The ProVarinati Diner & Saloon #5
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Yeah I kind of knew what your reasons were, work related.
I really was not just talking about here in the saloon but all over ECF, everyone at the same time?
KAS
yeah, Life happens other places too.
But seriously been noticing lack of interest in
vape threads all over. Figure most people have found what suits them vapewise by now. They probably don't feel the need to discuss it to death. Then you have Chief who's obsessed with the FDA lol
He will keep up busy with that.
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yeah, Life happens other places too.
But seriously been noticing lack of interest in
vape threads all over. Figure most people have found what suits them vapewise by now. They probably don't feel the need to discuss it to death. Then you have Chief who's obsessed with the FDA lol
He will keep up busy with that.
I suppose that could be part of it, I know I have learned just about everything I need to know. I wonder if the bad publicity in the news is scaring away new vapers.
I know I like ready chiefs posts about the FDA and e-cig legislation, most of it I would never see other wise.
KAS
I see the lies from the FDA, CDC, and the Surgeon General hurting vaping first hand at the plants I go to. More and more people believe vaping is worse than smoking
I see the lies from the FDA, CDC, and the Surgeon General hurting vaping first hand at the plants I go to. More and more people believe vaping is worse than smoking
Wellllll, there's no scientific proof that it's not. Just saying.
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Anyone here tried
Forbidden Donut by Nitro Labs Vapor?
They say, Flavor is :
Frosted donut on the inhale, peanut butter & chocolate candy bar exhale.
Forbidden Donut by Nitro Labs Vapor?
They say, Flavor is :
Frosted donut on the inhale, peanut butter & chocolate candy bar exhale.
The Hula Hoop fad didn't last forever either...yeah, Life happens other places too.
But seriously been noticing lack of interest in
vape threads all over. Figure most people have found what suits them vapewise by now. They probably don't feel the need to discuss it to death. Then you have Chief who's obsessed with the FDA lol
He will keep up busy with that.
Wellllll, there's no scientific proof that it's not. Just saying.
Hatemail..... and go!
Maybe you missed the report, but back in 2015 they did show some research
E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review - Press releases - GOV.UK
I was going to try it, but the FDA said if I did try it, my Battery would explode causing me to get popcorn lungAnyone here tried
Forbidden Donut by Nitro Labs Vapor?
They say, Flavor is :
Frosted donut on the inhale, peanut butter & chocolate candy bar exhale.
"expert independent evidence review/research " from a UK college professor aiint fact/proof.
Maybe you missed the report, but back in 2015 they did show some research
E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review - Press releases - GOV.UK
Research is still being done, because
they don't really have concrete evidence yet to know it as factual. Making an easy argument for the US Gov to say the opposite.
I was going to try it, but the FDA said if I did try it, my Battery would explode causing me to get popcorn lung
lol
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Yeah, I agree that England is " estimating", the real world lab rats are us current vapers and what happens to us over time"expert independent evidence review/research " from a UK college professor aiint fact/proof.
Yeah, I agree that England is " estimating", the real world lab rats are us current vapers and what happens to us over time
Many of us vapers, would love validity of vaping as a completely safer alternative.
But until then, it is completely arguable.
We just don't have all the facts on long term effects/short term effects on the human genotype. Not everyone's body will react the same. Leaves a lot of room for speculation.
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When I started out this question weighed heavily on my mind, so I did a ton of reading. On the vapers side I kept hearing repeatedly that it's perfectly safe, but from all I could find that this was just based on opinions that were extrapolated from what the base ingredients are, and what was known about ingesting them. Even assuming that the Pg and Vg are ok for inhalers, them folks don't breath in a fraction of what vapers breath in in a day.
I decided that maybe there might be some unknown risk, and made a choice to accept whatever that may or may not be, because this was my only real hope of ever staying off the smokes. I'm OK with that, because my lungs were already a mess, and I was fearful that I didn't have too many years left in me the way I was going.
My lungs are much better now, but I still have issues. Because of the damage done from smoking, I would be a poor choice to evaluate any risks from vaping, the only way to really test, would be to have never smokers monitored for many years while they vape. I don't think that's going to happen on any large scale.
I don't blindly accept either sides take on things right now, my opinion is that with a couple decades time, if there is any major risks, they will begin to show up in measurable numbers, and then assumptions and extrapolations will be more valid based on those numbers.
My wife is flying out to Denver today, three days alone in an apartment in the city...what to do...what to do?
Party like a Rock Star!
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Ya....I did Saturday nite and still feel like crap
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