Bored out a CHID to 1/8" like others have done and made a wick to fit it. That made all the difference. Very, very nice!
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The Next Big thing.... Porous Ceramic Wicks
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Are there any handy boys willing to whip up a few wicks for me, I believe this process is above the skills of my butter knife screwdriver (woman's fix everything tool). I will happily pay for the honey do.
Your not the only one with this issue. I'm sure someone will be willing to help you out. I tried to cut the stone anyhow, but failed miserably and made a huge mess. There are awesome people here, so I have no doubt help will come.
@overall, hmmmm...I'll think about it...if I get faster at it. The first one took me about 45 minutes (.... retention has its dark side). EDIT: @Scott also
Can't remember who was trying it and I don't recall if they followed up but I went ahead and made the head of the wick larger just so I could go that route if I wanted...I've got plenty of length to go all 1/8 if I decide on that. So here's my first attempt. This is the airstone (gawd I hate phone cameras):
Next, the coarse wetstone.
BTW: did it all on the grinder (after I dressed its face to get it nice and flat). No need for the diamond wetstones for "detail" work.
Can't remember who was trying it and I don't recall if they followed up but I went ahead and made the head of the wick larger just so I could go that route if I wanted...I've got plenty of length to go all 1/8 if I decide on that. So here's my first attempt. This is the airstone (gawd I hate phone cameras):
Next, the coarse wetstone.
BTW: did it all on the grinder (after I dressed its face to get it nice and flat). No need for the diamond wetstones for "detail" work.
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Dizz that is quiet impressive...The step you added was what I was thinking...Should hold more juice and maybe gain a little resistence as well..Scuba said performance picked up with the 1/8..So if bigger is better.....I'm not sure at this point how far a DID can be over bored...Surely stuffing the largest wick possible in there will further enhance the vapage.....A larger diameter would be less fragile as well...
I am seriously impressed DizGrizz.
I can't wait to see how the whetstone goes as we actually have those in Oz.
RC
I can't wait to see how the whetstone goes as we actually have those in Oz.
RC
That "rocks"! 
Thanks so much for the kind words Ravenscroft and Oh Evel One.
Well, first thing I have to report is that the coarse wet stone is much, MUCH harder than the air stone. I had to shift to my other grinder with a coarser, harder wheel on it to work this one. I did come back to the softer wheel for the final few 64ths and it took a good 20 minutes there! I get the feeling it's quite a bit stronger as well but I don't have any way to really quantify that (sure as hell wouldn't want to destroy my wicks to find out).
Just went straight on this one since it's shorter. Here's what she looks like in all her blurry glory...
I think the white specks are just a reflections off some of the crystals. Yes, that's my palm.
Gonna hold off on the fine grit wet stone chunk until later this weekend. For now, time to boil my new wicks and bore out one of my mini Chids.
Well, first thing I have to report is that the coarse wet stone is much, MUCH harder than the air stone. I had to shift to my other grinder with a coarser, harder wheel on it to work this one. I did come back to the softer wheel for the final few 64ths and it took a good 20 minutes there! I get the feeling it's quite a bit stronger as well but I don't have any way to really quantify that (sure as hell wouldn't want to destroy my wicks to find out).
Just went straight on this one since it's shorter. Here's what she looks like in all her blurry glory...
I think the white specks are just a reflections off some of the crystals. Yes, that's my palm.
Gonna hold off on the fine grit wet stone chunk until later this weekend. For now, time to boil my new wicks and bore out one of my mini Chids.
As for the coil itself it is unfortunately the opposite. A 2mm coil will vape a lot better compared to a 3mm coil in a RDA or a Vivi Nova. I believe that is one of the reasons why the Scubabatdan's coil-in-......-of-a-stone worked well.
I believe same goes for MISTer E's "Spin E" coil:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/346524-spin-e-coil-sure-coil-e-wind-e.html
You may well be correct, mrelwood. I'm trying to figure out how to test both without cutting either end off...have not come up with a way yet 
EDIT: BTW, mrelwood...I think you can take the "Newbie to ECF" out of your signature now...surely you are no longer a noob after a year
EDIT: BTW, mrelwood...I think you can take the "Newbie to ECF" out of your signature now...surely you are no longer a noob after a year
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You may well be correct, mrelwood. I'm trying to figure out how to test both without cutting either end off...have not come up with a way yet
Wouldn't you be able to file one end of the wick thinner for the coil, and then just flip the wick for a thicker coil?
EDIT: BTW, mrelwood...I think you can take the "Newbie to ECF" out of your signature now...surely you are no longer a noob after a year
Oh, so true! Forgot about that.
D Thanks!
Nice vid, Mike!
I actually picked up a brand new wetstone (knife sharpening stone) for doing just what you had in your vid. Ran out of time last night to do anything but plan on my first attempt this weekend...hope my skills are up to it.
what stone and where did you pick these up?
Yep - I'll doing more fooling/testing this today and let you know the results. I'd like to re-do my other ZAP with the same diameter wick and add another 'wrap' or 2 of coil and see how more wire around the wick effects vapor production too. This would be the time to try that as I have two wicks that match in diameter. (I'm hesitant to break that 1st rule of geny's and take this one apart).
I wish that were true, but in the diameter range we're working w/ I don't think we'll over come how fragile it is. Having the wick a bit loose in the wick hole did alow me to 'lean' it slightly to minimize the positive lead's length in open air.
Has anyone tried it with the ribbon Nichrome yet? More surface thermal bridge might dry out the wick faster but if not I'd think you could use less volt/watt.
DizzGrizz- nice idea using wetstone. I'm a chef and use these things to sharpen my tools all the time. I know that they, especially the japanese stones, are made to release particulate that, when mixed with water, creates a polishing/sharpening paste. This makes me wonder if they're sintered. You mentioned they are harder so I'd think they were.
DizzGrizz- nice idea using wetstone. I'm a chef and use these things to sharpen my tools all the time. I know that they, especially the japanese stones, are made to release particulate that, when mixed with water, creates a polishing/sharpening paste. This makes me wonder if they're sintered. You mentioned they are harder so I'd think they were.
Thx from germany Scubabatdan 
Was in a petshop and i think i found something
Hope this one works good for me, sice i did not find the one you were talking about....
Was in a petshop and i think i found something
Hope this one works good for me, sice i did not find the one you were talking about....
for those across the pond...OR did someone say coop? Other than these folks, I only found asian suppliers for our size requirements. It might be a waste of time but i'm looking for a wick with known material. Anyways, here's a link
Other Porous Ceramic Products
Other Porous Ceramic Products
Works surprisingly well. Took a few mins for the new wick to equal the well used one. Applied 6 wraps of 34 Ni to each one. It was pretty easy to duplicate the coils. Cool thing is that my ProVari, ZMax, and Vamo can all handle the 1.4 ohms no problem. Takes like 3 secs to heat up to full bore though. Sure does suck up the juice...
Well... I made another 2 wicks last night and I'm happy to report that I didn't break the first one. LOL I made them 1/8" for my D20 this time.
I took my time making these this time around and they came out much better than my first attempt. I still had trouble getting my coil tight to the wick but I eventually got her so it doesn't have any hot spots.
I've gone through a full tank so far and I have mixed feelings. I made a 3/4 with 34 Kantahl and it's at 2.5 ohms. I wanted it this high so I could have more play room on my Provari V1 to experiment a little at different watts. For my juice that I vape 100% of the time for the past 1.5 years I have learned that I like it at about 6.5 to 8 watts depending on my mood. I've been vaping this set-up at 4.2v for the first tank full and the flavor is pretty good but the vapor is almost nonexistent and very little TH. I'm going to crank it up for the next tank full and see how it goes. I have noticed a slight improvement the more I vape it so hopefully she'll start singing.
I will say that I love the fact that you don't have to worry about shorts that seem to randomly appear with SS wicks.
I think after this next tank if it's not stellar I might redo my coil like someone else had mention where they rolled the coil undersized on a drill bit then threaded the Stone wick into it. This might make the coil fit even tighter than what mine is.
I took my time making these this time around and they came out much better than my first attempt. I still had trouble getting my coil tight to the wick but I eventually got her so it doesn't have any hot spots.
I've gone through a full tank so far and I have mixed feelings. I made a 3/4 with 34 Kantahl and it's at 2.5 ohms. I wanted it this high so I could have more play room on my Provari V1 to experiment a little at different watts. For my juice that I vape 100% of the time for the past 1.5 years I have learned that I like it at about 6.5 to 8 watts depending on my mood. I've been vaping this set-up at 4.2v for the first tank full and the flavor is pretty good but the vapor is almost nonexistent and very little TH. I'm going to crank it up for the next tank full and see how it goes. I have noticed a slight improvement the more I vape it so hopefully she'll start singing.
I will say that I love the fact that you don't have to worry about shorts that seem to randomly appear with SS wicks.
I think after this next tank if it's not stellar I might redo my coil like someone else had mention where they rolled the coil undersized on a drill bit then threaded the Stone wick into it. This might make the coil fit even tighter than what mine is.
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