This is all a PITA!

[yo vapo]

PLEASE, does anyone know of a reliable juice delivery / atomizing system that JUST WORKS?

I am sick to death of burning wicks, tight draws, and flooding, gurgling cartos. I am sick of ego t tanks and the reduced flavor as well as the burning wicks there too.

I don't want to drip, and if that is my only solution, then screw it. I'm looking for a trouble-free system. In my limited experience I doubt that's possible, so the least troublesome system might have to do. Something I can assemble in the morning and it will last all day without having to mess with it.

I've tried cartos, SR & LR, slotted & punched in tanks & out, ce2s, the egoT atty/tank system, and there is little joy in any of that. The easiest system to maintain a decent draw is the ego-T system, but its other disadvantages kill it for me otherwise. I get a decent draw for maybe an hour out of a carto in a tank, and it has gone to hell pretty much in one tankful (~3ml) of liquid. Out of a dozen or so cartos I've been through in the last couple of weeks, maybe two have been somewhat satisfactory, one of those actually being good. It lasted nearly a week; I'm lucky to get a day out of a carto normally. CE2s (fluxomizers) just plain suck right out of the box.

I have no problem w/ batteries or electronics, it's the juice system that is killing this for me. The battery part of the equation is a mature technology which works.

I'm willing to try just about anything at this point. I'd like to stick with a carto / tank system if that's possible. But if not, please suggest something that works and is not terribly troublesome. And if you have an idea I haven't tried, would you please let me know where to get it?

/end rant

Thanks

 

[5vz]

Well, it has been my experience that all of it can be a pain. I even quit vaping for 6 months and started smoking again, not jut b/c there are so many things to do with vaping, but b/c of stress and weak will. I don't want anyone to do that.

Honestly, a big bat mod and cartos work. Otherwise, you are looking at a set up like a GGTS with AVS (I don't know anything about the newer GG stuff as that is not on my budget). This thing runs like a champ for days with it's own tank full of juice and an atty. However, other than changing batteries ever few days, it can be a pain to learn about o-rings, what to put where and what to tighten where. Maintenance can become an issue, depending on the user. Also, not inexpensive by any means.

I really think just a big bat mod and a carto with not so full a refill is the best way to go if you don't like fooling around with stuff much and are not into dripping. Don't know if anything else has been perfected for even easier on the user vaping yet or not. Maybe someone with newer equipment will come along and comment for you. You may even be recommended a bottom feeder Reo, don't get a cheap plastic box bottom feeder though. They break easily and can be faulty.

 

[markfm]

I've been content with fusion cartos in an m1a1 tank for months. I slot the cartos with a dremel, run 22 - 24 ml of a fairly clear eliquid, 3 - 4 days, between changes.

 

[440BB]

The least troublesome setup for me is a dual coil XL steel 1.5 ohm carto filled with Halo juice. The reason I point out the juice is that it's thin enough with so little residue that it causes no problems with wicking and the carto's draw stays airy for many refills. I don't know what types of juice you like but keeping it thin and clear is my best solution for a simple trusty all day vape. I use steel since it lasts without tube leaks for the life of the carto. I use that setup on 3.7 volt mods and eGo batteries and get consistent results. To get the most vape time I will fill it up until it's a little gurgly (not a word!) then blow it out into a tissue a bit and I'm good to go all day, but I always have a spare filled carto with me too. Good luck finding your sweet spot!

 

[Homedude]

Have you tried the EMDCCs ? I'm one of those weirdos that actually prefers a tight draw and the EMDCC was just too loose and airy for me. They did produce a nice flavor, though. I did have trouble with the clear tube cracking after a week of light useage but I don't know if the solid ones are more sturdy.

 

[r77r7r]

Are you tightening your cartos down too hard? That'll cut-off the airflow.

 

[yo vapo]

Honestly, a big bat mod and cartos work. Otherwise, you are looking at a set up like a GGTS with AVS (I don't know anything about the newer GG stuff as that is not on my budget). This thing runs like a champ for days with it's own tank full of juice and an atty. However, other than changing batteries ever few days, it can be a pain to learn about o-rings, what to put where and what to tighten where. Maintenance can become an issue, depending on the user. Also, not inexpensive by any means.

I've glanced at that, it looked complicated, as you say. I'll take another look though. I don't mind a certain amount of fiddling around with stuff, as long as it is productive, i.e. it works! This messing with stuff I've been having to do lately is more like pouring money and heartache down a rat hole. It's definitely time for a leap forward in this technology. Or, if there has been such a leap, I need to find out about it, LOL.

I really think just a big bat mod and a carto with not so full a refill is the best way to go if you don't like fooling around with stuff much and are not into dripping. Don't know if anything else has been perfected for even easier on the user vaping yet or not. Maybe someone with newer equipment will come along and comment for you. You may even be recommended a bottom feeder Reo, don't get a cheap plastic box bottom feeder though. They break easily and can be faulty.

Yeah, I thought I was in heaven with a big batt box mod and carto tank combo... at first. Then things went south. :/ I've kinda looked at bottom feeders, and ehh...hmm.. But I'll take another look, thanks.

Fusion cartos. I'll look for them, thanks! I've been using Boges.
EDIT: Ah, the Fusions are 801. Still, it's worth a try with an adapter.

What brand of XL are those, 440BB? And you're not using them in a carto tank, right?
You're probably right about the thickness of the juice too. I've been trying lots of different ones, ov varying viscosity. That could be a big part of my problem too. Thanks much.

 

[yo vapo]

I'll check them out, Homedude, thanks.

R77r7r, I don't think so. I tighten them just enough so they don't feel loose & wobbly.

 

[JollyRogers]

One of my most trouble free setups for out and about is the smoktech DC eGo cartomizers on an eGo-T battery. I fill one in the evening before work and the next day just vape it all day. The only problem is filling them. I use a syringe or drip into it. I find they will leak out when first filled if you over fill it. So I gently blow them out into a paper towel to ensure they are clear of flooding. A little juice waste and messy yes, but the juice i use is inexpensive and the cartos are also. I have been using one for almost 2 months with COV vg in it and it still works great.

I also use an AVS (for 901 atty) or UFS (for 510 atty) with GGTS. It is a great setup and I love them. But I would never recommend someone to purchase one unless they are dedicated to vaping.

 

[Dougiestyle]

Keep in mind how much time, gas, money was involved with smoking cigaettes. Now, remember the smell, rotten breath, coughing and going outside or being confined to the "smoking area".

Is the maintenance and fiddling with vaping equipment THAT much worse?

My best experience with vaping has been with pre-drilled Smoktech XL DC cartos in a DCT set-up on top of a big battery VV mod or, just recently, finding the Vapage V-Mod XL 18650 bottomfeeder with DC cartos or LR atties. With the bigdaddyvapor tank or one of the other DCTs, yeah, the flavor falls off, but it's still hella better than a stink-azz cigarette!

If you're pitching cartos after 3mL, maybe your standards in flavor/vapor are too high and you should go back to, aw, nevermind, that's not any better!

 

[EmmaJo]

I have absolutely no advice for you as I don't know a thing about all the differet mods and goo-gadgets but I do hope you find a good set up that suit you. Personally, I found the tornado tank and it's been great for me. I fill a couple of carts in the morning and use a passthrough. I'm good to go. and now they've come out with the new system where you can replace your atomizer and I will be trying that this week. Seems more economical since you can just pitch the atomizer when it's worn out and pop in a new one.

 

[Vapeterry]

My story is similar so i decided to focus on one delivery system mainly, to learn it well b/c everything seems to have a learning curve anyway. What i have researched is the Genesis type atty tank systems & i am going with it, may not be as easy to begin with yet i believe in the long haul it will prove to be worth the effort. Good Luck with your search!

 

[KeysBum]

I've been through lots of stuff and feel your pain. For the last several months I've settled into the KISS mode. I use a Buzz Pro and Boge 3.0 Cartos. No tank. I tried them, but after haveing them come apart in my pocket and getting juice all over me, I went back to simple, cheap cartos. I use a carto for 3 days and pitch it and screw on a new one. Easy. First fill of the carto.. 1ml liquid with a syringe. Takes 1 minute if that. I carry a 5 ml bottle of the juice I'm vaping with me. Several times a day I pop off the drip tip, drip in 8-10 drops and I'm good for several hours. It takes about as much time as getting a cigarette out of the box, tapping it and lighting it. But I did that 20-30 times a day.

 

[440BB]

What brand of XL are those, 440BB? And you're not using them in a carto tank, right?

Regular Smoktech dual coils, no tank for me. I do use a delrin drip tip so I can top off easily plus I like the feel. I need my pv to be pocketable, dropped, tossed on a car seat or in the console without worry. I'm normally using it on a Roughstack, which I believe I can run over. I've chipped it, scratched it and it just keeps on tickin'. I do like CE2 steel for the flavor but only to use standing up at home as a quasi-dripper - too fussy for the road.

You might also be able to thin your juice with a little pg to get a better flow/wick, as long as you can start with a strong enough flavor and nic level to still like the juice. I drip the dark and thick ones at home since I know my carto won't be happy.

One more thing - sometimes after a few top-offs of slightly thicker juice, I've found that the juice at the bottom of the carto is the darker thicker stuff due to left over byproducts of atomizing liquid. I don't actually clean them often, instead I just overfill a bit and blow it out hard a few times to get the darker thicker liquid out, then top it off. Instantly better draw and flavor about 80% of the time. If not, I put it aside for cleaning and if that doesn't work it's time to toss.

 

[yo vapo]

Is the maintenance and fiddling with vaping equipment THAT much worse?

Actually I'm a guy who likes to tinker with stuff; I just like to feel like I'm doing some good. Hate to waste a tinker. ;-)

If you're pitching cartos after 3mL, maybe your standards in flavor/vapor are too high and you should go back to, aw, nevermind, that's not any better!

You're probably right. I like a carto just the way it is when it's brand new. It quickly goes downhill from there. I don't actually pitch it after 3-4 ml, that's just when I start cussing it -- first time it floods.

Anyway, I'm sticking with vaping. I'll find something that works. I appreciate all y'all's help; all useful advice which I will now study up on. I've just ordered some fusions, and I'll go through this thread checking it all out.

y'all

 

[Shizzle]

i agree with Homedude on the Ego Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers (EMDCC's)...can vape all dang day on one super easy fill, easy draw, tons of vapor, good taste, and they last and last...well, so long as you're not using thick, dark, and/or syrupy sweet e-liquids, that is.

i recently changed what i vape specifically because i was sick of tossing cartos (regardless of brand/type) after 1-2 days. i now only buy clear or light colored juice, 80pg/20vg, without heavy sweeteners (my current fave is V4L Peppermint)...and i now get 1-2 *weeks* out of my cartos.

 

[bmwjen]

your answer is simple
buy a reo
reosmods.com
yeah, i like other exotic mods, but the reo simply works EVERY SINGLE HIT!

 

[fishface]

I played around with tanks, attys drip methods ,carto tanks, clearos, smokeys, spent alot of money.
the most trouble free easy grab and go setup for me is a rio and boge lr cartomizer
the boges are high quality low price , the rio is quality mod, easy to use.
I too got sick of carrying juice bottles, extra cartos filling all the time, dripping constantly

there are other cheeper price bottom feeders, boge revolution, v mod I have tried these i like the reo better you may like the
them others like them.

for me bottom feeders are the way to go for easy vapeing
good luck on your journey to find your perfect vape

 

[yo vapo]

Thanks, Jen and Fishface. I'm studying them hard.

EDIT: And yeah, I'm going to be more careful about my juice. Though I like the massive vapor from VG, I'm sticking with no more than 20% VG for the time being.

Still checking out all the other great advice too.

 

[EagleHawk]

your answer is simple
buy a reo
reosmods.com
yeah, i like other exotic mods, but the reo simply works EVERY SINGLE HIT!

I have to concur.. I have more mods than I care to list, more tanks, cartos, blahblahblah.... I use my Reo Grand everyday, all day. I run at 6volts with Tenergy 3v batts, and an IkenVape I06 3.5ohm... I usually get about a month out of each atty, the 6ml bottle lasts me all day. This has been the best vaping year I've had; since I got my REO