Throat hit diminishes after about 8 puffs

[Nocturne31]

Hey all

I noticed that after 8 drags, the throat hit becomes very weak... I find that I have to space out my sessions for me to feel it... I use an MVP 3, Black Cherry 80/20 VG PG. 12mg nicotine. I ordered a bottle with 18mg to see what it's like and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I can't up my PG content as it gives me a dry mouth... Any suggestions? I hate waiting in between sessions!

Note that the first 8 drags are satisfying.

Thanks in advance

 

[Topwater Elvis]

What delivery device are you using? 80% vg may be too viscous for it to wick fast enough.

 

[Nocturne31]

What delivery device are you using? 80% vg may be too viscous for it to wick fast enough.

I'm using an Evod 2 1.5 ohm coil... That's the thing, it's perfect for the first 8 drags...

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The tiny pieces of wicking material in the evod2 head aren't going to wick 80% vg well / fast enough to keep up / supply juice.

 

[crxess]

Then everything gets heated up and the vape changes and it is no longer what you expect.

I seriously doubt changing Nic % is going to correct anything. At best it should make the first 8 draws seem to strong.

Sounds like you are looking for performance not supported by your current choice of hardware.

 

[Nocturne31]

Then everything gets heated up and the vape changes and it is no longer what you expect.

I seriously doubt changing Nic % is going to correct anything. At best it should make the first 8 draws seem to strong.

Sounds like you are looking for performance not supported by your current choice of hardware.

I agree

I have a ton of Voltage and Wattage levels that I am yet to take advantage of because it burns so quickly. What do you suggest?

 

[Nocturne31]

The tiny pieces of wicking material in the evod2 head aren't going to wick 80% vg well / fast enough to keep up / supply juice.

I'm not sure but I think it was you who suggested a few tanks to me. I'm finding it difficult to choose, what am I looking for here? I've always stuck with iclears and evods really, so I've never ventured into the other world.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The mvp3 has a .4Ω minimum so you’ll have to chose something with replaceable heads .4Ω or more.
You’ll also want to reduce you nic mg by about half if you chose to go to a sub ohm clearo.

The nautlius & silo tank will be a big step above what you’re currently using, but are limited to 12-18w depending on pg/vg ratio & flavorings. The isub-g & atlantis are another big step up from the naut& silo, but, use sub ohm heads.

Eleaf GS Air
Eleaf Melo
Aspire Nautilus
Beyond Vape Silo Tank
Kabuki
Innokin iSub-G
Aspire Atlantis

Really there are too many delivery devices that will allow you to utilize more of your power devices capabilities and get a better/ consistent vape to list them all.

 

[Guzzard]

Happens with me too. I'm on a Kayfun at 1.13 ohms with 35/65 pg/vg 14mg. What helps me with the throat hit is menthol.
But still I lose the throat hit and have to wait for it to show up. I guess it's just the way vaping is. It's a shame though, throat hit is the most important aspect that I love about vaping.
I'm surprised I haven't came across more threads with this problem. I'm sure it happens to everybody.

 

[smacuser]

18mg might do you well.

I'm still at 18.

 

[Nocturne31]

The mvp3 has a .4Ω minimum so you’ll have to chose something with replaceable heads .4Ω or more.
You’ll also want to reduce you nic mg by about half if you chose to go to a sub ohm clearo.

The nautlius & silo tank will be a big step above what you’re currently using, but are limited to 12-18w depending on pg/vg ratio & flavorings. The isub-g & atlantis are another big step up from the naut& silo, but, use sub ohm heads.

Eleaf GS Air
Eleaf Melo
Aspire Nautilus
Beyond Vape Silo Tank
Kabuki
Innokin iSub-G
Aspire Atlantis

Really there are too many delivery devices that will allow you to utilize more of your power devices capabilities and get a better/ consistent vape to list them all.

And is the sub option avoidable? Or am I stuck with it? Because I notice that the throat hit does fade as the drip tip gets hotter... So are you sure it's the heat? Thank you for the list!

 

[Nocturne31]

Happens with me too. I'm on a Kayfun at 1.13 ohms with 35/65 pg/vg 14mg. What helps me with the throat hit is menthol.
But still I lose the throat hit and have to wait for it to show up. I guess it's just the way vaping is. It's a shame though, throat hit is the most important aspect that I love about vaping.
I'm surprised I haven't came across more threads with this problem. I'm sure it happens to everybody.

It's so annoying! When I used to smoke a hookah, the throat hit is consistent for like half an hour! I feel like my throat gets too used to the throat hit after 8 puffs, maybe that's the problem? Vaping without a throat hit is something I will never understand. I don't see the point. Why would I wanna stare at clouds?

 

[Nocturne31]

18mg might do you well.

I'm still at 18.

I hope it's worth it when it comes in the mail

 

[VHRB2014]

Throat Hit, or Burn?

The tingling in your nasal passages, or the feeling you get at the back of your throat when you inhale?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I gave several options and there are literally dozens more that do not use sub ohm resistance heads.
Your throat hit is diminishing because the wicking material can't wick fast enough to keep the wicking material closest to the coil fully saturated.
Throat hit = nic mg, PG%, air flow, heat, wicking ability.
High VG% mutes throat hit & flavor.

 

[smacuser]

I hope it's worth it when it comes in the mail

Actually, I ordered 17 on my last purchase.

 

[crxess]

I agree

I have a ton of Voltage and Wattage levels that I am yet to take advantage of because it burns so quickly. What do you suggest?

Vape should always be started lower in wattage and gradually moved up over several draws. If it starts to Hit Dry or sort of burnt power needs to be reduced until a consistent vape is reached.

If you are not ready to test out a more open Tank design your choices are a bit limited on increased power Atomizers.

Protank Mini is actually a good choice for those willing to take the time to make adjustments and fine their preferred Vape level.
*Air Flow can go from Very open to almost none.
*Drip tip can be replaced with a more restrictive tip if preferred.
*Coils are available in several resistances with various power recommendations.
*Handles most liquid mixes without issues.
*** Adjust ability allows for experimentation and growth.

 

[gadgetkeith]

I gave several options and there are literally dozens more that do not use sub ohm resistance heads.
Your throat hit is diminishing because the wicking material can't wick fast enough to keep the wicking material closest to the coil fully saturated.
Throat hit = nic mg, PG%, air flow, heat, wicking ability.
High VG% mutes throat hit & flavor.

+1 on more PG for a better throat hit
i have also found that higher VG mutes the throat hit to some extent

there are a lot of threads in the juice section on here about those who use 0 nic still get some good throat hit with 50/50 mixes and higher on the PG side of things

 

[Nocturne31]

I gave several options and there are literally dozens more that do not use sub ohm resistance heads.
Your throat hit is diminishing because the wicking material can't wick fast enough to keep the wicking material closest to the coil fully saturated.
Throat hit = nic mg, PG%, air flow, heat, wicking ability.
High VG% mutes throat hit & flavor.

Thank you... What do you think of the protank 3?

 

[Nocturne31]

Vape should always be started lower in wattage and gradually moved up over several draws. If it starts to Hit Dry or sort of burnt power needs to be reduced until a consistent vape is reached.

If you are not ready to test out a more open Tank design your choices are a bit limited on increased power Atomizers.

Protank Mini is actually a good choice for those willing to take the time to make adjustments and fine their preferred Vape level.
*Air Flow can go from Very open to almost none.
*Drip tip can be replaced with a more restrictive tip if preferred.
*Coils are available in several resistances with various power recommendations.
*Handles most liquid mixes without issues.
*** Adjust ability allows for experimentation and growth.

I was thinking of the protank as well. I think airflow is a big issue here