The ProVarinati Saloon, V3

[Fir3b1rd]

Have you tried it or is it yet to be delivered? I'm curious what it's like and what the problems are.

Yeah I got it a month ago and it sat in the box since the day I got it. Lol
I got impatient waiting for a quality cloner to put one out. This thing is the definition of FT garbage. I've always focused on quality before I bought and learned why.
It leaks as fast as you fill it- from everywhere.
Won't fire with a beauty ring or on a mech. (Think the negative shorts when the base touches another conductive surface)
And despite near complete disassembly and heavy cleaning it still tastes like crude oil.
I've tried everything I can think of to give it a good seal from changing the o-rings to using floss to push them out more.
When if one of the good cloners one out ill give it a second shot.

 

[Lurch]

I see a lot of builds with 'shoulders' - right where the wick exits the coil it expands, like the wick is a larger diameter than the coil. I can pretty much guarantee I could use less than half of that & make a much, much better wick out of it. When I thread a wick through, it's loose. When you prime it with liquid, the cotton will swell a bit - I aim to have the wick expand just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit shy of the inside of the coil. It doesn't touch all the way around wet, but you'd have to look pretty darn close to tell that it wasn't.

As for the tails, it's just something you can develop an eye for, knowing how long to cut them. I'd say mine extend maybe 1/4 to 1/3 into the threading below the bottom of the well (before the chamber is put on, of course). I'm very careful not to disturb the ends after they're cut to length. Think mad scientist hair. I gently pinch the ends of the coil where the wick comes out to point them skyward without actually touching the ends with my fingers. You can get the chamber on without disturbing them that way. Then I use an open safety pin to tuck them into place. The point does a good job of directing the fibers where they need to go, but it doesn't compress them or bunch them up.

Getting a super, super fluffy wick with tails of the correct length is key. The diameter is sorta, kinda important, but you can fudge it a little bit without too much consequence.

And again, don't twist it. You want the fibers all going the same way, not in a helical/spiral pattern. Fiber wicks work with surface tension - the fiber itself doesn't wick, the air between the fibers does the work. Twisting interrupts that pattern & chokes the wick off.

ETA:

Well, I couldn't stand waiting to try again, so I stopped by my B&M and picked up another Russian (good excuse as any). Got it cleaned, built a coil (1.3 Ohms) and put in about half as much cotton. Loaded it up and been using it for about 2 hours. So far it is working great!!

Thanks for the tips!

 

[FringeChief68]

Well, I couldn't stand waiting to try again, so I stopped by my B&M and picked up another Russian (good excuse as any). Got it cleaned, built a coil (1.3 Ohms) and put in about half as much cotton. Loaded it up and been using it for about 2 hours. So far it is working great!!

Thanks for the tips!

Oz Needs to start making Videos

 

[Ozwald]

Well, I couldn't stand waiting to try again, so I stopped by my B&M and picked up another Russian (good excuse as any). Got it cleaned, built a coil (1.3 Ohms) and put in about half as much cotton. Loaded it up and been using it for about 2 hours. So far it is working great!!

Thanks for the tips!

Good to hear it. With cotton, less is more! Those thinner, just barely long enough, fluffy wicks will just drink the liquid as fast as you can vape it.

 

[FringeChief68]

 

[Splatnext]

Now your making me hungry Chief.

Waves hi at everybody, I have bin so insanely busy lately house hunting for the kiddie, now that we found something I hope I can do more then read again.

 

[FringeChief68]

 

[FringeChief68]

Now your making me hungry Chief.

Waves hi at everybody, I have bin so insanely busy lately house hunting for the kiddie, now that we found something I hope I can do more then read again.

Nothing like the smell of cooking Bacon huh

 

[Splatnext]

I didn't cook any bacon a ham sandwich had to do and that was shared with the four legged critters.

 

[The Ocelot]

Yeah I got it a month ago and it sat in the box since the day I got it. Lol
I got impatient waiting for a quality cloner to put one out. This thing is the definition of FT garbage. I've always focused on quality before I bought and learned why.
It leaks as fast as you fill it- from everywhere.
Won't fire with a beauty ring or on a mech. (Think the negative shorts when the base touches another conductive surface)
And despite near complete disassembly and heavy cleaning it still tastes like crude oil.
I've tried everything I can think of to give it a good seal from changing the o-rings to using floss to push them out more.
When if one of the good cloners one out ill give it a second shot.

I think I may have mentioned earlier that it would be hard to clone. The way the pieces fit together is very specific and just a hair off would turn it into a fountain. Are you filling it with the fill hole or upside down with the glass pulled down? I fill it upside down, then push the glass in place before turning it right side up.

ETA: I just looked at the clone on FT. It doesn't even look like there is a fill hole and screw. It seems most people don't use the fill hole, but it's odd that there isn't one.

 

[FringeChief68]

I didn't cook any bacon a ham sandwich had to do and that was shared with the four legged critters.

 

[The Ocelot]

I've been slumming in the underground today. I don't like it there, but I feel bad when I see threads go on for 3+ pages with people tearing each other apart, while questions asked by new vapers only get a couple of responses. I had a feeling it was going to go that way.

 

[Splatnext]

Slumming seems to be the operative word for that place, you have a stronger stomach then I do Ocey, I just don't like it over there.
I tried reading once or twice, this my vaping home.

I have a question for the peeps with a Nautilus, I'm presently vaping the Nautilus with a BVC coil at 1.8 ohm 3.6 volts, why is this thing spitting juice in to my drip tip?...help...

 

[FringeChief68]

I hate when someone knows the answer but waits till someone else tries to answer so they can troll them

 

[The Ocelot]

The thread about the Vaping Militia name got downright bizarre. Some people think the name is too provocative, yeah so, but the members of that group showed up and their posts only underscored why I want nothing to do with them.

 

[The Ocelot]

Slumming seems to be the operative word for that place, you have a stronger stomach then I do Ocey, I just don't like it over there.
I tried reading once or twice, this my vaping home.

I have a question for the peeps with a Nautilus, I'm presently vaping the Nautilus with a BVC coil at 1.8 ohm 3.6 volts, why is this thing spitting juice in to my drip tip?...help...

I don't have a Nautilus, but I've discovered that donut drip tips are good for dealing with spitting.

 

[serenity21899]

When things spit at me, I spit back. My Nautilus and BVC coils are en route, so can't actually help, sorry.

 

[Ozwald]

I've been slumming in the underground today. I don't like it there, but I feel bad when I see threads go on for 3+ pages with people tearing each other apart, while questions asked by new vapers only get a couple of responses. I had a feeling it was going to go that way.

That's why I prefer EVF over any of them. The rules are loose enough for adults, but that sort of crap isn't going to fly. I almost feel bad for the new vapers though. They ask one question & all of a sudden there's a mob... "WE WANT TO HELP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!" Not bad advise or trolling or vets arguing with each other, just a bunch of people asking good-intentioned questions which might be overwhelming to some. Like going to a grocery store & all of a sudden having 12 baggers all trying to help you at once.

IMPO, ECF is a bit too strict at times & a lot of those other places, while good intentioned, end up running wild. Perhaps that's just me.

 

[FringeChief68]

Slumming seems to be the operative word for that place, you have a stronger stomach then I do Ocey, I just don't like it over there.
I tried reading once or twice, this my vaping home.

I have a question for the peeps with a Nautilus, I'm presently vaping the Nautilus with a BVC coil at 1.8 ohm 3.6 volts, why is this thing spitting juice in to my drip tip?...help...

With the Nautilus the only problem I ever had was the coil comes loose when I take the tank off to fill it.
And it don't tighten back up when I put the tank back on so it floods

 

[Splatnext]

I don't have a doughnut but I stuck a much longer one on there and that seems to help for now.

The Nautilus is my convenience tank, a pack of spare coils in the vape case a fresh battery in the morning and I can go all day without having to fuss with something.It gets a little bizarre when stalking through prospective properties should you have to change coil or wicks during the day and I have bin to tired at night to re-wick or coil stuff.