A doctor's opinion is just that. They don't go to school to study that stuff. Did you ever ask yourself why they leave the room and come back? It's not just to see other patients it's to jump on the internet real quick and try to diagnose you. Then they come back and say "it's probably this... we'll give you this to TRY (because we're paid to) and we'll check your progress (i.e. try again) in a couple weeks." Doctoring is not a science it's a probabilities game. I've worked with doctors and some of them are borderline idiots with expensive educations and thier drug choices are made mostly for the money. What you need is a scientist. Scientists use empirical evidence to prove their theories 100% every time.
The doctors I'm talking about are all scientists, and considered among the experts in their field...
--Dr Carl Phillips, epidemiologist, Associate Professor at the University of Alberta Department of Public Health Sciences
--Dr Joel Nitzkin, Chair, Tobacco Control Task Force, American Association of Public Health Physicians
--Dr Brad Rodu, Endowed Chair in Tobacco Harm Reduction Research at the University of Louisville’s James Graham Brown Cancer Center
--Dr Michael Siegel, Professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences, Boston University School of Public Health
Just to name a few.
Nicotine contains tobacco-specific nitrosamines are known to be carcinogens.
That is technically incorrect.
Nicotine does not contain nitrosamines, tobacco contains nitrosamines.
There are, however, trace levels of some nitrosamines in extracted nicotine liquid, which comes along with the extraction process.
The amount of nitrosamines present in the nicotine liquid we use is about the same amount as is in the nicotine patch.
And that level is so low as to pose essentially no risk.
A thimbleful of nicotine (60mg for the average adult) can kill you. That's reason enough to single it out. A thimbleful of water or salt will not kill you.
No, it's not reason enough.
Any scientist will tell you the dose makes the poison, which means anything is a poison.
The next time someone drinks a thimbleful of nicotine you can let me know.
In the meantime, read this...
Vocalek said:
These people have been brainwashed by all the propaganda about "fatal doses" of nicotine. They take the dose of nicotine thought to be fatal, compare it to the total amount of nicotine in a container, and conclude that the contents of the container would kill a child if ingested. What really happens is that the nicotine triggers vomiting, which eliminates the vast majority of nicotine from the system. Nicotine that isn't in the system cannot kill the child.
During the past 27 years, the only child death related to tobacco involved a child that had both cigarettes and Valium in his system. Perhaps the Valium suppressed the body's natural defense mechanism against nicotine poisoning. Or perhaps the Valium itself killed the child.
The majority of cases require no medical treatment whatsoever. For example in 2009, out of 8,774 tobacco exposures, 1602 cases were treated in a medical facility, and only 4 cases were considered "Major". Of 1,307 pharmaceutical nicotine exposures, 315 were treated in a medical facility, and 2 cases were considered Major. There were no Deaths in either category.
As a "poison" that is pretty darn ineffective if you ask me.
And yet, there have been many deaths from drinking salt water.
Look, if you want to warn people about what you think are the dangers from nicotine, that's fine.
And if you want to continue to ignore any potential health benefits that people may be receiving, that's fine.
But I take strong exception to what I consider to be nothing more than fear-mongering on your part, even if you're not doing it on purpose.
And I completely disagree with you that it is in everyone's best interest to get off of nicotine as soon as possible.
And just as you can state your opinion, I can state mine.
And just as you can think my opinion is irresponsible, I can think the same of yours.
I think everyone should make their own decisions, and not be told what THEY need to do based on propaganda alone.
And it is my opinion that is exactly what you're doing.
