I agree. We started with the Bloog MaxxFusion also. We had no problems, except for continuous stock issues but the quality is there! My hubby justcdecided to move on to the Reo mod, but I'm still staying right here
This is so frustrating...to the point where I want to go back to analogs
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I agree. We started with the Bloog MaxxFusion also. We had no problems, except for continuous stock issues but the quality is there! My hubby justcdecided to move on to the Reo mod, but I'm still staying right here
Dont give up... it can be expensive and frustrating to figure out at first, but it will level off and you'll find your sweet spot!!!
Like any new thing, it takes to time to figure out. Learn by trial and error... and pick up the rest here on ECF. Any problem that you can have/are having, someone else has already had it and can help you figure it out!
Protip... Ikenvape.com makes amazing atomizers... Backwoodsbrew.net makes amazing juices : )
This thread keeps my atomizers running... The atty is the weakest point on a PV, but you can make them last a long, long time!
Like any new thing, it takes to time to figure out. Learn by trial and error... and pick up the rest here on ECF. Any problem that you can have/are having, someone else has already had it and can help you figure it out!
Protip... Ikenvape.com makes amazing atomizers... Backwoodsbrew.net makes amazing juices : )
This thread keeps my atomizers running... The atty is the weakest point on a PV, but you can make them last a long, long time!
I use 18mg juice..80 PG/20VG usually. I did get my Riva from LF. The guys there have been nothing but kind and understanding. They have replaced my batteries no questions asked. As for the adapter, I got the one that said I could attach my 901 batt to my 510 atomizer. It fits the atomizer but not the battery.
Kinaw...hi,
reading your post had me in stitches. That is so similar to how i feel. I get all cross and frustrated with my e cig equipment at times. I've only got a mini e cig with something better now on the way.
I don't know if i should say this but well...... cut yourself some slack here. You have stumbled onto a great way of weaning yourself off of analogs. It's always gonna be there. If your equipment isn't working right then smoke until you've got properly set up.
If you're like me and go a little ballistic without smoking then really you don't wanna risk upsetting evryone and everything and arguing like crazy. When all you gotta do is get set up properly and you can quit. You know it works. You know how amazing it is.
When your going cold turkey it is absolutely vital that you never have a smoke again. Because as we all know 1 leads to 20 leads to hundreds again. But with e smoking its not the case. You could smoke the odd one till your set up and then go all out again.
My advice to you probably flies in the face of what it is your trying to achieve. But you will get there. I can tell from the tone of your post.
reading your post had me in stitches. That is so similar to how i feel. I get all cross and frustrated with my e cig equipment at times. I've only got a mini e cig with something better now on the way.
I don't know if i should say this but well...... cut yourself some slack here. You have stumbled onto a great way of weaning yourself off of analogs. It's always gonna be there. If your equipment isn't working right then smoke until you've got properly set up.
If you're like me and go a little ballistic without smoking then really you don't wanna risk upsetting evryone and everything and arguing like crazy. When all you gotta do is get set up properly and you can quit. You know it works. You know how amazing it is.
When your going cold turkey it is absolutely vital that you never have a smoke again. Because as we all know 1 leads to 20 leads to hundreds again. But with e smoking its not the case. You could smoke the odd one till your set up and then go all out again.
My advice to you probably flies in the face of what it is your trying to achieve. But you will get there. I can tell from the tone of your post.
I am thinking of going back to analogs for health reasons myself! But I prefer vaping but after reading the new report from the FDA.. seems ecigs are worse then analogs read this snip> The stuff has antifreeze in it. I'm doing more research before I switch back, but this is a very alarming report!
We felt it important that while there is litigation and we are considering options, there is no reason to be confused about FDA's position on this issue," Joshua Sharfstein, MD, FDA principal deputy commissioner, said.
At the news conference, FDA analyst Benjamin Westenberger described testing 19 cartridges from the two e-cigarettes at the FDA's St. Louis facility. Among the findings:
All but one cartridge marked as having no nicotine actually contained the addictive substance.
Cartridges marked as having low, medium, or high amounts of nicotine actually had varying amounts of nicotine.
One of the cartridges contained a toxic antifreeze ingredient, diethylene glycol.
The devices emitted "tobacco-specific nitrosamines which are human carcinogens."
The devices emitted "tobacco-specific impurities suspected of being harmful to humans."
The FDA news conference also featured experts who issued strong warnings against e-cigarettes.
We felt it important that while there is litigation and we are considering options, there is no reason to be confused about FDA's position on this issue," Joshua Sharfstein, MD, FDA principal deputy commissioner, said.
At the news conference, FDA analyst Benjamin Westenberger described testing 19 cartridges from the two e-cigarettes at the FDA's St. Louis facility. Among the findings:
All but one cartridge marked as having no nicotine actually contained the addictive substance.
Cartridges marked as having low, medium, or high amounts of nicotine actually had varying amounts of nicotine.
One of the cartridges contained a toxic antifreeze ingredient, diethylene glycol.
The devices emitted "tobacco-specific nitrosamines which are human carcinogens."
The devices emitted "tobacco-specific impurities suspected of being harmful to humans."
The FDA news conference also featured experts who issued strong warnings against e-cigarettes.
Best lion.. they do seem bent on putting the scare stories out there.
Take at look at the facts that we already know about analogs. Are they going to ban them ?????
How can govt.s around the world allow cigarettes....known killers....with untold poisons in them to be sold legitimately.
How can a govt. even consider banning an alternative that can be used to quit the poisonous killer cigarettes ?
Something is not right here.
Take at look at the facts that we already know about analogs. Are they going to ban them ?????
How can govt.s around the world allow cigarettes....known killers....with untold poisons in them to be sold legitimately.
How can a govt. even consider banning an alternative that can be used to quit the poisonous killer cigarettes ?
Something is not right here.
Del Boy, the scary part is they found antifreeze in one of the carts.. so are ejuices containing antifreeze? nicotine aint my trouble..it is similar to caffeine, I enjoy coffee, and nicotine, helps calm me.
I hear AND I've felt your pain - I first ordered in January (1st), discovered this forum after I ordered and the order the end of March was the first time I wasn't crazily waiting around for the mailman! I started with a kr808d kit and had one battery crap out right away, the vendor I ordered from (Prime Vapor) promptly sent out a new one, saying that sometimes they are defective - - In January, February and first part of March, I gave in and got regular cigs, because either I hadn't ordered enough juice, I screwed my battery into the USB charger to tight and broke it, or the extra long, low resistance cartomizers I ordered weren't a good match for the battery I had... the list goes on and on- -
But it does even out, you do find the juices you like, you get into the groove on battery charging and filling carts and recognizing how much juice you're going through - -
Hang in there and keep your chin up - the gravel gets rough!
Did they say where the cartridges were bought ? How do you know these "tests" are legitimate ?
There is an awful lot a stake here. Vaping is something that is on the verge of taking off. Cigarette companies could see prifits totally collapse. E cigs are so cheap that even people from 3rd world countries (where the percentage of smokers is much higher) could buy them. There is much to take into account here.
Do you really think that people making and selling e liquid would put anti-freeze in the mix ? The e liquid producers have a lot to lose too if they give govt anything to get their teeth into.
I think you, or at least Canadians and Americans, are going to have to accept that their govt. is going to do what it wants whatever the "truth" is.
They better not start this old rubbish here in the uk. The e cig thing is only just beginning to catch on here.
Bit of a coincidence too that now it's getting bigger in the states the FDA are actually gonna do some tests. If it had stayed small they wouldn't have bothered.
There is an awful lot a stake here. Vaping is something that is on the verge of taking off. Cigarette companies could see prifits totally collapse. E cigs are so cheap that even people from 3rd world countries (where the percentage of smokers is much higher) could buy them. There is much to take into account here.
Do you really think that people making and selling e liquid would put anti-freeze in the mix ? The e liquid producers have a lot to lose too if they give govt anything to get their teeth into.
I think you, or at least Canadians and Americans, are going to have to accept that their govt. is going to do what it wants whatever the "truth" is.
They better not start this old rubbish here in the uk. The e cig thing is only just beginning to catch on here.
Bit of a coincidence too that now it's getting bigger in the states the FDA are actually gonna do some tests. If it had stayed small they wouldn't have bothered.
Hear-Hear!
You can count on government intervention the minute they find something they can make money off of regulating, overseeing or controlling - all under the guise of "keeping us safe"
Ya...sounds like you have had a rough ride too! I am feeling better today though. I have been on this forum for awhile now and am still totally confused sometimes (well most of the time). There is just so much information on which PV to buy, what carts to use, so on. I am waiting for the day when I actually start saving money! My husband will blow a gasket if I buy more juice....oh well. What we spend on 5 small bottles of juice roughly equals our pack a day habit. So, there's my justification!
I can truly relate to what you are saying i have been there and done that with a Volcano standard kit that i purchased awhile ago..I was having different problems with not only the batteries but also the atomizers and got so frustrated with it that after awhile went back to smoking analogs...After doing some research and being disgusted with smoking again i've decided to give it another chance with a Joye 510 that i am currently awaiting in the mail today or tomorrow.
BestLion, please. Do yourself a favor and research these "studies" CASAA is a great place to start looking into it (click the link in my signature). The FDA has an "agenda" with ecigs, they want to control and regulate them, for reasons that will become apparent as you do some checking. For example, the nitrosamines that they found. Yes, they are there, but they failed to mention that they are at the same level as found in nicotine patches. As is often the case, the FDA released the supposed "data" in a scare tactic. The FDA has a vested interest in keeping ecigs off the market, take ANYthing they say with a grain of salt and do your own research.
BTW, did you know that tomatoes also contain that dreaded "addictive substance", nicotine?
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I'm skeptical about this to begin with. But if it proves anything, it proves that the juice vendor that made their carts needs to go out of business and the sooner the better, not necessarily the effectiveness or content of all e-cigarettes.
If safety's a concern, then I really do recommend allaying your fears by making your own juice. Not only is it fun and easy--it really is--but it gives you full control over what exactly goes into your juice and in what amounts. It's also much cheaper than purchasing premade juice, and even cheaper than buying prefilled cartos.
I really like my Joye 510. It works great! The only reaons I got the Riva was for the battery life, not because I was displeased with the 510.
I would recommend that you check out the Bloog Maxx fusion. I've been using one for about a month and have been quite happy with it. There is a sub forum at this forum:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/bloog-electronic-cigarette/
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/bloog-electronic-cigarette/
Well this is not the first article I read bad news about ecigs. I am doing my own study, but ecigs have not been tested in labs, and with health industry.
I buy Dekang juice, and wrote Dekang and they claim all their juice is 100% safe 'so they claim' they said they dont have anti freeze contamination in any of their juice.. so i hope this is true. If they are telling lies they need to be shut down ASAP!
i really dont want to go back to cigs. I enjoy vaping, the flavor-taste- enjoyment-pleasure etc... but if this stuff is harmful, I then feel maybe cigarettes are the lesser of the two evils.
I buy Dekang juice, and wrote Dekang and they claim all their juice is 100% safe 'so they claim' they said they dont have anti freeze contamination in any of their juice.. so i hope this is true. If they are telling lies they need to be shut down ASAP!
i really dont want to go back to cigs. I enjoy vaping, the flavor-taste- enjoyment-pleasure etc... but if this stuff is harmful, I then feel maybe cigarettes are the lesser of the two evils.
I've been vaping for over a year. Been though 510 standard, Ego, Wetbox carts cartos, KR808D adapters, etc. Now I have finally found the best system IMHO. It's the Reo mini. I have two of them, one gloss black and the other is matte black.
They're not cheap though at around 140 bucks shipped but it's almost bulletproof. It's all mechanical so no wires. The Reo mini holds a 3ml bottle and the Reo holds 6ml.
One of the upsides is that the batteries are much cheaper, about 7.50 for the IMR 14500s (5 volt when combined with a 1.5 low resistance atomizer), than replacing Egos at about 24. I rotate three or four batts through the day/evening, charging them as they expire. They last 3 to 4 hours each. I have two Ultrafire WF-139 chargers, one for work and one for home. I have an adapter for the car too. Radio Shack.
Right now Reos are very hard to get and you have to keep an eye on when available through the forum or e-mail but they are top of the line stuff. The last e-cig I'll have to buy. Now it's just about 20-25 a month to keep up with attys and juice.
The cheapest and best juice I've found is Tasty Vapor. I buy the 4oz doublers which are the PG/VG and flavor and mix into my own nicotine. To get 16mg juice I mix 2.4ml of nic with about 12.6 of the doubler. A DIY juice calculator does that for me.
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They're not cheap though at around 140 bucks shipped but it's almost bulletproof. It's all mechanical so no wires. The Reo mini holds a 3ml bottle and the Reo holds 6ml.
One of the upsides is that the batteries are much cheaper, about 7.50 for the IMR 14500s (5 volt when combined with a 1.5 low resistance atomizer), than replacing Egos at about 24. I rotate three or four batts through the day/evening, charging them as they expire. They last 3 to 4 hours each. I have two Ultrafire WF-139 chargers, one for work and one for home. I have an adapter for the car too. Radio Shack.
Right now Reos are very hard to get and you have to keep an eye on when available through the forum or e-mail but they are top of the line stuff. The last e-cig I'll have to buy. Now it's just about 20-25 a month to keep up with attys and juice.
The cheapest and best juice I've found is Tasty Vapor. I buy the 4oz doublers which are the PG/VG and flavor and mix into my own nicotine. To get 16mg juice I mix 2.4ml of nic with about 12.6 of the doubler. A DIY juice calculator does that for me.
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As I recall, it was found in very small quantities (less than 1%) in one out of 18 njoy cartos tested. It wasn't found in the other 17. We all know that Chinese quality control isn't the best. Your statement is the equivalent of saying that all toys are dangerous because a Chinese company put lead in the paint for some they made for Mattel. Or that all baby formula is dangerous because a Chinese company made a dangerous batch. That small amount isn't much of a problem especially compared to the toxins in cigarettes but, if you're really worried about it, don't buy pre-filled cartos and buy your juice from an American manufacturer.
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