The Steam Co. Gentleman's Reserve vs. 5 Pawns Castle Long Reserve - Review

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This is a review of The Steam Co.'s Gentleman's Reserve as compared to 5 Pawns CLR. Posting this up separately (and slightly edited) since it's kind of buried in The Steam Co. thread.

Okay, here we go:

Gentleman's Reserve, 6mg, brewed 12/28, dripping in a single-microcoil Forge clone with a fresh boiled organic cotton wick.

Color: This is much lighter in color than CLR, almost clear with a tinge of yellow compared to CLR's medium-dark clear amber.


Viscosity: It's hard to tell because CLR is in a glass bottle and GR is in a plastic dropper with a very small tip, but I think the GR is little less viscous. My bottle of CLR is 2/3 empty though and it gets opened frequently because I drip, so age could have something to do with it.


Smell: They're close! If anything, I'd say the GR out of the bottle has stronger coconut and barrel/whiskey notes than the CLR. The CLR smells a little smoother and more vanilla-y, but not by much. I had to sniff the coffee canister in between sniffing the blends.


vape: Here we go! On the first couple of hits, it doesn't have that really rich whiskey flavor that CLR has. The notes kind of disappear into the background (this could be because of the fresh wick). The throat hit is there but more peppery. Several more hits in this is good, but it lacks the "punch" that CLR has, where it really whammies you with the flavor. With GR it's there but I have to look for it a little more. A few more hits and it's settling down and the whiskey is coming out to play a little more (which is my favorite part).

Okay, an hour later I can say I really like this. I closed down the air hole a bit on my dripper for more flavor and it's really popping now; if someone told me this was CLR, I would believe them. I have transferred the remainder of the bottle to a glass bottle and put it in the ultrasonic cleaner to see if that improves it even more, but it doesn't really need it and could be vaped right from the bottle. At the price I got it for ($15/30ml after a coupon code) this could become an ADV for me, and I'm notoriously fickle.


Verdict: I think if you weren't already spoiled by CLR this is a very standout product, especially at the price point. This is going to be the star in my rotation.


Also, excellent, excellent service from The Steam Co. Thumbs up for service too! I will definitely order from them again.
 
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tried GR yesterday for the first time, very delicious and complex... a $15 juice that is much better and way more complex than my $22 juices. steam co has some skills...

they proved that just because you aged a juice in an oak barrel for 2 weeks (steam co also ages this juice in oak barrels), you don't have to charge $40 for a 30ml bottle.
 

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This is a review of The Steam Co.'s Gentleman's Reserve as compared to 5 Pawns CLR...

Great review Coelli. I noted the same about the color. Might be flavorings and might be age. Anxiously awaiting my recently delivered bottle of GR to warm the heck up (it's currently 0 degrees where I am) so I can do a side by side with CLR and High Five. I'd love to post my findings here with your review so we can compare notes if that's alright.
 

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Alright, so the moment of truth for these 3 Liquids. Or as I'm now calling them, the Original and the Castle Long Replicas (High Five from Good Life Vapor and Gentleman's Reserve from The Steam Co.) I'm going to follow Coelli's more structured review criteria as I tend to stream of consciousness ramble on these things.

Some key factoids:
CLR = Castle Long Reserve @ 6mos steeped - 50/50 6mg
H5 = High Five @ 1.5mos steeped - high VG maybe 100% 6mg
GR = Gentleman's Reserve @ 1mos steeped (as indicated on new bottle) - 50/50 6mg

COLOR
CLR is a really nice ruddy amber color. I think of fall when I see this liquid. I think of Whiskey or Bourbon. Mmmmmm.
H5 is an amber but tinged with a bit more yellow. If you've had GLV's Deadly Sin, they're nearly identical in color.
GR is nearly clear with a tiny pop of color. Initially disappointed by this, but I'm sure my coils will thank me.

VISCOSITY
CLR has a good flow. Drips wonderfully and *GASP* behaves well in a tank!
H5 is a high VG juice and flows like molasses. Great dripping, don't bother with a tank.
GR behaves well on the dripper and in the PT2 I'm trying it in.

SMELL
Wow, CLR and GR are remarkably close in the bottle. GR has a pronounced coconut with a slight oakey/boozey top note.
H5 smells sweet with a vanilla overtone and cinnamon/baked goods top note. This one is rather different the the other two by my sniffer.

THE VAPE!
Here's where it gets interesting. CLR tastes soooo clean and harmonious. Dripping this brings out a genuine oak/booze flavor complimented from what I call a more vanilla bean essence than say garden variety vanilla extract. The exhale is more of the same, trailed by a lovely cinnamon note that lingers in the room. GR is so damn close but the flavors feel more dry in the mouth and not as well put together. The coconut and nutty/booziness dominate here, and if there's any vanilla going on it's just kind of adding a mild sweetness. There's a nice spice exhale with notes of cinnamon and coco. They work together really well, but they just don't blend as smoothly as CLR. H5 is something entirely different. Because of the high VG the mouthfeel is super creamy, almost wet feeling. The dominant flavor here is vanilla, almost too much, followed by a smattering of cinnamon/nutmeg and something oakey/boozey but in a more artificial way. The exhale and room note are very true to the initial flavors adding only a slight cake batter. Not as dry and savory as the other two. I'd say H5 has the most intense flavor profile of the 3, bordering on the sweetened.

FINAL THOUGHTS
CLR is a wonderfully blended juice. You can tell the individual flavors are unique and in my opinion well worth the expenditure. Like a good bourbon or whiskey it is to be savored and appreciated for it's complexities and and attention to detail. GR is so damn close to it's inspiration but feels fragmented in just a slight bit by comparison. Also the greater coconut presence over vanilla isn't my thing. Otherwise this is truly a remarkable juice. On it's own merits I'd highly recommend this to anyone that enjoys a complex and well nuanced vape. H5, while also a great juice, falls short if it was really meant to reference CLR. It's too creamy, sweet and just lacks the punch of savory the other two managed to achieve. I know it takes longer for flavors to gel in heavy VG juices, so maybe time will change this one some.

The biggest bummer for me however is with the GR. They must use real almond extract/flavoring because I'm allergic, and reacted immediately. Made it through a few good vapes to get a taste for it, but ultimately had to set it aside. This blows, because this is a damn good juice. If anyone has made it this far in my review, and is interested I have about 29ml to trade, maybe a swap for the Old English Orchard Reserve.
 

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Alright, so the moment of truth for these 3 Liquids. Or as I'm now calling them, the Original and the Castle Long Replicas (High Five from Good Life Vapor and Gentleman's Reserve from The Steam Co.) I'm going to follow Coelli's more structured review criteria as I tend to stream of consciousness ramble on these things.

Some key factoids:
CLR = Castle Long Reserve @ 6mos steeped - 50/50 6mg
H5 = High Five @ 1.5mos steeped - high VG maybe 100% 6mg
GR = Gentleman's Reserve @ 1mos steeped (as indicated on new bottle) - 50/50 6mg

COLOR
CLR is a really nice ruddy amber color. I think of fall when I see this liquid. I think of Whiskey or Bourbon. Mmmmmm.
H5 is an amber but tinged with a bit more yellow. If you've had GLV's Deadly Sin, they're nearly identical in color.
GR is nearly clear with a tiny pop of color. Initially disappointed by this, but I'm sure my coils will thank me.

VISCOSITY
CLR has a good flow. Drips wonderfully and *GASP* behaves well in a tank!
H5 is a high VG juice and flows like molasses. Great dripping, don't bother with a tank.
GR behaves well on the dripper and in the PT2 I'm trying it in.

SMELL
Wow, CLR and GR are remarkably close in the bottle. GR has a pronounced coconut with a slight oakey/boozey top note.
H5 smells sweet with a vanilla overtone and cinnamon/baked goods top note. This one is rather different the the other two by my sniffer.

THE VAPE!
Here's where it gets interesting. CLR tastes soooo clean and harmonious. Dripping this brings out a genuine oak/booze flavor complimented from what I call a more vanilla bean essence than say garden variety vanilla extract. The exhale is more of the same, trailed by a lovely cinnamon note that lingers in the room. GR is so damn close but the flavors feel more dry in the mouth and not as well put together. The coconut and nutty/booziness dominate here, and if there's any vanilla going on it's just kind of adding a mild sweetness. There's a nice spice exhale with notes of cinnamon and coco. They work together really well, but they just don't blend as smoothly as CLR. H5 is something entirely different. Because of the high VG the mouthfeel is super creamy, almost wet feeling. The dominant flavor here is vanilla, almost too much, followed by a smattering of cinnamon/nutmeg and something oakey/boozey but in a more artificial way. The exhale and room note are very true to the initial flavors adding only a slight cake batter. Not as dry and savory as the other two. I'd say H5 has the most intense flavor profile of the 3, bordering on the sweetened.

FINAL THOUGHTS
CLR is a wonderfully blended juice. You can tell the individual flavors are unique and in my opinion well worth the expenditure. Like a good bourbon or whiskey it is to be savored and appreciated for it's complexities and and attention to detail. GR is so damn close to it's inspiration but feels fragmented in just a slight bit by comparison. Also the greater coconut presence over vanilla isn't my thing. Otherwise this is truly a remarkable juice. On it's own merits I'd highly recommend this to anyone that enjoys a complex and well nuanced vape. H5, while also a great juice, falls short if it was really meant to reference CLR. It's too creamy, sweet and just lacks the punch of savory the other two managed to achieve. I know it takes longer for flavors to gel in heavy VG juices, so maybe time will change this one some.

The biggest bummer for me however is with the GR. They must use real almond extract/flavoring because I'm allergic, and reacted immediately. Made it through a few good vapes to get a taste for it, but ultimately had to set it aside. This blows, because this is a damn good juice. If anyone has made it this far in my review, and is interested I have about 29ml to trade, maybe a swap for the Old English Orchard Reserve.
Really nice review!! Sorry to hear about your allergy!
 

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The biggest bummer for me however is with the GR. They must use real almond extract/flavoring because I'm allergic, and reacted immediately. Made it through a few good vapes to get a taste for it, but ultimately had to set it aside. This blows, because this is a damn good juice. If anyone has made it this far in my review, and is interested I have about 29ml to trade, maybe a swap for the Old English Orchard Reserve.

Great review, and cool to have them all in one place. :) I think I'll skip the High Five, it doesn't sound like my kind of vape.

That's a bummer about the Gentleman's Review causing a reaction. :(
 

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Thanks for this thread, Coelli!

Dustmite, the GR bottle lists only "natural" ingredients (!), so it must be the natural almond extract aggravating your allergies. :(

Indeed they are, and a real bummer too...well for me anyway. Thankfully I find the Orchard Reserve to be damn good as well, (and allergen free!) so all is not lost with the Steam Co. Reserves!
 
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