Throat hit additive

[Plasmatic]

Can anyone here tell me if this stuff works and does it add a funky taste to juices you've tried it on? Throat Hit Booster

Started reducing my nic strength from 12mg to 6mg, and the throat hit is vanishing for me. It's making it difficult for me to "downgrade" completely. For me this is defeating the reason why I started vaping in the first place, to reduce nicotine intake, and quit smoking entirely. I smoked a pack to at least a pack and a half a day and since vaping for a little over a year I am down to 3, and sometimes 4 cigs a day. Some days I'll only have 2. Taking the baby steps along with vaping is the only thing that have worked for me. I'd hate to have myself go in reverse or just be stuck where I'm at now.

 

[mn shutterbug]

I'm wondering if increasing the voltage of the PV could make up for a decrease in nicotine. I posted this question in the general forum.

 

[tedigram]

I would be shocked if that's anything more than a bottle of PG, maaaaaybe with an untastable hit of menthol or something in it, but yeah. Throat hit comes from PG and nicotine, so that's either just an expensive (and super tiny) bottle of PG, or it's some other mystery ingredient that you probably shouldn't be vaping at all.

At a bare minimum email them and ask them exactly what's in it. If they refuse to give you a complete ingredient list, that's your red flag right there. And even so, I would still just try higher PG ratios in your own liquid before resorting to that. If you buy all pre-made liquid you can pick up a big bottle of PG and just add a couple mls yourself.

 

[sofarsogood]

My impression is the throat hits go away when the coil is gunked up. Some times reducing temp improves throat hit more than the reverse. I do DIY and use the abolute minimum amount of flavor which seems to keep the coil cleaner which seems to give more consistant throat hits. Usually a new build has improved throat hits. Those are my impressions. Rebuilding and DIY can give you the tools to improve your vape and also save you some money.

 

[Plasmatic]

I would be shocked if that's anything more than a bottle of PG, maaaaaybe with an untastable hit of menthol or something in it, but yeah. Throat hit comes from PG and nicotine, so that's either just an expensive (and super tiny) bottle of PG, or it's some other mystery ingredient that you probably shouldn't be vaping at all.

At a bare minimum email them and ask them exactly what's in it. If they refuse to give you a complete ingredient list, that's your red flag right there. And even so, I would still just try higher PG ratios in your own liquid before resorting to that. If you buy all pre-made liquid you can pick up a big bottle of PG and just add a couple mls yourself.

I don't entirely buy into the whole more pg=more throat hit theory. I've tried juice before that was very high in VG and low in PG that had good throat hit. I know the PG plays some role in it just like the nicotine level and what kind of flavor does.

I first noticed this when I got a bottle of Neckbeard's Nectar in 6mg nicotine. It's got a way weaker throat hit then the 12mg stuff. Other then that it's the same to me.

Never crossed my mind to email them about it. I'd hate to buy it and have it be anything remotely close to menthol. Even as a child I hated anything with a slight minty taste to it.

I can get more of a throat hit by upping the wattage. Some it works for, and others it just destroys the flavor for me.



I buy all my juices as a 50/50 blend.

 

[man00ver]

Is that $3.99 for 3mL? It looks that way from the picture.

You're probably better off getting some "Flash" by FlavourArt. It's a well-known additive among DIYers (though I haven't tried it myself). At least they describe it more fully, and make a little effort to tell you what's in it:

<59% Propylene Glycol EP
<40% (Veg) Glycerol EP
<1% Plant extract EFSA

You can order 100mL direct from the manufacturer for $11.99 + international shipping. If you don't want that much, you can get it faster from Bull City Vapor (and still cheaper by volume than that Vaperite knock-off).

 

[Plasmatic]

Is that $3.99 for 3mL? It looks that way from the picture.

You're probably better off getting some "Flash" by FlavourArt. It's a well-known additive among DIYers (though I haven't tried it myself). At least they describe it more fully, and make a little effort to tell you what's in it:

<59% Propylene Glycol EP
<40% (Veg) Glycerol EP
<1% Plant extract EFSA

You can order 100mL direct from the manufacturer for $11.99 + international shipping. If you don't want that much, you can get it faster from Bull City Vapor (and still cheaper by volume than that Vaperite knock-off).

If I had to guess I'd say it's a 3ml bottle too. I agree the page sucks for information. That was the only thing I could find being sold. Seems like it's not something many places sell or I'm searching wrong.

Thanks for the link. I'll have to go check that company out. I'd probably go with a smaller bottle first just to see how well it works. No sense having a big one laying around if doesn't do the trick.

 

[mcol]

I was going to say 'flash' as well. It adds throat hit.

 

[Hdivr]

I used to add a drop or two of vodka into a clearo when I wanted a throat hit on high VG liquids. It gives that "hit" in the back of your throat.

 

[mcol]

I used to add a drop or two of vodka into a clearo when I wanted a throat hit on high VG liquids. It gives that "hit" in the back of your throat.

I did that too.

 

[Ablonz]

@Plasmatic What set up are you using?

 

[Plasmatic]

@Plasmatic What set up are you using?

Sorry for taking so long to get back to this. Hardly had a chance to get online lately.

For a setup I'm using a Disrupter mod, 1.6 ohm coil, and a Nautilus mini tank. My setup has nothing to do with the throat hit. Most juices I vape are fine at 12mg of nicotine, it's the lesser ones I notice less of the throat hit in. I only vape 50/50 blends due to that's how they are offered.

I went and ordered some stuff to test out and see how it works.

 

[Ablonz]

Sorry for taking so long to get back to this. Hardly had a chance to get online lately.

For a setup I'm using a Disrupter mod, 1.6 ohm coil, and a Nautilus mini tank. My setup has nothing to do with the throat hit. Most juices I vape are fine at 12mg of nicotine, it's the lesser ones I notice less of the throat hit in. I only vape 50/50 blends due to that's how they are offered.

I went and ordered some stuff to test out and see how it works.

Actually it can. When you use a higher ohm coil and lower Nicotine, you get less throat hit. If you lower the ohm of the coil, it will atomize better and give more of a Throat hit with the same Nicotine. Just like you said 12 mg gives a good throat hit while 6 mg does not. That is why you here people lowering there Nic when they Sub ohm. More efficient. Going higher PG will also give you a better throat hit. It is better to perfect the use of your mod than it is to buy a new one just to see if it works better. You said that you get a better throat hit with 12 mg? Stick with it if that is what your looking for. I have noticed with time, my consumption has been decreasing with use. If you want, I live in your area and could meet up with you and discuss it more in person. We could meet at a public place and chit chat about it. Not many people on here from our area. I am in De Pere. Let me know. I know it is really nice when you are shown how you could improve something so you do not go backwards. I help my dad all the time and he is finally becoming a novice, just past beginner so to speak. It is all about giving you a better experience vaping. Hope this helps.

 

[mountaingal]

Ablonz's response is so true. When I started out at 24mg I was using E-go C's. As the gear got better (protanks) and Isticks, I was able to lower the nic to 18mg. Now, with the 1.2Ω coil in a subtank and and any battery over 10W, I am down to 12mg. I have to use about 18 watts to keep the throat hit where I like it. When I go down to 8mgs I will use the .5Ω coil and up the wattage. I really hope I can lower the nic. It has been a struggle for me to go lower, but with the better gear, I know I can do it. Keep your coil clean. Adding some whiskey or rum, at around 1% may help. I make my own juice and always add My Freedoms Smokes (MFS) Flavor Arts MTS Vape Wizards additive. FA - MTS Vape Wizard (Flavoring)
It makes the smoke thicker and more enjoyable. Keep up with your search and do not give up. You can be free of cigs, and lower your nic. Keep asking, we vapers are here to help.
Ablonz's offer of help was nice to see.

 

[sparkky1]

Sorry for taking so long to get back to this. Hardly had a chance to get online lately.

For a setup I'm using a Disrupter mod, 1.6 ohm coil, and a Nautilus mini tank. My setup has nothing to do with the throat hit. Most juices I vape are fine at 12mg of nicotine, it's the lesser ones I notice less of the throat hit in. I only vape 50/50 blends due to that's how they are offered.

I went and ordered some stuff to test out and see how it works.

Your set up has everything to do with it ....................
Suggestion - Sense Herakles PLUS Sub-Ohm TC Tank .4 kanthal coils

 

[Plasmatic]

Ok everyone I'm just talking about how I LIKE my throat hit to be. I like a fairly strong hit, which is why I was asking about an additive to produce this on some juices I vape where it is less as the nicotine levels are decreased. Ya'll need not read more into what I wrote. Everything does play a role in this, I know that.

I vape with just a factory setup, no rebuildable parts to this at all. ( No, I'm not going to rebuild the coils.) I vape with both the 1.6 and 1.8 ohm coils. I just happen to have a 1.6 ohm coil in my setup right now. I've got a notebook with setups in it for each juice I vape. I even keep track of how long a coil lasts at these settings in my book.

Right now I'm vaping 10mg High Roller Sweets Hold'em with the 1.6 ohm coil, smallest air hole open, and at 11.5 watts. It tastes great to me, but lacks some in the throat hit for me. If I up the wattage it gets more of a hit, but I loose the taste I like. This is a juice that I would probably put an additive in at a lower nic level. Then again maybe I wouldn't need to.

I've got my favorite juices that I vape, and I really don't want to give them up for lack of a throat hit if I can help it. In my case this is just a personal preference issue, not a lack of knowing how to use my equipment.

 

[CloudZ]

Once you get down to 0 mg nic there is no more throat hit. There is no way to create more actual throat hit, nicotine is the only thing that does the job. Higher pg and additives increase harshness, but that little thump you feel at the back of your throat upon inhale only comes from nicotine.

I suggest slowly reducing the nic mg by mg and fighting through. If you truly want to quit everything it is still way easier than any other method.

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[Plasmatic]

Once you get down to 0 mg nic there is no more throat hit. There is no way to create more actual throat hit, nicotine is the only thing that does the job. Higher pg and additives increase harshness, but that little thump you feel at the back of your throat upon inhale only comes from nicotine.

I suggest slowly reducing the nic mg by mg and fighting through. If you truly want to quit everything it is still way easier than any other method.

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I started with 24mg and worked my way down to 12mg. I've managed to do 6mg on some now. It's been a long slow process, but it works.

My goal at some point is to give up nicotine all together, then vaping. I have no intentions at all to turn this into a hobby or continue to vape. I started vaping to quit smoking and it's worked for the most part. Out of habit I do light up 2 or 3 times a day. Sometimes it's one or two drags, with most being 1/2 a Marb 72. I don't even think I've lit one up where I've even smoked 1/2 of it in a few weeks now. Living with smokers doesn't make it easy.

Hopefully if I get it down to 3mg or sooner I won't crave that throat hit.

 

[Plumes.91]

Adding throat hit has been discussed over ECF for many years now and I have joined-in on the discussion many times. I have found that yes, the well-known PG/Nicotine stories are indeed true.

First off, nothing adds throat-hit like good old Nicotine. & your body becomes adjusted to whatever Nicotine you've been using. Whether you are at 6mg now, or 24mg, vaping a HIGHER nic-lvl WILL increase TH!! Likewise, reducing your nicotine level, forces the throat to become accustomed to that nic lvl! I've experienced this 1st-hand! & what I mean by this, is that, well... If you are used to 12mg and you jump down to 6mg, for the 1st week or so, yes, the 6mg liquid will seem a lot less harsh on that throat of yours, but the throat WILL adjust! In other words, it WILL eventually FEEL the throat hit from that 6mg juice, and it SHOULD be just as satisfying as the throat hit you WERE feeling from that 12mg juice, it'll just take a bit for your throat to adjust...

Next is Propylene Glycol... Yes, PG does provide a better TH than VG, there is no doubt about it. & a higher PG level than you are used-to, is going to increase your throat hit. If you are used to 50/50 and you move up to 60/40, the TH is going to increase measurably. This is because while VG produces a very spongy, soft-body, full-throat throat hit, it just doesn't sting the throat like propylene glycol does. PG will actually HIT the throat, hard. VG will simply envelop the throat in a spongy/soft wet-fog like feeling. PG DOES increase the TH/Throat-sting.

Finally, it is true that SOME have managed to substantially increase TH with the addition of ALCOHOL to their juice mixtures. Just 3-4 drops to a 5ml bottle of e-liquid should noticeably increase the TH of a juice! We have talked about this many times in the past, here on ECF, and I can recommend any1 looking to add TH to their low nicotine e-liquid mixes, to give adding pure alcohol a go. You may want to try grain/everclear/etc. (very STRONG, very pure, triple distilled/filtered, 100+ proof alcohols) Avoid CHEAPER booz, like Pukeoff or McCormick lol. Those will not only add throat hit, but they will also add the alcohol taste to your e-liquid, yuck!

One LAST throat-hit increase is capcasin, or hot pepper extract. Now, this one is debatable. SOME enjoy what this one does to their liquids, and some dislike it. It does add TH, but not necessarily in the traditional sense. It can add a HEAT to your e-liquids, that does punch the throat, especially with repeated hits. But does it increase the traditional throat hit enough to have it on this list? I couldn't say. I haven't personally tried it. I have heard MIXED reviews, however, i have heard some really positive/glowing reviews from TH chasers. I've also heard people say that this one just doesn't add REAL throat hit, rather, it adds heat, or it adds a cumulative-effect throat hit, IE: the throat hit gets better with each puff from the vaporizer. IDK, it may be worth a try if you are desperate to get that throat hit from a low or 0mg juice, like i WOULD-BE if I were using that low of a nic level... I am not, so, I am quite happy with my 6 to 12mg juice (now that I've become adjusted to these levels)

These throat hit additives you've posted above, have very few reviews and even less talk of them on the different forums... I have no clue what they are, but they may be worth a try... The one that has a plant extract might be worth a look, for sure! If you DO try these additives, please come back to this thread, AND (if possible) or.. create a new thread, on the product. We certainly could use some data/information/posts/conversation on these new TH additives hitting the market. Because I truly believe that SOME OF US, INCLUDING MYSELF, are ADDICTED TO the THROAT HIT, not JUST the nicotine!! Therefore, if these TH additives work, they could help thousands of us to move down to ZERO MG e-liquids, with EASE!! That would be fantastic!! So PLEASE, DO create some conversation on these products!!

 

[Plumes.91]

I want to add that the only way a higher wattage would increase throat hit, is through the vaporization of MORE e-liquid per hit, which would mean that you aren't really cutting down, now are you? lol. idk. you can debate "cheating" all you want, i will stay out of that conversation. but I do support using higher wattage to achieve a better throat hit with lower mg nicotine, sure! Why not? However, I find that I am vaping 6mg juice at the same wattages i was vaping my 12 and 18mg juices at...... I have been using old disposable 510 attys, however... lol. In a rebuildable atomizer, you may want to lower that wattage/voltage because those rebuildables are made to increase the vapor production at ANY wattage, through design, not just through heat maximization....