"Those things blow up in your face!"

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EBates

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Here in California or the DPRC, there are ridiculous warning labels everywhere.

I kid you not, the fast food joints have signs saying "contains chemicals known to the state of California that can cause cancer" on the front door.

At some of the fast food joints the cancer causing chems could be the best part.:facepalm:
Just sayin'.
I think a really good Nanny Label should read: If you are too Stupid to be able operate this item Safely. Step Away From The Item NOW!
 

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At some of the fast food joints the cancer causing chems could be the best part.:facepalm:
Just sayin'.
I think a really good Nanny Label should read: If you are too Stupid to be able operate this item Safely. Step Away From The Item NOW!
LOL

On every slice of pizza in the whole damn pie.

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Its sad to see a day and age
where common sense is so far gone that everybody blames somebody else for their own
mistakes. I knew since I was really little, that you keep metal objects away from
electrical objects. But apparently this is a hard concept, and you have to spell it out
these days for everybody to understand. Especially the younger crowd here, I may only
be 22 myself, but I also know safety when it comes to electricity, and it drives me
nuts to see people have no regard for this and just do whatever they want, then turn
around and blame the company.

Bumping this with emphasis added for clarity and the knelling of Truth. Will agree
that I like someone to ensure a general purpose guarantee of reasonable safety in
products. Do not agree that such a guarantee ought to extend protection to cover user /
consumer stupidity. People at large ought to accept a fair share of responsibility.

I think a really good Nanny Label
should read: If you are too Stupid to be able operate this item Safely. Step Away From
The Item NOW!

The trouble with this being ... oh, wait. I see what you do there. If they are too
stupid to read the label, they'll eventually wind up killing themselves off. Ha! Great
plan. ;) :) :D Seems to worked well for Big tobacco as well. D'oh.

After reading all this for
some reason I developed a mental picture of someone running with scissors lol don't
ask me why

Careful, some of us here do at times run with scissors. ;) :) :D * Points in the
general direction of where he thinks the invisible Bad Ninja is hiding. Then, points
too at self with three other fingers.
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Bumping this with emphasis added for clarity and the knelling of Truth. Will agree
that I like someone to ensure a general purpose guarantee of reasonable safety in
products. Do not agree that such a guarantee ought to extend protection to cover user /
consumer stupidity. People at large ought to accept a fair share of responsibility.
Sadly, we live in a society now where taking responsibility is becoming a thing of the past. There is always somebody to point the finger at, and best believe, the majority of the time the finger will be pointed in the wrong direction. If a manufacturer does their best to provide the safest, highest quality product, and the user chooses to mess that up, the user instantly removes any blame from themselves, and cannot accept the responsibility that their face is burnt due to THEIR own personal bad decisions, and inability to be safe.
 

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Bumping this with emphasis added for clarity and the knelling of Truth. Will agree
that I like someone to ensure a general purpose guarantee of reasonable safety in
products. Do not agree that such a guarantee ought to extend protection to cover user /
consumer stupidity. People at large ought to accept a fair share of responsibility.



The trouble with this being ... oh, wait. I see what you do there. If they are too
stupid to read the label, they'll eventually wind up killing themselves off. Ha! Great
plan. ;) :) :D Seems to worked well for Big Tobacco as well. D'oh.



Careful, some of us here do at times run with scissors. ;) :) :D * Points in the
general direction of where he thinks the invisible Bad Ninja is hiding. Then, points
too at self with three other fingers.
*

Sad to say but the 'victim' mentality is the mantra of our politically correct society.
The 'everybody plays, everybody gets a trophy' approach is a prime contributer to kids growing up expecting to be rewarded for doing nothing. Retribution for error is cruel and unusual punishment (regardless of it being physical or mental). With this sort of Nanny mentality being pushed since birth why would our mistakes/stupidity not be someone else's fault?
 

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Sad to say but the 'victim' mentality is the mantra of our politically correct society.
The 'everybody plays, everybody gets a trophy' approach is a prime contributer to kids growing up expecting to be rewarded for doing nothing. Retribution for error is cruel and unusual punishment (regardless of it being physical or mental). With this sort of Nanny mentality being pushed since birth why would our mistakes/stupidity not be someone else's fault?
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This is what happens when you let lawyers control society!!
 

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Sad to say but the 'victim' mentality is the mantra of our politically correct society.
The 'everybody plays, everybody gets a trophy' approach is a prime contributer to kids growing up expecting to be rewarded for doing nothing. Retribution for error is cruel and unusual punishment (regardless of it being physical or mental). With this sort of Nanny mentality being pushed since birth why would our mistakes/stupidity not be someone else's fault?

Political correctness is a huge problem.
It directly hinders your right to free speech.
It promotes a slave mentality.
 

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I have always been a firm believer in Natural Selection, tis a wonderful thing.
But, wouldn't that require warning labels to be on stupid folks, to protect the bystanders? :facepalm:
OMG, did I really say that?
Just sayin'
I mean, you bring up a valid point LOL. But most of the time they don't need a label, they're pretty good at showing the stupidity themselves.
 

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Sadly, we live in a society now where taking responsibility is becoming a thing of the past. There is always somebody to point the finger at, and best believe, the majority of the time the finger will be pointed in the wrong direction. If a manufacturer does their best to provide the safest, highest quality product, and the user chooses to mess that up, the user instantly removes any blame from themselves, and cannot accept the responsibility that their face is burnt due to THEIR own personal bad decisions, and inability to be safe.

I do agree but also leave about a two or three percent fudge factor. Poop always does happen and it has proven to do so time and time again. That is what I leave for the fudge factor. Life also includes death. To me that says life is the ultimate cosmic joke. As soon as born the living begin to die. Understand this is not exactly a fatalistic point of view, rather one curried with rationality and practicality.

Yes, I do agree though regarding our times seeming to many people shirking personal responsibility. If you're in Canada by chance sometime, you may want to read Listen, Little Man! - Wikilivres! Even if not, you may seek the title out to read. It offers some insight/s into our current age, and ages of all times really. Yes it is pointedly geared toward political issues. That noted it still conveys a sense of warped priorities and ethics likely found in most shirkers. Understand this is not justification, rationalization, or an excuse ... perhaps it is a means to better understand some people.

No, not going to say I am a saint here. Are there times I procrastinate, put of responsibility? Yes. Though, I am not the kind to do so lightly. One such seeming responsibility which keeps aggravating me in life, is automobile driving. I can drive tanks, bulldozers, forklifts, riding mowers, boats, some planes (limited), possibly trains yet I cannot drive standard automobiles. There is a mental block within keeping that switched off for me. Yesterday it kind of come into play. Wife got exhaust work done on her truck, a Ford Explorer. The mechanic upon finishing up said it out to be started up.

I could not start the truck, instead told my wife to get on it. He had the truck on a lift. He asked her if she wanted to back out, or let me. She suggested he back it out. He had no way to know I do not drive automobiles. He had no reason to know that. He did not disparage me for it. Instead, I was kicking myself internally. I am 43 and not able to do something even most 16 year olds take for granted. I cannot take up the responsibility to overcome the mental block. The only justification I have for the block is, not knowing what causes it, not knowing how to face it. Yes, I know ... "learn to drive dummy". Simply enough said, more daunting to do.

Besides, it seems like a fear. But obviously it is not a fear. I just do not drive standard automobiles. Something prohibits this for me mentally. Could I kick that somethings' ...? I might be able to, sure. Do I want to attempt it. Heck no! Now, well, it's a fear. *chuckles* Can only speculate that I fear the responsibility involved with everything coming in while a person drives a standard automobile. I come into a state similar to autism when getting behind the wheel of a standard automobile, I lock up fully.

So, I'm no saint. I let others have the responsibility of driving standard automobiles, as much as I beat myself up over not being able to do so myself. Also tend to avoid using chainsaws too much. Saw someone nearly take their leg off with one. yes, they were acting and using the saw in a stupid manner. The shock of it though for me at a young age has lingered and set me against using chainsaws. Oh, I can use them but would rather someone else do so. Nope, not a saint in regards of responsibility. I try like most do. We can only do our best.

But yes, we need fewer stupid and fewer shirkers.
 
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I do agree but also leave about a two or three percent fudge factor. Poop always does happen and it has proven to do so time and time again. That is what I leave for the fudge factor. Life also includes death. To me that says life is the ultimate cosmic joke. As soon as born the living begin to die. Understand this is not exactly a fatalistic point of view, rather one curried with rationality and practicality.

Yes, I do agree though regarding our times seeming to many people shirking personal responsibility. If you're in Canada by chance sometime, you may want to read Listen, Little Man! - Wikilivres! Even if not, you may seek the title out to read. It offers some insight/s into our current age, and ages of all times really. Yes it is pointedly geared toward political issues. That noted it still conveys a sense of warped priorities and ethics likely found in most shirkers. Understand this is not justification, rationalization, or an excuse ... perhaps it is a means to better understand some people.

No, not going to say I am a saint here. Are there times I procrastinate, put of responsibility? Yes. Though, I am not the kind to do so lightly. One such seeming responsibility which keeps aggravating me in life, is automobile driving. I can drive tanks, bulldozers, forklifts, riding mowers, boats, some planes (limited), possibly trains yet I cannot drive standard automobiles. There is a mental block within keeping that switched off for me. Yesterday it kind of come into play. Wife got exhaust work done on her truck, a Ford Explorer. The mechanic upon finishing up said it out to be started up.

I could not start the truck, instead told my wife to get on it. He had the truck on a lift. He asked her if she wanted to back out, or let me. She suggested he back it out. He had no way to know I do not drive automobiles. He had no reason to know that. He did not disparage me for it. Instead, I was kicking myself internally. I am 43 and not able to do something even most 16 year olds take for granted. I cannot take up the responsibility to overcome the mental block. The only justification I have for the block is, not knowing what causes it, not knowing how to face it. Yes, I know ... "learn to drive dummy". Simply enough said, more daunting to do.

Besides, it seems like a fear. But obviously it is not a fear. I just do not drive standard automobiles. Something prohibits this for me mentally. Could I kick that somethings' ...? I might be able to, sure. Do I want to attempt it. Heck no! Now, well, it's a fear. *chuckles* Can only speculate that I fear the responsibility involved with everything coming in while a person drives a standard automobile. I come into a state similar to autism when getting behind the wheel of a standard automobile, I lock up fully.

So, I'm no saint. I let others have the responsibility of driving standard automobiles, as much as I beat myself up over not being able to do so myself. Also tend to avoid using chainsaws too much. Saw someone nearly take their leg off with one. yes, they were acting and using the saw in a stupid manner. The shock of it though for me at a young age has lingered and set me against using chainsaws. Oh, I can use them but would rather someone else do so. Nope, not a saint in regards of responsibility. I try like most do. We can only do our best.

But yes, we need fewer stupid and fewer shirkers.
I was absolutely terrified of driving. I didn't get my license until two years ago and I'm 22.something about driving seemed to bring out the worst in me
 

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I do agree but also leave about a two or three percent fudge factor. Poop always does happen and it has proven to do so time and time again. That is what I leave for the fudge factor. Life also includes death. To me that says life is the ultimate cosmic joke. As soon as born the living begin to die. Understand this is not exactly a fatalistic point of view, rather one curried with rationality and practicality.

Yes, I do agree though regarding our times seeming to many people shirking personal responsibility. If you're in Canada by chance sometime, you may want to read Listen, Little Man! - Wikilivres! Even if not, you may seek the title out to read. It offers some insight/s into our current age, and ages of all times really. Yes it is pointedly geared toward political issues. That noted it still conveys a sense of warped priorities and ethics likely found in most shirkers. Understand this is not justification, rationalization, or an excuse ... perhaps it is a means to better understand some people.

No, not going to say I am a saint here. Are there times I procrastinate, put of responsibility? Yes. Though, I am not the kind to do so lightly. One such seeming responsibility which keeps aggravating me in life, is automobile driving. I can drive tanks, bulldozers, forklifts, riding mowers, boats, some planes (limited), possibly trains yet I cannot drive standard automobiles. There is a mental block within keeping that switched off for me. Yesterday it kind of come into play. Wife got exhaust work done on her truck, a Ford Explorer. The mechanic upon finishing up said it out to be started up.

I could not start the truck, instead told my wife to get on it. He had the truck on a lift. He asked her if she wanted to back out, or let me. She suggested he back it out. He had no way to know I do not drive automobiles. He had no reason to know that. He did not disparage me for it. Instead, I was kicking myself internally. I am 43 and not able to do something even most 16 year olds take for granted. I cannot take up the responsibility to overcome the mental block. The only justification I have for the block is, not knowing what causes it, not knowing how to face it. Yes, I know ... "learn to drive dummy". Simply enough said, more daunting to do.

Besides, it seems like a fear. But obviously it is not a fear. I just do not drive standard automobiles. Something prohibits this for me mentally. Could I kick that somethings' ...? I might be able to, sure. Do I want to attempt it. Heck no! Now, well, it's a fear. *chuckles* Can only speculate that I fear the responsibility involved with everything coming in while a person drives a standard automobile. I come into a state similar to autism when getting behind the wheel of a standard automobile, I lock up fully.

So, I'm no saint. I let others have the responsibility of driving standard automobiles, as much as I beat myself up over not being able to do so myself. Also tend to avoid using chainsaws too much. Saw someone nearly take their leg off with one. yes, they were acting and using the saw in a stupid manner. The shock of it though for me at a young age has lingered and set me against using chainsaws. Oh, I can use them but would rather someone else do so. Nope, not a saint in regards of responsibility. I try like most do. We can only do our best.

But yes, we need fewer stupid and fewer shirkers.


Accidents do happen, however when you are knowledgeable enough to use a mechanical mod safely, you know what to do in the event of an accident.


Using the gear improperly isn't an accident.
Using the gear carelessly isn't an accident.
It's user error.


You won't ever see an educated experienced vaper on the news.
 
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