Throat hit with 24mg

[tuss08]

As I'm still having a couple of analogues in the morning, I searched the forum and discovered nic is one aspect that can increase throat hit and calm cravings.
As I can't handle high PG i still get 60/40 or up vg juices.
Anyway went from 18mg to 24mg and now find I'm still craving cigs, in fact more than before and all my juices seem to taste the same. As I vape most of the day, by midday my throat feels like I'm getting a cold and the juice taste isn't good.

I use ego CE4 and evods, drink heaps of water and maintain my clearos so things should taste ok.

If I go back to 18mg but try a variable device do you think it may help….will spend the money if I have to, just don't want to waste it on a mod I end up not using.

Any advice??
Thanks heaps in advance

 

[JasonBourne]

A variable device of any kind I think you will see a huge difference and you really dont have to spend alot of money at first. I think you can get a VV spinner 1300mah battery for $30.00 Hope I read your post right and this helps a little.

 

[Jay-dub]

Do you change your coils and wicks very often?

I suspect that as you go longer without cigs the irritation will subside. But, you may want to go to 100% of one or the other (PG/VG) to see if one of those is causing an allergic response. I've seen people report more issues with PG so try 100% VG first.

 

[Huckleberried]

I wish I could help with the answer about the mg and such. What I can say is that the site I order juice from has an option to add different levels of throat hit. If you're interested, it's Pure Vapes. Really good stuff. You can also get whatever ratio pg/vg you like.

 

[tuss08]

I change my wicks after 3-4 tanks but i must say even with a new wick the problems still there. I also wash in vodka, dry burn and steep so I THINK I'm doing it right.
Thanks for the pure vape reference, just checked it out but they don't ship to OZ, which is often the problem.

Is the vv spinner as good as any other, I don't know so I was looking at the smoke tech SID.
All i want is to actually experience what others seem to experience, yummy flavours etc!

 

[CreepyLady]

To try it out and keep costs down definitely go with a spinner a twist or a winder. Those will give you enough VV to know if you want to make a larger investment.

Honestly though- not sure what you can find it for in Oz, but in the states an MVP2 is 40 dollars with an Iclear 30. That gives VV, VW and a different delivery clearo. I would also try different liquids/vendors. Some just are not close to others - even if they taste "ok".

Good luck and I hope you find the sweet spot!

 

[DrApex]

I vape 32mg menthol liquid from Goodejuice. It's got all the throat hit you could ever want. I've seen heavy cig smokers cough from a small puff.

Variable voltage is nice, it'll help. EGo twists are a nice entry VV option. Really, it comes down to matching the atomizer resistance to the voltage output of your battery.

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[pizza2me]

Drink a lot of water for your throat!

 

[Sucker_dad]

I agree about getting a spinner or an ego-twist and try a dripper or RDA you'll find all the throat hit you want/need.

 

[WizOz]

First let me say, I was VERY motivated to quit smoking. However, for the first 6-7 days of vaping, I still had cravings for analogues. Was like a zinc or penny taste in my mouth that would get me craving. I know it wasn't due to nicotine cravings, because I was vaping a 24mg DIY juice. I am thinking that the cravings were from the other 400+ chemicals that are put into ciggies to make them MORE addictive.(I think lol, not positive on that). Anyways, after going cold turkey for 6-7 days, the craving went away almost completely for the most part. Then there was a few months of wanting a real ciggie out of the blue and the occasional zinc-penny taste that would get me wanting an analog. I was just very adamant that I was NOT going to smoke an analog and would reach for my vaper instead. Am very happy that I went this route as a friend continued to smoke a couple analogs a day and it took her alot longer to quit. When she finally just said no to the analogs, it was still about 6-7 days for her to feel she was done completely with the analogs. Not sure about others experiences, but I attribute this to the other chemicals in ciggies and not the missing nicotine thing. G'luck!

 

[Zealous]

As I'm still having a couple of analogues in the morning, I searched the forum and discovered nic is one aspect that can increase throat hit and calm cravings.
As I can't handle high PG i still get 60/40 or up vg juices.
Anyway went from 18mg to 24mg and now find I'm still craving cigs, in fact more than before and all my juices seem to taste the same. As I vape most of the day, by midday my throat feels like I'm getting a cold and the juice taste isn't good.

I use ego CE4 and evods, drink heaps of water and maintain my clearos so things should taste ok.

If I go back to 18mg but try a variable device do you think it may help….will spend the money if I have to, just don't want to waste it on a mod I end up not using.

Any advice??
Thanks heaps in advance

A couple questions: First, how long have you been vaping? Second, when you say you can't handle high pg how have you tested to make sure the pg is the problem?

On the second, the reason I ask is because you said that you said that by noon your throat feels like you're getting a cold. This happens to me but when it does it's because of mucus build up from using too high of VG. So I'm wondering if you have tested juice with high pg & found it to be irritating or if you were told by someone else that PG might be causing you problems.

Not trying to tell you your business or anything. I'm just curious how you've come to your conclusions about the PG since your symptoms seem comparable with myself when I use too high of VG.

In addition, if you are not getting a good TH this is probably why you are craving cigarettes since a cigarette is giving you a better TH than the juice you're using. 24mg nic would add to your TH but if you're being negatively affected by your juice mix the higher nic might not help with that since the problem is coming from somewhere else.

 

[degnr8]

The other thing you can do to add TH to a high VG juice is add a little vodka. A twist or winder would be a good way to find out if you like VV or not, but you can also get the effect of more power by getting a lower resistance atty. I think zealous was onto something with the VG causing the thickness in the throat and cold feeling. I have the same thing sometimes since going to all VG.

 

[tuss08]

Well i may be confused with my vaping info based on what you have all said.
Ive only been vaping a few months and have by now bought at least 40 bottles of different juices at different vg/pg levels.
Initially I was using an 80/20 pg mix juice with a 1.8 watt clearomiser…evods.
It was suggested that i try higher VG to stop getting an irritated throat and I have found the higher VG did seem to be a bit softer on my throat, but come to think of it, not always!
With this latest lot of juice coming in at 24mg, its worse. And i drink heaps of water!
So…. Maybe I go back to 18mg nic and try 50/50 pg as well as getting a variable device? I'm treating this like a detective would…process of elimination???? Is that how you all found your sweet spot? And is it normal to take months to find it?!!

 

[tuss08]

Well i may be confused with my vaping info based on what you have all said.
Ive only been vaping a few months and have by now bought at least 40 bottles of different juices at different vg/pg levels.
Initially I was using an 80/20 pg mix juice with a 1.8 watt clearomiser…evods.
It was suggested that i try higher VG to stop getting an irritated throat and I have found the higher VG did seem to be a bit softer on my throat, but come to think of it, not always!
With this latest lot of juice coming in at 24mg, its worse. And i drink heaps of water!
So…. Maybe I go back to 18mg nic and try 50/50 pg as well as getting a variable device? I'm treating this like a detective would…process of elimination???? Is that how you all found your sweet spot? And is it normal to take months to find it?!!

 

[degnr8]

To see if you're having issues with one or the other of the ingredients, you could try some 100% PG and some 100% VG. That should tell you pretty quickly if either one is causing your problems. As far as how long it takes to find the sweet spot YMMV. It's different for everybody. Some people find something they love right off the bat while others go through crappy setups until they find something they like and stop looking. Then there are those of us who find something they love, but still want to make it even better. For me I've got the hardware pretty well dialed in. I was a dripper for years and loved the flavor/vapor production but the process could be cumbersome under certain situations. Bottom feeders solved that and with RDAs I don't need higher voltage any more so my Reo is perfect for me. Now it's just all about perfecting my juice recipes. After a lot of trial and error I've determined I don't like using PG in mine at all, but I still have to perfect some of my flavor mixes. You'll get to that point too, but whether your results will be anything like mine is anybody's guess.

 

[Zealous]

Well i may be confused with my vaping info based on what you have all said.
Ive only been vaping a few months and have by now bought at least 40 bottles of different juices at different vg/pg levels.
Initially I was using an 80/20 pg mix juice with a 1.8 watt clearomiser…evods.
It was suggested that i try higher VG to stop getting an irritated throat and I have found the higher VG did seem to be a bit softer on my throat, but come to think of it, not always!
With this latest lot of juice coming in at 24mg, its worse. And i drink heaps of water!
So…. Maybe I go back to 18mg nic and try 50/50 pg as well as getting a variable device? I'm treating this like a detective would…process of elimination???? Is that how you all found your sweet spot? And is it normal to take months to find it?!!

Well 24mg nic will definitely add more TH to your vape so if your throat is irritated it can easily make that worse. If your throat has been more irritated recently with the higher VG I would suggest trying to go back to the lowest vg mix you have for a bit & see how it feels. You may need to try it for a day or 2 to see a difference since your throat is already irritated.

When you first start vaping there is a period of time where your mouth needs to get used to the change. So it is possible your initial problems with the high pg juice had more to do with getting used to vaping & the fact that it dries your mouth out more than being a problem with the juice itself. You might notice your experience with the higher PG is different now than it was when you first started vaping. If it does bother you then move up to a higher VG, but not super high, & test that out for a bit.

Yes, it can take a while to find a juice mix that works well for you. I found mine within a month but I think I got lucky really because I started with 100% VG & knew right away that that was the problem for me. Good luck & just keep testing it out. You'll find the right mix for you if you keep at it.

 

[NicoHolic]

Two things to think about:

1. When you wake up, your body is severely depleted of nicotine.

2. You don't have to vape the same strength all day long.

Try vaping 24 mg when you get up and switch to 18 when you leave for work.

 

[nicetucu]

A VV or VW device is a must. When you don't have that you have to build/purchase toppers in a certain ohm range to get a good vape. It sounds like you know what you're doing.

Also keep in mind many of us smoked as well (including me) while we started to vape. It actually took me 3 months before I could put the cigs down forever. Some can do it from day one. When I had my last cig I didn't even realize it at that moment. I just drove passed the store and decided not to buy any that day. Kinda glad it worked out that way.

It is not a magical process, you need to want to quit as well and stick to your guns. The first 3 weeks is the hardest buddy. After that it gets much easier and at 6 weeks you really feel better in so many ways. Good luck! And grab a mod and or ego batteries for backups.