The ProVari Has Ruined Everything For Me!!!

[DPLongo22]

There are even people who have gone through the trouble of putting anti Provari banners as their signatures. I can see using a signature that promotes your favorite device, but signatures declaring your dislike for a device... What's the point? What made it so crucial to convince people that a Provari isn't for them? Or any device for that matter?

You ARE lying to me, RIGHT? That CAN'T be true. CAN IT???

 

[Panorama911]

OK I am confused....which is better....The Provari or all the others?...I think I will just go back to American Spirit Blue......no WAIT... those who like Newport will say they have the best ciggy!

OK rant over.....continue on!

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

You ARE lying to me, RIGHT? That CAN'T be true. CAN IT???

I wish I were. Just saw one today on another thread. Said "Provari free zone" with a pic of a Provari crossed out like you see in no smoking signs. I can't even see why anyone would object to the price. It's not as though there aren't more affordable items out there. Provape charging what they charge isn't driving up the price of everything else. If someone can't afford to, or doesn't wish to spend that amount, there are plenty of others to choose from. I'm wondering if the signature is a left over from when Provari was one so the only choices for variable volts out there?

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Come to think of it, I wonder if this whole, ongoing, debate is because Provari was one of the only choices for variable volts out there and it was expensive? I've seen posters complain of the price for high end juice and devices, claiming that their existence is driving up the price for everything, making vaping unaffordable for a lot of people. Provape is now midrange in price from what I've seen, but if they were one of the first back in the day, and charged what they did, I can sort of see why some would have developed a hatred fore Provape in fear of them setting the price for all other, similar, products.

 

[bcalvanese]

Just another Ego Boost thread.......Nothing new to see here.

Please move along people.

Are you the ProVari Police?

Just wondering why a 1/3 dozen topic specific post (RDA/e-Juice/IGO-W/Kayfun/etc.) get moved to their specific related catagory almost Daily? Even current important Media News is shuffled off rather quickly.

Yet Provari threads, rehashing the same hash that was hashed hundreds of times before are left in the General Discussion area instead of being moved to the appropriate - APV area where they, like other devices should have been posted to begin with.

Anyone that thinks anything NEW is really being discussed needs to learn to use that little box at the upper right of the page - search

And yet you still read and post on this thread.

I'm a bit confused.
Where did I mention anything bothering me?
How is it snarky to make a simple observation?

How is my observation any less allowable than the post of those adamant there is nothing more perfect than a provari or those post vehemently opposed to such an idea?
Have I supported either conception or taken opposition?

Perhaps I simply believe this thread is no more or less special than any other and could be managed the same as those.

Now, it is possible I do not care much for people using backhanded insults to prove their assumed equipment is superior. I really do not see where a Provari owner needs to be intimidated by the comments of someone that prefers an MVP or vice verse.
I enjoy technical data and reading about advances, but pretty much loath people resorting to what amounts to little more than Boast Post to belittle others.

But hey, I had my say. It wasn't an argument or a counter to an argument. It was an observation.

Now, I'm heading back out to read more of the post on EFC and possible comment when interested enough, as is my Privilege as an ECF member.

All you are doing is trying to pick fights with other members.

Or maybe you are just angry because you know deep in your heart that the ProVari IS the most accurate, consistant, and well made device on the market, and the support is matched by no other on the planet. And, you are just too stubborn to admit it to every one...

 

[bcalvanese]

Come to think of it, I wonder if this whole, ongoing, debate is because Provari was one of the only choices for variable volts out there and it was expensive? I've seen posters complain of the price for high end juice and devices, claiming that their existence is driving up the price for everything, making vaping unaffordable for a lot of people. Provape is now midrange in price from what I've seen, but if they were one of the first back in the day, and charged what they did, I can sort of see why some would have developed a hatred fore Provape in fear of them setting the price for all other, similar, products.

I understand what you are saying, but I used to be a 3 PAD smoker, and for vaping to be unaffordable to me, it would have to cost me more than $600.00 (about the price of 3 provari kits) a month. For a 1 PAD smoker it would have to be over $200.00 (about the price of 1 provari kit) a month. After the initial cost (which would easily pay for itself in a month), it is very cheap to vape compared to smoking.

I always recommend for people to get a cheapo kit to see if vaping is going to work for them first. Once they are sure it will, put out the money to get a good device, and do research on the different toppers and get a setup that works for them. I recommend the ProVari, because I know it will give the most accurate and consistant hit (with a good topper), and the support is unmatched.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I understand what you are saying, but I used to be a 3 PAD smoker, and for vaping to be unaffordable to me, it would have to cost me more than $600.00 (about the price of 3 provari kits) a month. For a 1 PAD smoker it would have to be over $200.00 (about the price of 1 provari kit) a month. After the initial cost (which would easily pay for itself in a month), it is very cheap to vape compared to smoking.

I always recommend for people to get a cheapo kit to see if vaping is going to work for them first. Once they are sure it will, put out the money to get a good device, and do research on the different toppers and get a setup that works for them. I recommend the ProVari, because I know it will give the most accurate and consistant hit (with a good topper), and the support is unmatched.

I recommend cheaper kits to start with too, although it's usually the iTaste VVv3. Variable volt was key to my ability to vape through cigarette cravings that came on strong, and the VVv3 is comparable in price to twists so I figure why not? Then I tell them to spend the bulk of their money on juice and toppers to find the right ones first. From there, depending on budget and needs I make whatever recommendation I feel would suit them. Not always the Provari, but I hate that when it is, there's always such a debate.

 

[crxess]

Are you the ProVari Police?



And yet you still read and post on this thread.



All you are doing is trying to pick fights with other members.

Or maybe you are just angry because you know deep in your heart that the ProVari IS the most accurate, consistant, and well made device on the market, and the support is matched by no other on the planet. And, you are just too stubborn to admit it to every one...

Ignorance must be Bliss, otherwise you would know I often recommend Provari to others. For its Quality, Reliability and Provapes service.

Thread title alone is a Bate. Post, as always Degenerate into a pissing contest that has little to do with devices and much to do with self gratification.

No, had I wanted to pick any fights I would have gotten very specific.

I did notice you skipped the remark I made as to NOT supporting or opposing anyone else personal choice or opinion. However you seem to rather strongly.

Have a great day and enjoy your Vape..........However it is delivered.

 

[Singaw]

So, was this Provari under warranty?

If so, it would have been REPAIRED FOR FREE by Provape. So, it never was a $200 piece of junk, unlike that $50 mod that WAS a piece of junk because it couldn't be repaired.

Even if not still under warranty, it could have been repaired for less than $50 if you had sent it back to Provape. Provape does repairs at owner's cost for life. Again, try that with your $50 mod. Oh, that's right. You can get a whole new mod for $50. Doesn't that kind of tell you what kind of quality you are buying?

BTW. Did this actually happen to you, or was it a hypothetical situation? I've read of FAR WORSE traumatic situations that a Provari has gone through and survived.

It was no longer under warranty, a letter and pictures to Provape and they said they would fix it but the repair cost was $65 plus almost $90 for shipping round trip. I did buy a new one if that means much. They are a very good and dependable device but I prefer my mech mods by far. It just comes down to personal preference.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I was about to ask why $90, then I saw you were in the Philipines. In the USA, shipping to Provape isn't such an expense, so sending it in for repair is affordable. If shipping were $90 for me, I'd likely just buy another myself.

 

[desertrider]

Pbusardo posts all the measurements on his site as well as shows them on his reviews, and I have yet to see a device that is as accurate and consistant as the ProVari on any of the devices that he has reviewed. The ProVari put out the exact set voltage (under load & with no load) all the way down to the last puff before it shut off. Other mods were up to half a volt off on some resistances, including a DNA (20 I think) that he reviewed.

There are other mods that are close, but none (yet) that are as accurate and consistant as the ProVari.

I need a very consistant hit to keep me off the cigarettes, and so far, for me, the ProVari is the only device that can deliver that time after time after time.

Yup. It aint about opinion. Its about documented science.

/thread

 

[K_Tech]

Not even the DNA 30 devices? IMO, that's as good as they get, for now.

It really all depends how/what you vape, really. The Vicious Ant Variant (in my not-so-experienced opinion) may very well be top dog right now, but spending right near a grand for a 120 watt box mod to vape a carto tank is a little excessive. I recently watched a review on the Variant by Todd, he mentioned a few times how he vapes at like 11 watts. That's almost $900 of wasted vape!

Honestly nothing tops my REO grands for me but my provari is a very close second. I just prefer the bottom feeder as opposed to dripping all the time.

I've come SO close to dropping the hammer on a REO/RM2 combo, just waiting for the right one to catch my eye in the classifieds.

Other Provari owners happily own non provaris??

Maybe after the koolaid wears off............

I feel left out, nobody ever sent me any Koolaid with my Provari. Should I call someone?

 

[DPLongo22]

It just comes down to personal preference.

Eggs -
'zactly!

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

Let me add that I can certainly understand the ProVape loyalty. I've been using somebody's mini for 2 weeks now and the simplicity of the device combined with the build quality is nothing short of stellar.

The little guy just doesn't fit into my vaping style right now. Perhaps version 3 will.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Let me add that I can certainly understand the ProVape loyalty. I've been using somebody's mini for 2 weeks now and the simplicity of the device combined with the build quality is nothing short of stellar.

The little guy just doesn't fit into my vaping style right now. Perhaps version 3 will.

And it's fine that it doesn't. It won't for everyone. If everyone had the exact same vaping preferences and needs, we'd all have a lot less to choose from out there. What I don't understand is why specifically, Provari owners get so much flack around here. We don't have a preference for sub-ohming or high watts. For me, safety, durability and reliability were the reasons behind my choice. My preferences in this and the choice made based on those preferences do not and should not affect anyone else's vaping experience. Provape isn't ripping anyone off as far as I can tell. Their products do exactly as they state they do. I knew the limitations of a Provari before I purchased one, and I regret it not one bit. It's one thing if we were talking about a vendor making grossly exaggerated claims and slipping through loopholes to avoid honoring warranties. I don't see that with Provape. They certainly aren't voiding their warranties for using Kanger clearos like some others I won't mention are.

 

[Myrany]

And it's fine that it doesn't. It won't for everyone. If everyone had the exact same vaping preferences and needs, we'd all have a lot less to choose from out there. What I don't understand is why specifically, Provari owners get so much flack around here. We don't have a preference for sub-ohming or high watts. For me, safety, durability and reliability were the reasons behind my choice. My preferences in this and the choice made based on those preferences do not and should not affect anyone else's vaping experience. Provape isn't ripping anyone off as far as I can tell. Their products do exactly as they state they do. I knew the limitations of a Provari before I purchased one, and I regret it not one bit. It's one thing if we were talking about a vendor making grossly exaggerated claims and slipping through loopholes to avoid honoring warranties. I don't see that with Provape. They certainly aren't voiding their warranties for using Kanger clearos like some others I won't mention are.

I think alot of it comes from the threads where someone is about to get started with vaping and doesn't know if it will work for them or not and a certain segment of the Provarinati try to insist they START with a Provari. Even I think that attitude is wrong. Find out if you like vaping with a cheaper setup then step up. My opinion anyways.

 

[realsis]

Humm, guess I'm just simale because I could get a povari that is IF I really wanted to lay down that much money on a device. I personally have more fun with mech mods. And even those are clones lol. Guess it's all about what you want. I'm not into stroking my own ego, and feeling superior over others. You say you don't do that but just look at what your saying. Your saying your povari is so perfect and wonderful it's ruined everything else? That's why IIke a meh mod. The possibilities are great and basically it's only as good as the operators builds but it's a challenge and I can strive to make it better and better I'm talking about what really matters which is vaping quality, and taste. For me it's fun to try to achieve that with something I've made myself. Guess I'm strange. I don't know but the whole pavari thing seems over rated to me, yes I'm sure it's a great device but it seems more like a look at me I have a pavari kind of thing, and I'm definitely not into that. Guess this girl will stick with her simple nemisis clone.lol. like I said, maybe I'm just too simple but I'm not at all impressed! What impresses me is something someone built with their own two hands. It's just my opinion don't take offense. But not everyone wants a pavari.

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

I find it silly when you even mention a Provari in a post someone with lash out calling you a fanboi. I have a lot of devices. I have several different VV devices and several mech mods. I enjoy them all, but my favorite is my ProVaris because they are consistent, durable, and give a great Vape. I will be buying the Provari 3 when it comes out too. I still use my other devices, but my preferred device is Provari. Do I recommend it, yes. If you've used something and know its quality then why not tell others about the gem you've discovered. I don't look down on others for using other devices. My husband loves mech mods. That's his choice. He doesn't use any VV mods. He enjoys dripping so his preferred delivery method is mech mods.

I think some need to think before they comment though. There's no reason to bash others who recommend a Provari or even a Vamo. We all have our favorite devices! It's just crazy to act like children over what you like or dislike. The other day someone started a thread about losing their Provari but they didn't care because it gave dry hits. I just mentioned my Provari works fine and dry hits were more likely associated with the topper. LOL. I got called a fanboi quickly. It's just silly. Then the same person came back after I replied to say they didn't want to argue. LOL. Funny considering they started it and called me names.

I also find it humorous how the bashers also claim they have or have had a Provari. I'm about sure 99% of that is hogwash. It's a tool they use to establish credibility in their bashing efforts. Why not just be happy for others who have found their favorite devices and give your own recommendations without bashing? It seems we are all Vapers and have the same goal. Just my Vape on

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

What I don't understand is why specifically, Provari owners get so much flack around here.

It's the age old conflict that will never be explained and won't go away.

I am a fan of Apple products and although they are inferior in many ways to their counterparts... I feel the same way about them as Provari owners feel about their mod. If anyone asked me to justify my iPhone, iPad, and Macs I'd have to say the same things Provari owners say... build quality and customer service.

So I understand.

 

[etchie]

Not even the DNA 30 devices? IMO, that's as good as they get, for now.

Yeah, I've never used a Provari, but anyone I've talked to that have tried both, says DNA 30 blows it away. I have a DNA 30 chip, just haven't built anything yet.