The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

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Retail RY4s Grouped by Categories

Stronger tobacco
AzureVaping RY4.5 (formerly BlueMist)
CloudsOfVapor COV4
CrystalClearVaping RY4
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double tobacco
DeeJStuff RY4
Dekang RY4
EcigzUSA RY4
Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice
Goodejuice GJ4
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan
Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
Hangsen RY1-4
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
HitLiquid RY4
IndigoVapor Indigo RY
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series)
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYW4
Mister-e-liquid MrE’s RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4
Moondrop RY42
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4 (in-house NET)
MyVapeCreations RY4
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4
MyVapeJuice Our RY4
ParkesVaping PV4
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro
Rawr Vapor JY4
Sweet-Vapes RY4
TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4
VapeKing VK5 (Australia)
VapeRite RY4
Vapor4Life Jammin
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
VaporTalk Dulcis
VaporStation VS4
VapourWorld Dekang RY4 Intense
VulcanVape RYGAR

Natural Extract Tobacco (NET)
GoodEJuice GJ4 (in-house NET)
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4 (NET, source unknown)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 (Tobacco Absolute)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 (Tobacco Absolute)
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4 (Tobacco Extract, a derivative of Tobacco Absolute)
Moondrop RY4 (Tobacco Absolute)
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4 (in-house NET)
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4 (in-house NET)
PrimeVaping PV4 (NET, unknown source)
QuickNicJuice RY4 (Tobacco Absolute, I think)
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro (in-house NET)
VapeRite Organic VR4 (in-house NET)
VapeRite RY4 (in-house NET?)
VaporStation VS4 (Tobacco Absolute/NET blend)
Want2Vape RY4 (in-house NET)

Maximum Throat Hit
Awesome Clouds AC3
AltCig RY4
Dekang RY4
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan
Greenhouse One RY4
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4X (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG (Elixir Series)
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYW4
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4
MyVapeCreations RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
TotallyWicked RY4 (Patriot Range)
ValueVapor Dekang RY1-RY2
VapeRite VR4
Vapor4Life Jammin
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
VaporStation VS4
VaporTalk Dulcis

Minimum Throat Hit
ApolloECigs RY4
CloudsOfVapor COV4
CrystalELiquid RY4
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco
ElixirLiquid RY4
Good Prophets GP4
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Tobacco
MtBakerVapor RY4
OrbVapor Organic RY4
PrimeVaping PV4
QuickNicJuice RY4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4
TimelessVapor RY4
VermillionRiver KY4
Want2Vape Rock Star
Want2Vape RY4

Dessert/Sweet
AltCig RY4
AltSmoke HighCaliber Our 4
Awesome Clouds AC3
Bloog RY4
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CrystalELiquid RY4
DIYFlavorShack Sweet RY4
EcigExpress My 4
GoodEJuice RY4
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan
GoodProphets GP4
GreenhouseOne RY4
Hangsen RY4
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG (Elixir Series)
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
KickBassVapor RY4
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYJ4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
PrimeVaping PV4
QuickNicVapor RY4
SmokeForPennys RY4
SmokelessImage Volt RY4
TopShelf RY4
VapeDoctor RY4
Vapor4Life Jammin
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
Vixen Vapors RY4

Sweet & Sour
ApolloECigs RY4
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG or VG (Elixir Series)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
MyVapeCreations RY4 (not sweet)
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4 (not sweet)
ParkesVaping RY4
TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....)
Totally Wicked RY4 (Patriot Range)
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia)
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
Vaporescence RY4
VermillionRiver KY4

Nutty
ElixirLiquid RY4
Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
FlavourArtUK Nutzilla
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4
HealthCabin house-brand RY4
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
LiquidXpress Taboo
ParkesVaping RY4
QuickNicVapor RY4
VapeKing VK4 (Australia)
VapeKing VK5 (Australia)
VapeRite RY4
VaporTalk Dulcis

Caramel Rich
AltCig RY4
CloudsOfVapor COV4
CopperCreek Voodoo
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CrystalELiquid RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
EcigExpress My 4
EliteVaporworks RY4
GoodEJuice RY4
GourmetVapor RY4
Greenhouse One RY4
HighDesertVapes Myshell’s RY4
Madvapes Top Vapor Mad 4
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
Moondrop RY42
MyVapeJuice Our RY4
NHaler R Why Not
KickBassVapor RY4
LiquidXpress Taboo
ParkesVaping PV4
PrimeVaping PV4
Rawr Vapor JY4
TheVaporPro RY4
TimelessVapor RY4
TopShelf RY4
VapeRite Organic VR4
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
Vixen Vapors RY4
Want2Vape RY4

Vanilla Rich
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
FeelLife RY4
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYJ4
PrimeVaping PV4
QuickNicVapor RY4
Revolver RY4
Sweet-Vapes RY4

Liqueur
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
QuickNicVapor RY4
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RYJ5
Vixen Vapors RY4

Balanced/Blended
ApolloEcigs RY4
AwesomeVapor RY4
BestEcig RY4
Bloog RY4
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CrystalELiquid RY4
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco
DeeJStuff RY4
Dekang RY4
DIYFlavorShack RY4 Aces
ECBlend Ruyan 4 (lite recipe)
EliteVaporworks RY4
ElixirLiquid RY4
GoodEJuice RY4
GoodProphets GP4
GreenhouseOne RY4
Halo Tribeca
Hangsen RY1-4
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4
HealthCabin house-brand RY4
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real?
IndigoVapor Indigo RY
IndigoVapor Indigo Classic
Janty RY4 (DK Series)
Janty RY4 (Classic Series)
Janty RY4 PG (Elixir Series)
KalamazooVaporShop RY4
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4
MrVape RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
OrbVapor Organic RY4
ParkesVaping RY4
PrimeVaping PV4
NiteLiteVapor Renegade RY4
RevolutionVapor RY-4
RWVapors RY4
SmokeForPennys RY4
SmokelessImage Volt RY4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 Day and Night
TheVapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 (formerly Vapor.....)
TotallyWicked RY4 (Patriot Range)
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia)
VapeBIG RY4
VapeKing VK4 (Australia)
VapeRite RY4
VapingXtreme R-YLD-4
Vapor4Life Jammin
VaporStation RY4
VaporStation VS4
VaporTalk Dulcis
VapourWorld Dekang RY4 Intense

Distinctive (atypical)
AltSmoke HighCaliber Our 4
AzureVaping RY4 (formerly BlueMist)
AzureVaping RY4.5 (formerly BlueMist)
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
CopperCreek Voodoo
DarkCityVapor Wild Bill
DIYFlavorShack RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4
DIYFlavorShack Sweet RY4
ECSI Jane’s RY4 Kick Liquid
FlavourArt oRYental 4
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
FreedomSmokeUSA RY5
Goodejuice GJ4
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan
Halo Tribeca
Hangsen RY1
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real?
IndyVaporShop Bauway RY4
KickBassVapor RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4
Moondrop RY42
MountainOakVapor Classic CountRY-4
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4
MountBakerVapor RY4
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4
OrbVapor Organic RY4
ParkesVaping PV4
QuickNicVapor RY4
QuickNicJuice ouR whY Qu4tro
RevolutionVapor RY-4
SpringVapor Black Label RY4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4
TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4
TimelessVapor RY4
VapeKing VK5 (Australia)
VapeRite Organic VR4
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4
Vaporescence RY4
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
Want2Vape Rock Star
ZeusE-Juice Creamy RY4
ZeusE-Juice Zeus’ RY4

So-So (undistinguished)
HotVapes RY4
ParkesVaping RY4
VaporRenu Re(4)nu
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
 

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The Really Big RY4 Report Card

The grades given for these retail RY4s are my opinion only. They are also current judgments and may differ from grades I gave in the past. So please understand that if you base a buying decision solely on this list, you might end up getting an RY4 that I like rather than one you’ll like, since my tastes and palate are unlikely to match yours perfectly---in some cases, not even remotely.

Within each grade, the RY4s are listed in alphabetical order. This kind of judging is ridiculous enough without splitting hairs or nit-picking between RY4s within the same grade.

For vendor links and original review post numbers, as well as Category Groups, please refer to the most recent update of The Big RY4 List (the posts right above this one).

Did I mention that these grades are my opinion only? LOL.

A
Bloog RY4 - classic
CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco - custom
Hangsen RY4 - classic
IndigoVapor Indigo Classic - custom
Janty RY4 2009-2010 - classic (from KentC, no longer available)
Janty RY4 (DK Series) - classic
Janty RY4 (Classic Series) - classic
Janty RY4 (Elixir Series) - classic
SmokelessImageVolt RY4 - classic
VaporTalk Dulcis - classic

A-
ApolloECigs RY4 - classic
Awesome Clouds AC3 - custom
GoodLifeVapor Hooligan - custom
Halo Tribeca - custom
HealthCabin Dekang RY4 - classic
Ikenvape RY4 Gold PG - custom
IndigoVapor Indigo RY - custom
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) - classic
Joyetech RY4 - classic
LiquidXpress Taboo - classic
Mister-E-Liquid MrE’s RY4 - custom
MrVape RY4 - classic
Nhaler R Why Not - custom
RWVapors RY4 - custom
Vapor’sKnoll OuR-Y4 - classic
VapourWorld Dekang RY4 Intense - custom

B+
AlienVisions Raf-a-licious (discontinued/unavailable) - classic
AltCig RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack Caramel-Vanilla RY4 - custom
GoodEJuice GJ4 - NET-based custom
HitLiquid RY4 - classic
KickBassVapor RY4 - custom
MountainOakVapors Full Virginia Flake RY4 - NET-based custom
MyVapeJuice Our RY4 - classic
QuickNicJuice ouR whY qu4tro - NET-based custom
Sweet-Vapes RY4 - classic
TopShelfVapes RY4 - custom
TotallyWicked RY4 (Patriot Range) - custom
Vapor4Life Jammin - (discontinued/unavailable) - custom
Vapebar RY4-LE (Australia) -custom
VapeKing VK5 (Australia) - custom
VapeRite VR4 - custom
VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4 - custom
VaporStation VS4 - custom
Want2Vape RY4 - NET-based custom

B
BackwoodsBrew RY4 (discontinued/unavailable) - custom
BestEcig RY4 - classic
BombayVaping RY4 - custom
BombayVaping RY5 - custom
CloudsOfVapor COV4 - custom
CrystalClearVaping RY4 - custom
CrystalELiquid RY4 - classic
ECBlend RY4 - custom
ECBlend Spicy RY4 - custom
EcigzUSA RY4 - custom
ECSI Jane’s RY4 Kick Liquid - custom
Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice - classic
HappyESmoker Happy E’s Favorite RY4 - custom
Heather’sHeavenlyVapes Heavenly Tobacco - custom
HighbrowVapor Highbrowbacco RY4 - custom
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 - TA-based custom
Moondrop RY42 - TA-based custom
MountainOakVapors Classic CountRY-4 - custom
NiteLiteVapor Renegade RY4 - classic
ParkesVaping PV4 - custom
PrimeVaping PV4 - custom
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 Day and Night - classic
VapeBIG RY4 - custom
VapeKing VK4 (Australia) - custom
VapeSales Gold Label RY4(squared) - classic
Vaporescence RY4 - classic
Vixen Vapors RY4 - custom
Want2Vape Rock Star - custom

B-
AltSmoke AltLiquid RY4 - custom
AzureMist RY4.5 (formerly Bluemist) - custom
ElixirLiquid RY4 - classic
GoodProphets GP4 - custom
GoodProphets Keemer RY4 - classic
GreenhouseOne RY4 - custom
HopE-Liquids Are You 4 Real? - custom
Hotvapes RY4 - custom
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYW4 - custom
Madvapes Mad 4 - custom
MyVapeCreations CigaRY4 - custom
MyVapeJuice Rogue RY4 - NET-based custom
QuickNicJuice RY4 - custom
RevolutionVapor RY-4
SpringVapor Fall Harvest RY4 - custom
SpringVapor Black Label RY4 - custom
TimelessVapor RY4 - custom
ValueVapor Dekang RY1-RY2 - custom
VapingXtreme R-YLD-4 - classic
VulcanVape w2v Rygar - custom
ZeusE-Juice Creamy RY4 - custom

C+
DarkCityVapor Wild Bill
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack RY4 Aces - classic
EliteVaporworks RY4 - custom
GoodProphets Keemer RY3 - custom
HighDesertVapes Myshell’s RY4 - custom
KalamazooVaporShop RY4 - custom
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 - TA-based custom
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO4 - TE-based custom
SmokeForPennys RY4 - custom
VapeDoctor RY4 - custom
TheVaporRoom Ginger’s RY4 - custom

C
Copper Creek Voodoo - custom
DIYFlavorShack RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack Caramel RY4 - custom
GoodEJuice RY4 - classic
Good Prophets GP4 - custom
GourmetVapor RY4 - custom
HealthCabin house-brand RY4 - classic
HoneyvilleVapor RY4 - custom
MaddcattVapors MaddHatter RYJ4 - custom
MtBakerVapor RY4 - custom
MyVapeCreations RY4 - custom
ParkesVaping RY4 - custom
VermillionRiver KY4 - custom
ZeusE-Juice Zeus’ RY4 Version 1 - custom

C-
AzureMist RY4 (formerly Bluemist) - custom
DeeJStuff RY4 - custom
DIYFlavorShack Sweet RY4 - custom
FreedomSmokeUSA RY5 - custom
Greenhouse One RY4 - custom
Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-RY3 - custom
OrbVapor Organic RY4 VG - custom
VapeRite RY4 - classic

D+
ECBlend RY4 with double-extra caramel - custom
FreedomSmokeUSA RY4 - custom
HighCaliber Our 4 - custom
MaddCattVapors MaddHatter RyJ5 - custom
Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4 (same juice) - custom

D
CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco - custom
FeelLife RY4 - custom
TheVaporPro RY4 - custom

D-
VaporRenu Re4nu - custom
FreedomSmokeUSA FlavourArt oRYental 4 - custom

F
Bauway RY4 (no known vendor availability, thankfully) - custom
 

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All-in-one RY4 pre-mixed DIY flavorings---with mix percentages, Report Card, vendor links, and review posts

Mixing Percentages
The key to making good DIY RY4 from Pre-Mixed RY4 flavorings and concentrates is knowing how much (or rather, how little) flavoring to use. Flavorings require a higher percentage; concentrates work at lower percentages. Use too much of either and you will ruin the juice. I cannot stress this strongly enough. Start out mixing lean. Then---if necessary---add more flavoring very sparingly. Test-vape after each small addition of flavor. Keep in mind that the flavors will “bloom” with steeping---a DIY RY4 that seems to lack flavor when new may magically mature into full-flavor after two weeks, so exercise both patience and restraint.

When making a small bottle of DIY RY4 (6mls or less) using a very concentrated flavoring, adding even two drops to an existing mix can be enough to wreck the flavor profile. Increase the flavoring only one drop at a time. Remember: Less is best, and more is not necessarily better. Err on the side of using too little flavoring rather than too much! Below are my recommended percentages for different brands of RY4 flavorings:

2-4%
TobaccoExpress Ruyan and RY4 concentrates
VapingZone RY4 super-concentrated flavoring

5-7%
DecadentVapours DY3 and DY4 flavorings
FlavourArt Legend RY4 flavoring concentrate
FlavourArt oRYental4 flavoring concentrate
FlavourArtUK Nutzilla flavoring concentrate
Hangsen Essence RY4 flavoring concentrate
HealthCabin Ruyan #4 (RY4) flavoring concentrate

6-9%
TPA/TFA RY4 Double and RY4 Asian flavorings

8-10%
AzureVaping RY4 and RY4.5 flavorings (formerly BlueMist)
MtBakerVapor RY4 flavoring

10-20%
Want2Vape RY4 and Rock Star flavorings

Thread Discussion
To find posts on the thread about DIY RY4s, made from all-in-one pre-mixed flavorings or from scratch, use the “Search Thread” box located in the gray menu bar just above the top post on the page, then search for “DIY” or “flavorings”



The Winners
Best Classic RY4 Flavoring: FlavourArt RY4
Classic Runner-up: Hangsen Essence RY4
Best Custom RY4 Flavoring: TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Double
Custom Runner-up #1: FlavourArtUK RY4 Nutzilla
Custom Runner-up #2: Want2Vape RY4



DIY pre-mix all-in-one RY4 Flavorings Report Card

A
FlavourArt RY4 (concentrate - classic)
FlavourartUK RY4 Nutzilla (concentrate - custom)
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Double (flavoring - custom)
Hangsen Essence RY4 (concentrate - classic)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 (flavoring - TA-based custom)

B
BlueMistVaping RY4.5 (flavoring - custom)
DecadentVapours DY4 (flavoring - custom)
HealthCabin RY4 Essence (concentrate - classic)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 (flavoring - TA-based custom)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY0 (flavoring - TE-based custom)
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Asian (flavoring - classic)
TotallyWicked Ruyan 5 (flavoring - custom)
Want2Vape Rock Star (flavoring - custom)
Want2Vape RY4 (flavoring - NET-based custom)
EcigExpress Tobacco Express Ruyan 4 (super-concentrate - custom)
EcigExpress Tobacco Express RY4 (super-concentrate - custom)

C
BlueMistVaping RY4 (flavoring - custom)
DecadentVapours DY3(flavoring - custom)
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4 (flavoring - custom)

D
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Exclusive (flavoring - custom)
MtBaker RY4 (flavoring - custom)
VaporRenu Re4Nu (flavoring - custom)

F
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Type (flavoring - custom)



Vendor Links to purchase RY4 Pre-Mixed DIY Flavorings
AzureVaping RY4 flavoring (formerly BlueMist) - post #3072 (from AzureVaping only)
AzureVaping RY4.5 flavoring (formerly BlueMist) - post #3277 (from AzureVaping only)
DecadentVapours DY3 flavoring (from Liberty-Flights)
DecadentVapours DY4 flavoring (from Liberty-Flights)
DIYFlavorShack Holy Holy Grail RY4 flavoring (from DIYFlavorshack only)
FlavourArt oRYental4 flavoring concentrate (from RTSVapes; also from EcigExpress and Liberty-Flights)
FlavourArt RY4 Legend flavoring concentrate - post #2989 (from RTSVapes; also from EcigExpress and Liberty-Flights)
FlavourArtUK RY4 Nutzilla flavoring concentrate - posts #3240 (from FlavourArtUK only)
Hangsen Essence RY1 flavoring concentrate (from EcigExpress)
Hangsen Essence RY3 flavoring concentrate (from EcigExpress)
Hangsen Essence RY4 flavoring concentrate - post #3715 (from EcigExpress)
HealthCabin Ruyan#4 (RY4) flavoring concentrate (from HealthCabin only)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4 flavoring (from Mom&Pop only)
Mom&PopVaporShop RY4v2 flavoring (from Mom&Pop only)
Mom&PopVaporShop RYO flavoring (from Mom&Pop only)
MtBaker RY4 flavoring (from MtBakerVapor only)
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Double flavoring - post #1145 (also from numerous vendors that sell TPA/TFA flavorings)
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Asian flavoring - post #1550 (also from numerous vendors that sell TPA/TFA flavorings)
TheFlavorApprentice RY4 Type flavoring - post #3072 (I don't recommend buying this one)
Super-Concentrated RY4 Flavoring (from VapingZone)
Tobacco Express Ruyan flavoring super-concentrate - post #2187 (from EcigExpress)
Tobacco Express RY4 flavoring super-concentrate - post #2187 (from EcigExpress)
Want2Vape RY4 flavoring concentrate (from XtremeVaping; also from Want2Vape)
Want2Vape Rock Star flavoring (from XtremeVaping; also from Want2Vape)
 
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Started vaping 3 new to me RY4s since last night. They all share one thing, they contain unique flavor notes that are new to me in a vape. Odd, weird, intriguing, and/or down right gross to me, depending on the juice.

BackWoodsBrew RY4. This juice is/was famous, and I can see why; and I don't think it's just because it was hard to get and now discontinued. I've spent the most time with this, a few hours last night, but I still have a ways to go to figure it out. It's tobacco heavy and the unique note to me is I'm guessing from the tobacco.. and it's.. yep that's pine. That shouldn't work, for some reason it does. It's not overwhelming, chemical, or gross pine, but it is clearly a pine note. Overall it's an odd juice to me, but it's becoming somewhat wondeful too. It seems fairly far from an RY4 so far, though it does have creamy vanilla and/or caramel notes that are showing the more I vape it, and the non-tobacco flavors also seem unique and quite impressive.

RevolutionVapor RY4 has a tobacco flavor I do not like at all. Simply put, I don't like this and won't vape it. The flavor is weird, if someone likes it they may REALLY like it, but I find it gross.

Janty RY4 2009-2010 edition. Oh my, I like this a lot! The unique note is new to me, but is instantly likable instead of starting out as odd like the BWB RY4. I just started this about 10 minutes ago, so this is very early impressions but it does click. I don't have any Janty DK or Classic RY4s on hand to compare it to, but based on memory it's the same or very similar caramel and vanilla notes; which to me is a little creamy, slightly stronger than lean, and very, very tasty. It seems about the same juice, but instead of the sour note in DK that goes a tad to far to me, it has a flavor that is new to me that I like. It is a little sour, I want to say in between classic and DK.

Typical classic RY4s, and even custom ones like the tobacco heavy NET RY4s I've had I can easily enjoy as a pleasant flavor about anytime during the day, and work great as a non-distracting flavor I can enjoy. The BWB and this Janty are ones that, at least for a bit, I'll want to vape when I'm actually thinking about the flavor. Right now these demand attention and contemplation. A big thanks to Kent for the Janty, Big Juicey for the BWB, and MFTom for the Revolution.

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Jerms,

What distinguishes BWB RY4 for me is the Appreciation Learning Curve. Whenever I vape some, draws #1 and #2 are "What the hell?" 3rd, 4th, and 5th draws are "Well, OK..." Tokes 6-10 are "Hey, this is pretty good." 10-15 are "Pretty darn good," and by vape #20, "This is great!" It's like meeting someone who's not all that attractive to you at first glance, but whose comeliness and beauty emerge over time, so that eventually you find yourself entranced without knowing quite when that happened.

The combination of that "thick" piney tobacco and creamy vanilla with a little caramel to tie them together is unique and oddly addictive. Not very RY4-like, but who cares? Even after I vape BWB RY4 for 20 minutes, I'm not entirely convinced that I like it, per se, but I'm deeply satisfied anyway.

At this point, having vaped it off and on for almost three years, I feel that BWB RY4 deserves its legendary status. It does sort of break the mold for RY4s, however, and I occasionally wish that Don had given it a name other than RY4. But he didn't, so here we are.
 

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Jerms,

What distinguishes BWB RY4 for me is the Appreciation Learning Curve. Whenever I vape some, draws #1 and #2 are "What the hell?" 3rd, 4th, and 5th draws are "Well, OK..." Tokes 6-10 are "Hey, this is pretty good." 10-15 are "Pretty darn good," and by vape #20, "This is great!" It's like meeting someone who's not all that attractive to you at first glance, but whose comeliness and beauty emerge over time, so that eventually you find yourself entranced without knowing quite when that happened.

The combination of that "thick" piney tobacco and creamy vanilla with a little caramel to tie them together is unique and oddly addictive. Not very RY4-like, but who cares? Even after I vape BWB RY4 for 20 minutes, I'm not entirely convinced that I like it, per se, but I'm deeply satisfied anyway.

At this point, having vaped it off and on for almost three years, I feel that BWB RY4 deserves its legendary status. It does sort of break the mold for RY4s, however, and I occasionally wish that Don had given it a name other than RY4. But he didn't, so here we are.


Subjective comment, but I never made it to the 'Hey, this is pretty good' range with BWB RY4 and not because it didn't taste like RY4. I'm pretty much convinced it was the base tobacco. I never liked casablanca much either. But his Applewood is in my regular rotation (never had anything that is close to being that good) as is his Espresso and capp but that's part of a mix (low parts of capp but it does add something to the mix). The only non- Dec. Vapours flavors that I vape regularly. Ahl. JG blend is a pinch hitter right now but not a regular player ;)
 

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Subjective comment, but I never made it to the 'Hey, this is pretty good' range with BWB RY4 and not because it didn't taste like RY4. I'm pretty much convinced it was the base tobacco. I never liked casablanca much either. But his Applewood is in my regular rotation (never had anything that is close to being that good) as is his Espresso and capp but that's part of a mix (low parts of capp but it does add something to the mix). The only non- Dec. Vapours flavors that I vape regularly. Ahl. JG blend is a pinch hitter right now but not a regular player ;)

I spent about a year and a half not liking BWB RY4. Started out loving it, then fell out of love with it and remained separated for 18 months with less-than-wonderful feelings, then gingerly tried it again about two months ago and discovered, to my surprise, renewed appreciation and enjoyment.

I agree with your feelings about both Casablanca and Applewood. I liked Casablanca some early on, but it didn't hold up for me, and I've never liked it since. Applewood is nice, although I don't find myself vaping it much, so it must not be that good to me. I still have most of my second 15ml bottles of both, now 2 1/2 and 2 years old, respectively. Of the 12 BWB tobaccos I've purchased, I like only about a third of them.

Ahlusion JG Blend is (to me) a tasty and pleasing tobacco-coffee vape, but I've got at least three other tobacco-with-coffee or coffee-with-tobacco juices that I like just as well, including one made from my own home-brewed NET and NEC (naturally-extracted coffee). Assuming good tobacco and good coffee flavorings to begin with, the tobacco-coffee combination is hard to mess up.
 

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This thread has absolutely changed my vaping experience, no doubt. I have a mix of ECBlend RY4 and Vapor Knoll RY4 that is terrific, something I've been vaping for the last 8 hours. I have Heather's Heavenly Tobacco steeping on the shelf, life is good.

Thanks for starting this thread Bill, it is a wealth of knowledge and enjoyable to read every day. RY4 has really changed my vaping experience for the better. :thumb:
 

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What brand is it?
Er, there was only 1 RY4 back then. Made by Ludo (Janty) at the Dekang laboratory.
I still have quite some RY 1, 2, 3 and 4 left from those days.

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