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The Ocelot

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The Gold Zenkote' are $149.95 with a Zenkote matching Extension cap, and a free Blue LED upgrade!

Nah....gonna wait on the Gunmetal P3...ah heck maybe I'll get both! :D

You are correct though...P2.5 value has hit the floor big time a far a resale...

It's too bad people are missing out on the savings. I still think that if someone vapes like I do, around 1.5Ω/11w a 2.5 is just as good. The boost function is great, but if I didn't have it I wouldn't miss it. Now, when new members talk about getting a ProVari it has to be a P3 - but then, everybody needs an Atlantis this month too.
 

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It's too bad people are missing out on the savings. I still think that if someone vapes like I do, around 1.5Ω/11w a 2.5 is just as good. The boost function is great, but if I didn't have it I wouldn't miss it. Now, when new members talk about getting a ProVari it has to be a P3 - but then, everybody needs an Atlantis this month too.


You are so correct!

Ya' know I have a ZNA and I still prefer my Provari' ....or my Reo, or one of my mechs....

It's kinda like smart phones....have you ever tired to dial the phone in the sunlight on a key-less phone?

I am not old fashioned, or hate technology, but sometimes simple is a good thing! :thumb:
 

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You are so correct!

Ya' know I have a ZNA and I still prefer my Provari' ....or my Reo, or one of my mechs....

It's kinda like smart phones....have you ever tired to dial the phone in the sunlight on a key-less phone?

I am not old fashioned, or hate technology, but sometimes simple is a good thing! :thumb:

I still use pencils. ;) Just so you know, erasers work great to clean contacts.

Re: the new-new

There was the post in New Members the other night where a guy had already bought an Atlantis and wanted to know what battery device he should get. :blink:

ETA: "Dial" a phone? I just tell Siri to do it.
 

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It's too bad people are missing out on the savings. I still think that if someone vapes like I do, around 1.5Ω/11w a 2.5 is just as good. The boost function is great, but if I didn't have it I wouldn't miss it. Now, when new members talk about getting a ProVari it has to be a P3 - but then, everybody needs an Atlantis this month too.

LMAO @ needs an Atlantis this month too!

Well I dont! Hmph!!!! Ordered mine the day they were released. :p
 

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I just received my second Provari, a blue standard V2. It's a cute little thing.

I knew exactly how much smaller it would be than the black standard V2 with extension cap I've been using. But, I didn't realize how much smaller and cuter it would FEEL. I love it!

Now I just need a bronze V2.5 for my collection to be complete.
 

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I just received my second Provari, a blue standard V2. It's a cute little thing.

I knew exactly how much smaller it would be than the black standard V2 with extension cap I've been using. But, I didn't realize how much smaller and cuter it would FEEL. I love it!

Now I just need a bronze V2.5 for my collection to be complete.

ProVari - you can't only vape just one
 

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Look what I just got! :)

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An Atlantis. You knew what it was and how to use it, rather than getting one because 2-month-old vets were saying an Atlantis and an Istick was the best set-up for a new vaper.

And the I stick doesn't subohm....cough.

And the majority of people who buy an Atlantis or a Kangar subohm and try to vape it on an unsupported device cannot tell you why it doesn't fire and think something is wrong with their mods...

And as of today, I cannot find the amp limits on the 30 and 50 watt istick, I get snake rattle on my stick all the time. It's not a great vape it is a passable vape.

It is so easy today for a newbie to be misled in the interest of being "cool" because they have nothing to compare it with...LOL, someone should do a blindfold test and not let them touch it (so they can't feel what they are vaping)

Don't get me wrong, I think a stick is fine as a starter or for people who never want to venture to more satisfying experiences, but for a long term vape...not so much.

I own a lot of different mods now and three 'Varis. I have purchased two for family. I line them all up and the Provari still has the best quality for me.

I do like a subohm now and then, however. I have my Reo and DNAs for that.

I refer to the Atlantis and Kangar subohms as "subohm for dummies" no offense intended. But if all you have to do is to screw on a connection, that is what it ends up being for the mass populace. And it is driving the common man into the watts race without a knowledge of how things work. To me that is a somewhat dangerous proposition.

My crystal ball predicts that someone will noob it up and something untoward will happen. Then perhaps the market will shift toward safety.

You absolutely do not need to subohm to get great flavor and cloud production. Subohming can enhance your experience and be very yummy. But in my humble opinion, one should have to have at least a basic knowledge of the effect of a coil on a battery. At least enough to realize what mods will and will not fire the coils and why.

Sorry to keep adding to this but another thought crossed my mind. Before the pre-packed subohm coil emerged, I would almost always recommend a Provari to folks who had outgrown their egos and Isticks. It was a natural quality progression for folks who vape at positive ohms. Today, I cannot do that based on the technical fact of the Provari amp limit.

I think it is time for Provape to consider engineering at an amp limit that will support reasonable sub ohm resistance. Let's say 0.5 which would support the Atlantis and Kangar Subohm. And increasing wattage to 30...

But I still love my p3, doing high sub ohms on it right now and that Baklava is tasting dreamy.





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And the I stick doesn't subohm....cough.

And the majority of people who buy an Atlantis or a Kangar subohm and try to vape it on an unsupported device cannot tell you why it doesn't fire and think something is wrong with their mods...

And as of today, I cannot find the amp limits on the 30 and 50 watt istick, I get snake rattle on my stick all the time. It's not a great vape it is a passable vape.

It is so easy today for a newbie to be misled in the interest of being "cool" because they have nothing to compare it with...LOL, someone should do a blindfold test and not let them touch it (so they can't feel what they are vaping)

Don't get me wrong, I think a stick is fine as a starter or for people who never want to venture to more satisfying experiences, but for a long term vape...not so much.

I own a lot of different mods now and three 'Varis. I have purchased two for family. I line them all up and the Provari still has the best quality for me.

I do like a subohm now and then, however. I have my Reo and DNAs for that.

I refer to the Atlantis and Kangar subohms as "subohm for dummies" no offense intended. But if all you have to do is to screw on a connection, that is what it ends up being for the mass populace. And it is driving the common man into the watts race without a knowledge of how things work. To me that is a somewhat dangerous proposition.

My crystal ball predicts that someone will noob it up and something untoward will happen. Then perhaps the market will shift toward safety.

You absolutely do not need to subohm to get great flavor and cloud production. Subohming can enhance your experience and be very yummy. But in my humble opinion, one should have to have at least a basic knowledge of the effect of a coil on a battery. At least enough to realize what mods will and will not fire the coils and why.




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I find myself being offended by your comments because I feel like you are feeling that your opinions apply to everyone who owns an iStick and/or Atlantis or Sub Ohm tank. Obviously, priorities differ, even among veteran vapers. The only mods I use currently are my ProVarii (including P3s) and my 20w iSticks. With a Nautilus, the iStick is just fine. If it fires a bit high, I turn it down. That's all I expect of it. Sometimes, I just want simple. The 50w iStick will take a .2Ω coil. And yes, I will buy one in case I wish to try the Sub Ohm tank with the sub ohm coil.

It is up to us vets to recommend the right stuff (such as an iStick and a Nautilus) and it's up to vendors to educate them on what they are buying.
 

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I find myself being offended by your comments because I feel like you are feeling that your opinions apply to everyone who owns an iStick and/or Atlantis or Sub Ohm tank. Obviously, priorities differ, even among veteran vapers. The only mods I use currently are my ProVarii (including P3s) and my 20w iSticks. With a Nautilus, the iStick is just fine. If it fires a bit high, I turn it down. That's all I expect of it. Sometimes, I just want simple. The 50w iStick will take a .2Ω coil. And yes, I will buy one in case I wish to try the Sub Ohm tank with the sub ohm coil.

It is up to us vets to recommend the right stuff (such as an iStick and a Nautilus) and it's up to vendors to educate them on what they are buying.

Sorry, It was not intended to be offensive. I was not referring to experienced vapers. And I do recommend ISticks. I see this as a disturbing market trend. Please don't take it personally. It was not "aimed" at anyone.

I spend some time in the new members section. We were all clueless at one point. I have a problem with brand new vapers who are just finding their way having subohming thrust upon them and not being able to recommend something that I know will give them quality and keep them safe.

I have two Isticks myself (and bought one for my dogsitter and recommended one as a gift to a friend on in this thread) and they serve their purpose. I have an atlantis and I like it.

Mea Culpa if you feel somehow targeted. It was not meant to be mean.

Serenity...you are nowhere close to a newb or clueless, not sure why you would think I was referring to people such as yourself. You also are a Provari owner which means the IStick is not your only device. So, I know that you realize there is a quality difference there.

I also am not in the habit of judging people period...for anything and certainly not for their mod choice.

I was responding to Ocy's point. The current IStick does not fire subohms at 0.5 and neither does the Provari in any form. Yet folks get on vendor sites and buy the new pre-packaged subohm tanks and they don't fire.

So to your point..."It is up to us vets to recommend the right stuff (such as an iStick and a Nautilus) and it's up to vendors to educate them on what they are buying."...the right stuff today is not a Provari or an Istick 20watt and an Atlantis. I wish I could say it was.
 
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And the I stick doesn't subohm....cough.

And the majority of people who buy an Atlantis or a Kangar subohm and try to vape it on an unsupported device cannot tell you why it doesn't fire and think something is wrong with their mods...

And as of today, I cannot find the amp limits on the 30 and 50 watt istick, I get snake rattle on my stick all the time. It's not a great vape it is a passable vape.

It is so easy today for a newbie to be misled in the interest of being "cool" because they have nothing to compare it with...LOL, someone should do a blindfold test and not let them touch it (so they can't feel what they are vaping)

Don't get me wrong, I think a stick is fine as a starter or for people who never want to venture to more satisfying experiences, but for a long term vape...not so much.

I own a lot of different mods now and three 'Varis. I have purchased two for family. I line them all up and the Provari still has the best quality for me.

I do like a subohm now and then, however. I have my Reo and DNAs for that.

I refer to the Atlantis and Kangar subohms as "subohm for dummies" no offense intended. But if all you have to do is to screw on a connection, that is what it ends up being for the mass populace. And it is driving the common man into the watts race without a knowledge of how things work. To me that is a somewhat dangerous proposition.

My crystal ball predicts that someone will noob it up and something untoward will happen. Then perhaps the market will shift toward safety.

You absolutely do not need to subohm to get great flavor and cloud production. Subohming can enhance your experience and be very yummy. But in my humble opinion, one should have to have at least a basic knowledge of the effect of a coil on a battery. At least enough to realize what mods will and will not fire the coils and why.

Sorry to keep adding to this but another thought crossed my mind. Before the pre-packed subohm coil emerged, I would almost always recommend a Provari to folks who had outgrown their egos and Isticks. It was a natural quality progression for folks who vape at positive ohms. Today, I cannot do that based on the technical fact of the Provari amp limit.

I think it is time for Provape to consider engineering at an amp limit that will support reasonable sub ohm resistance. Let's say 0.5 which would support the Atlantis and Kangar Subohm. And increasing wattage to 30...

But I still love my p3, doing high sub ohms on it right now and that Baklava is tasting dreamy.





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Well damn! How much coffee did you drink?

You do realize ECF is just a small portion of the vaping community right?

I've got the Atlantis & Kanger Sub Tank and I'M NO DUMMY! I'm lazy.....there's a difference.

I've got the iStick & eGrip for no other reason than I wanted one but for 2 reasons-
  • I like to experience things for myself rather than read other people's experience &
  • I'm lazy........they are 2 of the least maintenance free devices I can grab & go without carrying extra stuff with me.

Based on everything you said, this here "I think it is time for Provape to consider engineering at an amp limit that will support reasonable sub ohm resistance. Let's say 0.5 which would support the Atlantis and Kangar Subohm. And increasing wattage to 30..." makes your post come off like a rant.

You're saying Provape should do the very thing you deem a problem for the industry.
 
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