Thoughts on the GGTB - first week

[JC Okie]

Do you have the adapter for the 510? On mine, either the adapter will screw all the way down, but then the atty won't screw on all the way, OR if I screw the atty onto the adapter first and screw it all the way down, then the adapter won't go all the way on. That other thread I linked to...you should go read it all. I put a little o-ring in the place I was supposed to to lower the center pin a little, but it wasn't enough. When it's right, I think the draw will be a lot tighter. I don't know about the 901 and how it's supposed to vape, but I've used 510s for months. Because the parts are not screwing completely together, I think they're leaking air and messing up the draw. Imeo says that this last batch of GGTBs have longer center pins for some reason.....can't remember what he was explaining. Anyway, I'm working with my vendor to get it fixed. I don't want an airy draw. As it is, it's not working as well as my eGos do.....

BUT...I sure like the way it looks and feels. I can't wait to get this glitch fixed and to go crazy with this thing!

 

[sahara4evr]

Do you have the adapter for the 510? On mine, either the adapter will screw all the way down, but then the atty won't screw on all the way, OR if I screw the atty onto the adapter first and screw it all the way down, then the adapter won't go all the way on. That other thread I linked to...you should go read it all. I put a little o-ring in the place I was supposed to to lower the center pin a little, but it wasn't enough. When it's right, I think the draw will be a lot tighter. I don't know about the 901 and how it's supposed to vape, but I've used 510s for months. Because the parts are not screwing completely together, I think they're leaking air and messing up the draw. Imeo says that this last batch of GGTBs have longer center pins for some reason.....can't remember what he was explaining. Anyway, I'm working with my vendor to get it fixed. I don't want an airy draw. As it is, it's not working as well as my eGos do.....

BUT...I sure like the way it looks and feels. I can't wait to get this glitch fixed and to go crazy with this thing!

I did have the issue of the 510 not screwing all the way in if I attached it to the adapter after the adapter was already on the GGTB. This was Mistress' problem also. If I attach the 510 to the adapter and then the whole thing to the GG, it seems to fit OK. I just assumed the airy draw was a result of the adapter. I think I'll just use my 808s until the 510 cap is available. I got some of those 808 fluxomizers and they're pretty good. Still, let me know how yours works after you get it fixed! Thanks for the info.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

Nah, I'm a bit skittish about stacking batteries... Makes me uncomfortable. I'm good at 3.7 with an LR.

As long as you are educated, stacking is a beautiful thing. Get some some safe chemistry batts. Remember putting 6 D alkaline batts in a boombox? Just as safe.

Also does this thing take 18650 batts? If not, is it long enough to take 14650 batts? why not try and get the most mAh you can get.

 

[buGG]

yeah the 808 clearomizers are surprisingly nice on the GGTB. i don't use 901s outside of an AVS/ control tank system because of the draw and tendency to leak, so i was also using 901-510 and 901-801 adapters on the GGTB for a while. the adapters don't really cut it in my opinion, and i'm really looking forward to the new universal caps for the GGTB...and AVS of course. should be very soon.

 

[sahara4evr]

yeah the 808 clearomizers are surprisingly nice on the GGTB. i don't use 901s outside of an AVS/ control tank system because of the draw and tendency to leak, so i was also using 901-510 and 901-801 adapters on the GGTB for a while. the adapters don't really cut it in my opinion, and i'm really looking forward to the new universal caps for the GGTB...and AVS of course. should be very soon.

I thought it might be the 901 and the 510 adapter but wasn't sure because I've never used them before now. The clearomizers work well but I just don't get the taste that I got when dripping. Still, I'm less likely to wreck because I'm not dripping and driving anymore.

 

[sahara4evr]

Mistress, when you use the 17670s you don't have the adapter issue? I was advised to get those, but I stuck with the 14500s for some inexplicable reason (cheaper). Maybe I should get the 17670s.

Edit: I believe BuGG was the one who told me to get 17670s in the first place. I should have listened.

 

[buGG]

As long as you are educated, stacking is a beautiful thing. Get some some safe chemistry batts. Remember putting 6 D alkaline batts in a boombox? Just as safe.

Also does this thing take 18650 batts? If not, is it long enough to take 14650 batts? why not try and get the most mAh you can get.

agreed on the stacking with safer chemistry, but some can't be sold on stacking period, and there are some that actually prefer to stack batteries in rather precarious setups. user choice i guess, and erring on the side of safety as the case with MN is never a bad idea. but since the GGTB, unlike the GGTS is a fixed size mod, whether you use the telescopic battery or not, it does seem unproductive to not put the biggest and best battery that it will take...an AW17670, or two quality 16340 safe chemistry cells. i get that everyone doesn't have the 17670, and wishes to use the 14500s or whatever they already have in their arsenal, but the 17670 is well worth the investment if you plan on keeping the GGTB as that battery will easily give twice the runtime over most of the smaller cells.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

agreed on the stacking with safer chemistry, but some can't be sold on stacking period, and there are some that actually prefer to stack batteries in rather precarious setups. user choice i guess, and erring on the side of safety as the case with MN is never a bad idea. but since the GGTB, unlike the GGTS is a fixed size mod, whether you use the telescopic battery or not, it does seem unproductive to not put the biggest and best battery that it will take...an AW17670, or two quality 16340 safe chemistry cells. i get that everyone doesn't have the 17670, and wishes to use the 14500s or whatever they already have in their arsenal, but the 17670 is well worth the investment if you plan on keeping the GGTB as that battery will easily give twice the runtime over most of the smaller cells.

I just remember a time when Mistress couldn't be sold on lr attys, but look at her now. So I thought I would throw that out there.
Education is key to stacking batts.

Also if this can take a 17670 and a 14500 then the 14650 would be another battery alternative.

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

Yes, it will take batteries up to and including the 17650's

 

[Krisb]

What are these clearomizers? I keep myself up to date on the big mods coming out...guess I don't pay too close attention to the accessories. Are they better than the traditional cartomizers? Same, just clear? I drip exclusively (until, of course, the GGTB AVS comes out). But, I admit, makes driving very difficult-hate waiting to hit a red light!

 

[Firefly13]

3.7v seems terrible with 808 cartos on my GGTB, but at 6v they are AMAZINGGGG. The airflow definitely has something to do with it because they are much better at 3.7 on my GGTS.

 

[JohnUK]

I find @3.7v LR 1.5ohm or 2 ohm cartomizer/atty are best I prefer 2ohm as it doesn't seem to strip the flavor like 1.5 ohm does YMMV

 

[imeothanasis]

I got a brand new GGTB about 2 weeks ago and I have/am having the same trouble....it's that Imeo made the center pin longer on this batch. Anyway, Rob at Vapor Kings (where I got it)is going to fix it. It affects the draw...and not in a good way. It's way too airy. I already added two o-rings and it didn't make much difference. I think Rob's going to grind my center pin down. I'm waiting to hear from him about mailing it back. There's a thread about this "batch" (we got them within a week of each other) having longer pins. Someone said it shorted out his atty and Imeo addressed it. There's a picture of where to put the 0-ring to fix it....

EDIT: Here's the link: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/147733-ggtb-nickel-shiny-top-cap-shorting-901s.html
I just wanted to let you know about that. I don't like the airy draws....my eGo actually vapes better right now....but Rob's working with me...it's in progress.

Pin is exactly the same to all GGTBs. Its exactly at the same point as the connector. You said that you used 2 o-rings and nothing happened? Thats not possible JC. If you use 3/1,5 or 4/1,5 o-ring its more than ok. Maybe you put a bigger o-ring like 6/1,5 or 7/1,5?

 

[JohnUK]

I can't see the need for extra o-ring on the GGTB,if you follow these simple things:

Chose battery and if using TB try three ways and pick one that fits best,you can use just the threaded part of TB,you can use just the plastic part of TB or you can use complete it just depends on what battery you use.Of course you don't need TB for 17670 or RCR123 also when attaching 510 atty screw atty into 510 adapter first then screw that onto the GGTB,it's as simple as that.

 

[sahara4evr]

What are these clearomizers? I keep myself up to date on the big mods coming out...guess I don't pay too close attention to the accessories. Are they better than the traditional cartomizers? Same, just clear? I drip exclusively (until, of course, the GGTB AVS comes out). But, I admit, makes driving very difficult-hate waiting to hit a red light!

I'm under the impression that clearomizers and fluxomizers are the same thing. I bought some fluxomizers from a new supplier. I really can't tell you if they are better than traditional cartomizers because I've never used anything else but these. I mainly drip. I had the same problem with driving plus I live out in the country - no lights to drip at - so I bought some fluxomizers. I like them pretty good. They're a pain in the tush to fill sometimes because I don't have a syringe but I just pulled them apart and can now fill easily. The taste is not as good but they seem to last for a long time and mine don't leak.

Edit - mine are clear with a tint of color - purple and green. I like this because I can see to fill! Also, there's a wick rather than filling which seems to do fine.

 

[Lilac]

John, there's a definite difference between the latest batch of GGTB's and the older ones....

I have a matte nickel plated one from the 2nd release (i think yours is from the same batch) which has completely lost the plating on parts, i showed Imeo pics of it and he arranged a replacement from Cam which arrived a couple of days ago, a beautiful shiny brass one....

This new one has a completely different draw to my old one, very airy and actually quite noisy, using the same atty & 17670 battery, i'm not technical enough to diagnose the difference, but when you see the 2 caps together, they're different, if this was my first GGTB and i didn't have an older one to compare it with, i'd be very disappointed with it...

i can improve it by slipping a thin band cut from a cartomiser condom over the threads, as suggested to someone by Lisa ages ago, but my thinking is, why should i do that when i have a perfectly functioning GGTB with a lovely draw thats only fault is that it looks tatty?

the jury's still out at the mo, but i'm thinking i'm gonna send the new one back and try to get the rest of the plating off the old one so it at least looks a bit better.

 

[JohnUK]

Lilac ok I can't comment really on this current batch I just assumed all parts were the same.

FWIW I took all the plating off mine too just use some very fine grit wet "n" dry how shinny you want the brass is up to you but I left mine matt brass,looks ok too.



[edit] would you like me to post a pic?

 

[imeothanasis]

When I say that all GGTB are the same, I mean the last batch, not the previous very small batch where the man that shines GG line destroyed them. The very first one had a smaller pi9n but I deside to make it 0,5mm bigger to fit all 901 atomizers because not all atomizers are the same.

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

, but i'm thinking i'm gonna send the new one back and try to get the rest of the plating off the old one so it at least looks a bit better.

Maybe keep the new one (GGTB) with the old one's top and bottom caps on it instead of the new caps?
Then you have new finish with the good draw of the old one

 

[Automaton]

All - As long as the conductor plate isn't screwed up tighter, I don't have the gap or the more airy draw. But even if I do, what I'm having doesn't seem as severe as what you guys are having. It actually goes well with some juices, ha ha.

Glad to hear you guys are getting some help with it.

Bert - Yeah, I know. I'm using protected/safe chemistry batteries as is, of course, but since I don't have the desire for more power I don't see a need at this point.

It was wanting to get away from cartomizers (got tired of their disposable nature) that set me on the hunt to find an LR I actually liked. Regular atties just don't hit as hard as cartos do to me. I still don't like the LR 901's... the LR 510's are good for some things, but my favorite has wound up being the LR 306. It was just a matter of me trying a few different models.

Perhaps as I learn more about mods I may get more comfortable with stacking. I know LiMN's and LifePO4's are pretty unlikely to experience faults. In fact I don't think there's ever been a reported case of an LiMN failing in a mod (which is why I got 14500's - they come in LiMN - and I got the Protected Li-Ion 17670's because they're the largest battery that fits, and larger batteries are supposed to be more stable).

I dunno. Seems like an unncessary risk when I'm happy with my experience.

The GGTB won't fit 18650's though. When my GGTB got here and I realized I'd forgotten to get batteries, I wanted to try to use David's 18650's for his P18. But then I read they're too wide. In my desperation I even tried to use a 10440, ha ha ha. It worked, but it's kind of unstable since it's so tiny.

With a sigh, I decided it wasn't worth it and waiting for my batteries to come in.