The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

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Plumes.91

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Just wait till I pass this darn drivers test and get myself a job I can stand. I will be paying for Don's new car. I cannot get enough of his tobacco flavors. His 555 is almost RY4-ish. I swear I just smelled it typing that. MMM I need to make 15 bucks for a bottle. Lets get this page buried in the thread before the BWB site goes down. :p
 

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Reading the vanilla is a big part of what makes it great is good news for me; I loves me some vanilla. My expectations are pretty high, maybe not a fair mindset to enter into a juice, but cmon.. it's BWB's famous, hard to get when it was available, now discontinued and almost impossible to get, best RY4 ever according to some. With that, even really good could be a disappointment.

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Jerms, here's the quote from aussie vapors taken from the bwb site on the RY4 at that time:

"This is not your standard RY4. While it has some sweetness to it, it has warm and an ultra clean tobacco taste that bites.
We use a very special and somewhat uncommon vanilla that makes this juice right every time. If you want an RY4 with true tobacco goodness that produces tons of vapor, then look no further. "

It's the 'uncommon' part that leads me to believe that it became 'unaccessible' ;)

Hey, when you vape some of what you have left - let us know if there's a 'uncommon vanilla' note.... In others, I've always thought of the 'caramel cream' part that it was a cream but it could be a vanilla cream too. Having tried the ahlusion stuff, I've thought that the 'house blend' could be a nice tobacco base (without going aromatic) for an RY4. However, I don't think I've ever tasted a flavoring that approximates the 'pine pollen' of the old janty. Still - a good tobacco with a caramel vanilla cream might be good by itself. I have some DV caramel and 'very vanilla' flavoring. I may give it a shot using House Blend..... ;)
 

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I have about 10ml of BWB's RY4 from March 2012. Will be trying it soon, after knocking down my current rotation more. First thing will be to get past it's reputation and judge the juice without the hype getting in the way. It's very rare for a juice to wow me on first vape, though it has happened a couple times. I think people often get let down by a hyped juice when the first vape isn't.. OMG best thing ever! If it doesn't wow me, it's got 10ml to prove itself to me, just hope I don't fall in love with 1ml left lol; unless of course it does become available again.

Reading the vanilla is a big part of what makes it great is good news for me; I loves me some vanilla. My expectations are pretty high, maybe not a fair mindset to enter into a juice, but cmon.. it's BWB's famous, hard to get when it was available, now discontinued and almost impossible to get, best RY4 ever according to some. With that, even really good could be a disappointment.

Jerms,

I still have 15mls of BWB RY4 from my second bottle, purchased in March 2012, just before it was discontinued.

As for vanilla, yes, BWB RY4 might qualify as vanilla-rich, but what grabs me with the juice is the pineyness of the tobacco base that Don uses in some of his blends---Adirondack comes to mind. The pine (not Kent C's pine pollen, but regular pine scent) isn't overwhelming, but it's there. If you like that, then BWB RY4 is superb. If not, well, you know. The other thing about BWB RY4 for me is that, even though I don't love the flavor profile, once I start vaping it, I find that I keep vaping it for a lot longer than most other RY4s, classics or customs. The pineyness seems to fade after a little while. Something about the overall flavor experience and unique mouthfeel is almost addictive.

Despite my personal reservations, I'm not at all surprised that so many people loved BWB RY4 and mourn its passing. I loved it at first, then fell out of love with it, and now I like it again in an odd sort of way. It was definitely special and a landmark in retail juices. No wonder Don has resisted offering a new RY4 that might not be as good. The original BWB RY4 is gonna be a hard act to follow.

Let us know your reaction. Be sure to give it a fair trial, though. How you feel about it after two minutes may not be how you'll feel after half an hour.
 
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Despite my personal reservations, I'm not at all surprised that so many people loved BWB RY4 and mourn its passing. I loved it at first, then fell out of love with it, and now I like it again in an odd sort of way. It was definitely special and a landmark in retail juices. No wonder Don has resisted offering a new RY4 that might not be as good. The original BWB RY4 is gonna be a hard act to follow.

When I tried BWB RY4 a few months ago, I brought along some Bill's Pretty Good Classic RY4. My friend with the BWB RY4 actually liked yours better. :)
 

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BWB's RY4 is still probably my all time favorite RY4, but I am not as much in love with it now as I was last year when I first tried it. Bill's description is right on the mark IMO. The vanilla really is unique and one can appreciate this flavor profile more with a longer vaping session. I managed to purchase 60mls in the classifieds not long ago and still have about 50 mls remaining. So, hopefully I can string this out long enough for Don to replicate.

I am relatively new to Ahlusion's juices and recently purchased 4 new flavors from them. I have had their "take" on RY4 (Gold Rising) for quite some time and this juice is growing on me. It does not meet our definition of an RY4 on this thread so I guess it is in RY4 in name only LOL. Guess what the 4 new juices are? Two tobacco's, a vanilla and a caramel. Smooth Criminal is one of the tobaccos which right now I am enamored with, straight from the mail box it was very, very pleasing to me. Most reviews state this needs steeping time and I cannot wait to see what transforms considering my current level of pleasure with it. The vanilla is Vecchio Blend and the caramel is Gold Member, all are 18mg nic strength and in 50/50 PG/VG blend. The other tobacco I purchased is their Turkish Blend called Saraha Blend. I have not sampled Sahara Blend yet.

I Frankenjuiced the Smooth Criminal (60%) and Vecchio Blend (30%) and Gold Member (10%) in a Kanger Pro Tank and I must say this is very tasty! Good smooth tobacco punch blended with vanilla and caramel. I really do wish Ahlusion would offer a typical RY4 with the 3 core ingredients. There is no doubt in my mind they could manufacture a superb blend.
 

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Has anyone tried any of the RY4s from MidwestQuestVapor? Their page of retail juices is marked as "Stokes Vapor Emporium," but the vendor is MidwestQuest. Four Custom RY4s are offered: Quattro RY4 (MQV's basic RY4), Blue Ridge RY4 (with butterscotch), Jammur RY4 (with Jamaican rum and fresh peach), and Dark Orchard Peach RY4 (with cream and guess what?). $7.25 each for a 15ml bottle.

Link: MidwestQuestVapor Quattro RY4

I've added them to the "RY4s Not Yet Acquired for Review" group on The Big RY4 List.
 

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I Frankenjuiced the Smooth Criminal (60%) and Vecchio Blend (30%) and Gold Member (10%)

Brilliant idea! I actually have all three of those juices on hand. Perhaps I'll give it a shot. I'm a big fan of Ahlusion Vurley, which has a much stronger tobacco flavor than Vecchio. Perhaps a Frankenjuice of Vurley, Devil Dog!, and Gold Member will make a tasty Salty Dog RY4.

In other RY4 news, I posted a review of three e-liquids from Black Cloud Vapor. The company doesn't follow the traditional mix of tobacco, caramel, and vanilla. Instead, it opts for tobacco, caramel, and cocoa. Using Bill's definitions, this is definitely a "custom" blend. The company's RY4 has a bittersweet taste that's almost like licorice. It doesn't taste like an RY4 to me at all, but rather a tobacco/chocolate bar mix. I can see how some vapers might like it, but it's not what I expect or enjoy in an RY4. Cell Block 6 is a different take on the RY4 formula. It's sweeter and brighter. The bittersweet flavor isn't as pronounced. I liked it better than the company's RY4, but it's still atypical.

 
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Thanks for the heads up Bill its been moths since I have tried a new one that was not made by me so Ill give it a go....well :mad: maybe not they only have 12mg for the lowest....

Has anyone tried any of the RY4s from MidwestQuestVapor? Their page of retail juices is marked as "Stokes Vapor Emporium," but the vendor is MidwestQuest. Four Custom RY4s are offered: Quattro RY4 (MQV's basic RY4), Blue Ridge RY4 (with butterscotch), Jammur RY4 (with Jamaican rum and fresh peach), and Dark Orchard Peach RY4 (with cream and guess what?). $7.25 each for a 15ml bottle.

Link: MidwestQuestVapor Quattro RY4

I've added them to the "RY4s Not Yet Acquired for Review" group on The Big RY4 List.
 

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Quattro RY4 MidwestQuestVapor....

The first intake you get sweet like a sweetener sweet, tobacco is heavy with caramel and vanilla, the tobacco puts off a nutty tone, which kinda makes this RY4 not to likeable to me because its so overpowering, there is a top layer floating around, that is almost fruity like but im thinking its the vanilla, I cant say this is a really good RY4, the tobacco is just making this not good and wish they went a little easy on it to make the caramel and vanilla shine to be a nice balanced RY4 but if you like a heavy on the tobacco this would be great.
 

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This post is the first of four that together comprise the ultimate consumer guide to RY4. Only retail RY4s are covered in this first post.

The Big RY4 List has six sections:

1. RY4 Reviews - Classic and Custom Retail RY4s, with links to the vendor’s product page and post number links to the initial reviews and occasionally to follow-up reviews, mostly by Bill, but also by other thread posters (who are named)
2. RY4s not yet acquired for review
3. RY4s that are no longer available for one reason or another
4. Bill’s Reviews of Other Juices (non-RY4s)
5. Vaping Commentaries
6. Bill's Personal Top 20 Favorite RY4s


The Big RY4 List

Retail RY4 Reviews - Classic and Custom
AltCig RY4 - post #1221
AltSmoke AltLiquid RY4 - post #1
AltSmoke HighCaliber Our 4 - post #388
Apollo E-Liquids/RY4 - post #2293
AromaEJuice RY4 Awesome Clouds AC3 - post #2697
AwesomeVapor RY4 - post #1
AzureVaping RY4 (formerly BlueMistVaping) - post #1
AzureVaping RY4.5 (formerly BlueMistVaping) - post #3277
BeachVapes RY4 - post #3455 (passerbyeus)
BestEcig RY4 - post #4321
Bloog RY4 - posts #355, #439
BombayVaping RY4 - post #1814
BombayVaping RY5 - post #1814
CloudsOfVapor COV4 - post #2750
CopperCreek Voodoo - post #806
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco - post #615
CrystalClearVaping RY4 - post #4631
CrystalELiquid RY4 - post #1014
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco - post #1998
DarkCityVapor Wild Bill - post #4479
DeeJStuff RY4 premixed - post #3366
DIYFlavorShack RY4 - posts #1072, #3612
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4 - post #3612
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4 - posts #1073, #3612
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4 - post #3612
ECBlend RY4 Tobacco - post #4404
ECBlend Spicy RY4 - post #4404
EcigExpress My 4 - post #1222
EcigzUSA RY4 E-liquid - post #1827
ECSI Jane’s RY4 Kick Liquid - post #4273
EliteVaporworks RY4 - post #773
ElixirLiquid RY4 - post #1
Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice - post #1
FeelLife RY4 from health007.net - post #3375
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4 - post #1
FreedomSmokeUSA RY5 - post #1035
GoodEJuice GJ4 - post #976
GoodEJuice RY4 - post #158
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan - post #3114
GoodProphets GP4 - post #944
GoodProphets 16mg VG Joyetech Liquid - post #3373
GourmetVapor RY4 (no link to vendor allowed on ECF) - post #241
GreenhouseOne RY4 - post #962
Halo Tribeca - post #157
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4 - post #3307
HealthCabin house-brand RY4 - post #982
HealthCabin Dekang RY4 - posts #575, #3895 (osmo)
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Tobacco - posts #1973, #3457 (Endor)
HighDesertEcigs Myshell’s RY4 - post #2987
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4 - posts #1044, #1055
HitLiquid RY4 VG - post #3031
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real - post #4288
HotVapes RY4 - post #1026
Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold - post #1
IndigoVapor Indigo RY - post #3382
IndigoVapor Indigo Classic - post #3488
Janty RY4 (DK Series) - post #3257
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) - post #3257
Janty RY4 (Elixir Series) - posts #135, #3257
KalamazooVaporShop RY4 - post #1
KickBassVapor RY4 - posts #2, #1232
KustomJoose Are Why For (no online vendor) - post #4480 (Calivaper123)
KustomJoose For Are Why (no online vendor) - post #4480 (Calivaper123)
Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-4 - posts #754, #758, #3895 (osmo), #3628
Liberty-Flights LF4 - post #754
LiquidXpress Taboo - post #1
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RyJ4 - post #2548
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RyW4 - post #2548
MaddCattVapors MADDHatter RyJ5 - post #2853
Madvapes Mad 4 (Top Vapor) - post #2090
MidwestQuestVapor Quattro RY4 - post #4678 (Passerbyeus)
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4 - posts #3125, #3895 (osmo[/])
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 - post #880
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 - post #963
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4 - post #1152
Moondrop RY42 - post #833
Mt.BakerVapor RY4 - post #1513
MountainOakVapors CountRY4 - post #1513
MOV Full Virginia Flake RY4 Limited Edition - posts #3383, #3517
MrVape RY4 - posts #1600, #3976
MyVapeCreations RY4 - post #3036
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4 - post #3036
MyVapeJuice Our RY4 - posts #3402, #3302 (the hangdude)
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4 - post #3528
NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Master Blend - posts #3372, #3326 (the hangdude)
NHaler High Voltage Octane R Why Not - post #1065
NiteLiteVapor Renegade RY4 - post #1
OrbVapor Organic RY4 in a 100% VG base - posts #3234, #3323
OrbVapor Organic RY4 in selectable PG/VG base blends - posts #3234, #3323
ParkesVaping PV4 - post #943
ParkesVaping RY4 - post #943
PrimeVaping PV4 - post #1, #3895 (osmo[/])
QuantumVapor RY4, #3895 (osmo[/])
QuickNicJuice RY4 - post #51
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro - posts #3490 (MrMann), #3492 (the hangdude), #3501, #3517
RevolutionVapor RY-4 - posts #3992 (MFToms) and #4485 (Bill)
Revolver RY4 - post #1061
RockyTopVapor Ruyan 4 (RY4) - posts #3455 (passerbyeus), #3895 (osmo)
RWVapors RY4 - post #2217
SmokeForPennys RY4 - post #672
SmokelessImage Volt RY4 - posts #355, #439, #3895 (osmo)
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4 - posts #1106, #1311
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 - posts #1107, #1311
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 Day & Night - post #1311
Sweet-Vapes RY4 - post #773
TimelessVapor RY4 - post #3306
TopShelfVapes RY4 - post #672
Totally Wicked Patriot Range RY4 - post #3351
ValueVapor Dekang RY1-3 - post #835
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia) - post #3405
vapeBig RY4 - post #3375
VapeDoctor RY4 - post #664
VapeKing VK4 (Australia) - post #2903
VapeKing VK5 (Australia) - post #3010
VapeRevolution Midas RY4 - post #3661 (passerbyeus)
VapeRite Organic VR4 - post #1
VapeRite RY4 - post #1
Vapesales Gold Label RY4(squared) - posts #2066, #2127
VapingXtreme R-YLD-4 - posts #4532 (the hangdude), #4537 (calivaper123), #4539 (Jerms), #4541 (Bill)
V4L Jammin - post #3169
TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....) - post #1543
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4 - posts #2537, #3895 (osmo)
Vaporescence RY4 - posts #3367, #3335 (On Target)
VaporGod RY4 Tobacco, #3895 (osmo[/])
TheVaporPro Wicked Vapor USA RY4 - posts #3375, #3337 (passerbyeus)
VaporRenu Re(4)nu - post #2251
TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4 - post #518
VaporStation RY4 - post #1
VaporStation VS4 - post #1
VaporTalk Dulcis - post #1
VapourWorldUK Dekang RY4 Intense (only from the UK) - post #658
Vapure VY4 - post #1
vermillionriverejuice KY4 - posts #1395, #1432
Vixen Vapors RY4 (no link for vendor allowed on ECF) - post #288
VulcanVape RYGAR - post #2897
Want2Vape RY4 - post #1
Want2Vape Rock Star - post #1
ZeusE-juice Creamy RY4 - post #3033


RY4s not yet acquired for review
AltSmoke AltLiquid Premium RY4
ConstantVapor CV4
CrystalCanyonVapes Mystik RY4
DarthVapers RY4
DiamondVapor cRazY 4 you
ECBlend Ruyan 4 (Extra Caramel)
Esmoke4Life R3 Power Puff
Hope-Liquids R You 4 Real?
HotVapes Our Why 5
Janty Vitaya RY4
LongIslandVapory Main Street RY4
LotsOfVapor RY4
MyVaporStore RY4
NHaler High Voltage RY4
NHaler Nhale/Exhale RY4
NiteLiteVapor Renegade RY4v2
ObsidianVapor RY4
PureVapes PV3
PureVapes PV4
RoarVapor JY4
TheVaporRoom TVR RY4
USVaporShop RY4 Tobacco
VapeRite Asian RY4 Tobacco
VapeRite Double RY4 Tobacco
VapeRite Italian RY4 Tobacco
VolcanoEcigs RY-Four
Yaeliq RY4 (Israel)
RY4 Asian Tobacco (Israel)
Yaeliq Double RY4 (Israel)
ZeusE-Juice Zeus RY4 Version 2
ZeusE-Juice RY4 Double


RY4s unavailable or no longer for sale
AlienVisions Raf-a-licious - discontinued by AlienVisions and no longer for sale
Bauway RY4 - no longer for sale at IndyVaporShop
BackwoodsBrew RY4 - discontinued by BackwoodsBrew and no longer for sale
HoneyvilleVapor RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
JooglerJuice Joogler's Blend - vendor site closed, no longer in business
Keemer RY3 VG - no longer for sale at GoodProphets
Keemer RY4 VG - no longer for sale at GoodProphets
Mist-Stix RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
MountOlympusVapors RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
MountOlympusVapors Double Happy RY4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
NewEraVaping RY-4 and New Era - vendor site closed, no longer in business
PandaEcigs RY4 - vendor stopped selling juices and offers hardware only
VapeMasters R4 - vendor site closed, no longer in business
VoidMist RY4 (versions 1-3) - vendor site closed, no longer in business
ZeusE-Juice Zeus RY4 Version 1 - replaced by Version 2


Bill’s Reviews of other juices (non-RY4s)
ECSI Jane’s Toasted Toffee Kick Juice - post #867
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Army - post #3442
NiteLiteVapor Caramel Corral - posts #961, #3526
Vapor..... PY4 - post #2061
Mad Mudock’s Radiator Pluid from 310Vapers - post #2554
PinkSpotVapors RY8 - post #2902
Three tobacco blends from IndigoVapors (separate thread)
AliceinVapeland Ravyn - post #3469


Vaping Commentaries
Commentary: About Steeping - post #1273
Commentary: Caramel, Caramel, Caramel - post #1101
Commentary: Determining Classic versus Custom RY4s - post #1873
Commentary: Vaping Strawberry - post #2083
Commentary: So Many Juices, So Little Time - post #2655
Commentary: Comparing 12 Top-Rated RY4s - post #3144
Commentary: The Three Bs of Classic RY4s - post #3196
Commentary: Throat Hit in RY4s - post #3393
Commentary: Tobacco in RY4s - post #3504
Commentary: Distinguishing Classic from Custom RY4s - post #3512
Commentary: Essential Truths About RY4s - post #3612
Commentary: The “Original” RY4 - post #3769
Commentary: RY4 Rankings and Grades - post #4108


Bill’s Top 20 Retail RY4s (my current personal favorites, which change with every update)
1. CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco - custom
2. Hangsen retail RY4 - classic
3. SmokelessImage Volt RY4 - classic
4. Bloog RY4 – classic
5. VaporTalk Dulcis - classic
6. Kent’s 2009-2010 Janty RY4 - classic
7. Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) - custom
8. Janty RY4 (DK, Classic, or Elixir Series) - classic
9. TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....) - classic
10. NHaler R Why Not - custom

11. MrVape RY4 - classic
12. IndigoVapor Indigo Classic - custom
13. ApolloECigs RY4 - classic
14. AltCigRY4 - custom
15. Halo Tribeca - custom
16. Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4 - custom
17. LiquidXpress Taboo - classic
18. Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice - classic
19. Ikenvape RY4 Gold - custom
20. RWVapors RY4 - custom
 
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