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The REO Lounge - Part IV
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i think its because the vv chip has short protection and if goes to far out of range it will shut off
It's because a grand is a pure mechanical device without a wire in sight, so you can use anything at all on it. The vv has electronics. The electronics of most chips will, as Scotty says, refuse to fire at under about 1.2Ω, and that is true for all electronic mods, because they are trying to protect you from a short.
It's also because they are designed to step UP voltage rather than knock it down - so you will have better results on a vv Reo, by making, say a 2Ω coil and turning the power up.
Mechanical Reos (and mechanical mods in general) offer you no more protection than the spring melting, and not all mods even have that!
T
It's also because they are designed to step UP voltage rather than knock it down - so you will have better results on a vv Reo, by making, say a 2Ω coil and turning the power up.
Mechanical Reos (and mechanical mods in general) offer you no more protection than the spring melting, and not all mods even have that!
T
Thank you Sterno (Scotty?) and supertrunker!! Really appreciate you guys answering these questions.
Never was able to build a 2ohm coil. All mine come out extremely low no matter what I do.
On the regular grand since it's at 4.2v with a fully charged battery how low can you go with your coil? Is a lets say 0.6ohm coil so low it will melt the spring?
Thank you guys for the super reo awesome help
Never was able to build a 2ohm coil. All mine come out extremely low no matter what I do.
On the regular grand since it's at 4.2v with a fully charged battery how low can you go with your coil? Is a lets say 0.6ohm coil so low it will melt the spring?
Thank you guys for the super reo awesome help
Yep
Its the chip. It has a 15w limit on it. So if you go below 1.2Ω, the mod just won't fire at all. It has short protection too, so if it shorts, it won't fire. Kind of handy. The way I look at it, the VVs are great for those using standard and LR atties and cartos....The unregulated mods are great for the rebuilders and sub ohmers because you can still just as easily tune to taste. I was using my VV with my RM2 forever, but it was just recently that I realized I wasn't really using the VV function. 
ya, me too.
I have no idea what wire you are using - but i can assure you that you can hit a 2Ω coil if you use 32g kanthal wire wrapped around a 1/16" screwdriver 4 times.
If you use lower gauge wire (means it's thicker) then you need more wraps to get there.
I trust you have a multimeter or some other way to test your coils if you are making them yourself - if you don't - buy a meter! (cheap ones at say Harbor Freight are $10.
T
If you use lower gauge wire (means it's thicker) then you need more wraps to get there.
I trust you have a multimeter or some other way to test your coils if you are making them yourself - if you don't - buy a meter! (cheap ones at say Harbor Freight are $10.
T
Nationwide race buddy. Tune in for the final 30 laps of a superb race.
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0.6 should be okay, but you need to be aware that the unregulated mods using sub ohm coils require a more rigorous cleaning regimen due to oxidation build up on the positive battery contact. The new sub ohm kits should fix that need, but until you get one, I recommend a thorough cleaning about once a week when using sub ohm coils. See this video.
i like that signature H! always reminds me of "i have a can in my kitchen that says 'open other end', but it never is"
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You have a vv Reo grand - so you cannot get 0.6Ω to fire anyway!
But for the sake of hypotheticals, these are what i have found: 0.6Ω is fine all day long! Mod needs a clean - religiously once a week and a good file and Noalox too.
0.5 - easy tiger!
0.4Ω - ok - we are now in a phase where the spring will slowly die and collapse! and your battery will rattle, and you will push harder on the fire button and curse!
So: stay at 0.6 and over on a mechanical grand, clean it often, and ahhh! you're cool!
All bets are off when the sub-ohm kits come out - i fully expect to be running 0.4Ω all day BUT with the proper batteries!!
T
But for the sake of hypotheticals, these are what i have found: 0.6Ω is fine all day long! Mod needs a clean - religiously once a week and a good file and Noalox too.
0.5 - easy tiger!
0.4Ω - ok - we are now in a phase where the spring will slowly die and collapse! and your battery will rattle, and you will push harder on the fire button and curse!
So: stay at 0.6 and over on a mechanical grand, clean it often, and ahhh! you're cool!
All bets are off when the sub-ohm kits come out - i fully expect to be running 0.4Ω all day BUT with the proper batteries!!
T
Thank you all for the help and queen Lisa of course.
I got some 28gage kanthal wire from Rob or whatever that wire is called. On these tiny coils that you build on the needle (micro coil?) I can only use cotton to get it through the hole.
With the silica that I have there is no freaking way I will be able to ever wrap 14 times around with these sausage fingers lol.
@supertrunker: I know I can't go lower with my vv but was going to get a grand as well to try these sub ohm things as I never went there.
So basically the lower the rage on the wire the lower the ohm and the higher the gage the higher the ohm? Is there a place where you can buy these wires like a Home Depot or the like?
Sorry guys but I will pick this up quickly and will be done with all these questions.
Oh! To answer your question, I bought one of those ohm readers that tells me what ohm my coil or atty is but I don't have anything that tells me the voltage on my reo. I just put it all the way to 3.3v and go up till I found my sweet spot.
I got some 28gage kanthal wire from Rob or whatever that wire is called. On these tiny coils that you build on the needle (micro coil?) I can only use cotton to get it through the hole.
With the silica that I have there is no freaking way I will be able to ever wrap 14 times around with these sausage fingers lol.
@supertrunker: I know I can't go lower with my vv but was going to get a grand as well to try these sub ohm things as I never went there.
So basically the lower the rage on the wire the lower the ohm and the higher the gage the higher the ohm? Is there a place where you can buy these wires like a Home Depot or the like?
Sorry guys but I will pick this up quickly and will be done with all these questions.
Oh! To answer your question, I bought one of those ohm readers that tells me what ohm my coil or atty is but I don't have anything that tells me the voltage on my reo. I just put it all the way to 3.3v and go up till I found my sweet spot.
So basically the lower the rage on the wire the lower the ohm and the higher the gage the higher the ohm? Is there a place where you can buy these wires like a Home Depot or the like?
Yes to the first part and no to the second. They don't sell it. TEMCo Industrial Power Supply
These guys do - but in bulk (trust me - 200ft is nothing!)
It has to be resistance wire, made from kanthal or nichrome usually, ordinary copper wire from Home Depot will not work, because it will just cause your battery to overheat
The coil measurer is fine!
i use silica, i make the coil bigger by wrapping it round a screwdriver or a "bigger needle" if you like! Fit it in your RM2 and screw it down. Then take a small 3 inch piece of wire and fold it in half. Put it thru the coil you made, so you have a loop on the other side.
Pass the silica thru the loop of wire you just passed thru the coil and drag it back thru!
This is all because i am bone idle and all for easy coils. Oh , and i don't like cotton wicks.
Next: measure coil, i don't care on what, but make sure you do!
T
Yes to the first part and no to the second. They don't sell it. TEMCo Industrial Power Supply
These guys do - but in bulk (trust me - 200ft is nothing!)
It has to be resistance wire, made from kanthal or nichrome usually, ordinary copper wire from Home Depot will not work, because it will just cause your battery to overheat
The coil measurer is fine!
i use silica, i make the coil bigger by wrapping it round a screwdriver or a "bigger needle" if you like! Fit it in your RM2 and screw it down. Then take a small 3 inch piece of wire and fold it in half. Put it thru the coil you made, so you have a loop on the other side.
Pass the silica thru the loop of wire you just passed thru the coil and drag it back thru!
This is all because i am bone idle and all for easy coils. Oh , and i don't like cotton wicks.
Next: measure coil, i don't care on what, but make sure you do!
T
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