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O.C.D.MakesMeDoIt

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I'm just very confused. I've reached out to both admins and not received any response.

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I contacted one admin. Also no reply yet, not that I really expect one. Perhaps they're inundated with PMs?
 

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Well, I'm going to go send my PMs through the appropriate channels, and then I think I'm takin' at least a bit of a break from ECF. I'm just sad. :( You folks all take care now.

We'll miss you, @NoFumus :cry:
 

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Thanks, but I guess I'm still here. I'm still trying to write my message, but I'm not very articulate.

And, I feel like we're holding a vigil.


We will miss you. It's the people that make this place worthwhile.
 

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And, I feel like we're holding a vigil.
We are. Where's our candles and armbands or ribbons around trees or something?
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It's the people that make this place worthwhile.
Exactly right. People make it. People break it.
 

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We will miss you. It's the people that make this place worthwhile.
That statement has stayed with me. Bothering me. Couldn't put my finger on it. Until just now... On the one hand, it's a nice sentiment to let @NoFumus know you will miss her (although I hope she reconsiders her "sabbatical"); Then your next sentiment is spot on that it's the people that make this place worthwhile.

So what is wrong with that? No offense @corn flakes, but it seems to me that if it is the people that make this place worthwhile, then is it still as worthwhile if beloved members start disappearing?

That's hitting me like a big disconnect. Sort of like saying, "We'll miss you, good luck, our lives will go on, we like you, but your absence won't effect us much. Hey, what's for dinner?" ...You see what I'm trying to say? And please understand I'm NOT "aiming" this at you @corn flakes, it's just that your post was the handiest to quote. Others have said similar things with similar sentiments. I'm not trying to pick on you or on anyone. Just trying to express something I'm having a difficult time expressing.

IMHO this has been one of the all-time great forum threads! The topic, the people, the fun, humor, the inclusion of all, the exclusion of none, the enabling, the vape porn, the camaraderie, and so on......

Now the OP who has helped so many tirelessly, seems to have been suspended or something. People are confused, angry, hurt, and whatever else. Participants are disappearing (or indicating they might). And for some reason, a particular piece of writing will not stop echoing in my head. It seems somehow relevant. Please indulge me, and also please feel free to tell me I'm out of my mind and taking things too seriously! Here goes:

"First they came ..." is a famous statement and provocative poem written by Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the cowardice of German intellectuals following the Nazis' rise to power and the subsequent purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt and responsibility.

The best-known versions of the speech are the poems that began circulating by the 1950s. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum quotes the following text as one of the many poetic versions of the speech:

“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”​


NOTE: I'm certainly NOT trying to compare Nazis or the Holocaust to this forum or anyone in it! Hey, I have OCD issues but I'm not totally off the wall out of touch with reality (much). It just seems like one of our friends has been Exiled, Abandoned. Is there anyone here she has not helped in some way? In a perfect world, we would find our friend Roxy back here tomorrow and everything back to "normal". In a perfect world. Very possible I'm making less sense than usual. Perhaps not good to mix NyQuil + Hot Toddy? :oops:
Me will just shut up now. And leave off with...




I wonder if it's possible to vape NyQuil & Hot Toddy...
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Maybe tomorrow WILL be a better day?
Just saw this on the Boreas thread, posted by Judge Dredd (Moderator):
Folks, we are looking deeper into this issue and ask your patience as we investigate. In the meantime, I'm going to temporarily lock this thread in an effort to cool things off.

Thank you
Hopefully by tomorrow this will all seem like a bad nightmare that is thankfully over.
'Nite y'all!
 

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Maybe tomorrow WILL be a better day?
Just saw this on the Boreas thread, posted by Judge Dredd (Moderator):
Hopefully by tomorrow this will all seem like a bad nightmare that is thankfully over.
'Nite y'all!

This morning, this thread has now been deleted, not temporarily closed. Seems they are intent on escalating things.
 

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This morning, this thread has now been deleted, not temporarily closed. Seems they are intent on escalating things.
I feel so out of the loop. From what I'm reading, I guess Roxy has been suspended because of her participation in designing certain RTAs and RDAs? Why? She has been a huge help to many of us here & on other threads. I'm confused, what rule of the forum is she accused of violating?


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I feel so out of the loop. From what I'm reading, I guess Roxy has been suspended because of her participation in designing certain RTAs and RDAs? Why? She has been a huge help to many of us here & on other threads. I'm confused, what rule of the forum is she accused of violating?


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17. Advertising/Selling in posts
a. You must not use this forum for advertising. Any post that seems to have been made for advertising will be deleted. Registered Suppliers may advertise subject to compliance with their specific rules. Members wanting to sell, trade and/or buy e-cigs and e-cig related items from other members may only post these items in the Classified section.
b. Shilling (commercial and/or excessive promotion) is not permitted. This includes affiliate codes/links, links to Unregistered or Banned Suppliers, and links to sites of dubious quality/content/reputation in signatures, blogs or forum posts.
c. Employees of a vendor or any person commercially affiliated with a vendor are not permitted to discuss/advertise the business or products of the vendor.
d. Pre-advertising: no business-related posts are allowed anywhere on ECF unless registered as a supplier. Potential suppliers (not yet actualized) cannot post anything business related anywhere on ECF.
 

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I see a conflict of interest kind of thing here with Roxy and her commercial endeavors. I hope everyone involved stays level headed and this is just a quick bump in the road. I'm sure Roxy can continue to post without mentioning that one area of her vape life.

I also believe that the mods should recognize Roxy's enormous contribution to this site and find a way to both forgive and move on. A failure to do so will result in a lot more than just one less member.


#Roxyrocks
 

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    Just remember that there are a lot of "registered suppliers" that pay to have a place on this forum. They are not allowed to post in these threads. Don't you wonder if maybe they have a right to say "hay, wait a minute"?

    This isn't the first time this has happened (and probably won't be the last). Most on here haven't been around long enough to remember the one year birthday thread. (ya, she was suspended too, but you can still buy juice from them)
     
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    As a member in good standing of E.A.U. (Enablers Are Us) I would like to mention that almost all the colors of the Provari 2.5 are back on sale as "blems" at $29.95.

    I hope this message Enablers others.
    Thanks for that, now you've made me want to buy a couple more, and I have only had my first Provari's for a week!:p
     

    MikeADore

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    As a member in good standing of E.A.U. (Enablers Are Us) I would like to mention that almost all the colors of the Provari 2.5 are back on sale as "blems" at $29.95.

    I hope this message Enablers others.
    You are a bad man. I had no idea they had that many colors. I have to say, I'm loving the one I got last week. It automatically took on special, favorite-juice-only status.
     

    rhelton

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    I see a conflict of interest kind of thing here with Roxy and her commercial endeavors. I hope everyone involved stays level headed and this is just a quick bump in the road. I'm sure Roxy can continue to post without mentioning that one area of her vape life.

    I also believe that the mods should recognize Roxy's enormous contribution to this site and find a way to both forgive and move on. A failure to do so will result in a lot more than just one less member.


    #Roxyrocks

    First sentence nails down the situation. They have to treat these situations all the same or its a violation of the forum rules.

    Posting without mention of that product or supplier would be a way around it like you said. Maybe they will come around to that.
     
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