (Petar K Style), then released tension at the both connections, then threaded the ~1/8 ceramic wick and re-tighten all coils using a finger on top of the wick for stabilization. No break-in period.

 
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