I just got some true Joye 510 cartomizers from Totally Wicked, and I'm really disappointed by them.
I bought 5 of the them, with the standard ....bacco flavor (fully knowing that ahead of time), and was stunned to see that they are completely made out of plastic. I popped it onto my Icon and began vaping them so that I could vape out all of the existing juice and fill it with better tasting juice. Within 5 puffs, I was vaping plastic and that horrible tobacco flavor.
Strike 1 called against the burning plastic.
The form factor for this cartomizer is horrible. You need to use a syringe to fill this guy after removing a cap and a plastic stopper, almost identical to the eGo cartomizers. Obviously, this isn't conducive for on-the-go filling. It was forgivable for the eGo cartomizers because you could fill an eGo cartomizer up with 2.5 mL's of liquid, but it isn't for a standard cartomizer that holds only 1 mL. There's no way in hell that I'm going to haul around an opening tool like a bent paper clip and a syringe to fill. I definitely don't want to be caught in the public eye with a syringe. I'm really apprehensive about that.
Strike 2 called against the horribly inconvenient filling method
Lastly, the metal adapter actually broke off of the plastic housing the first time I unscrewed it from the Icon. This thing lacks the durability to be used for an extended amount of time. I don't want to put it in my pocket for fear that the plastic housing would crack off and leak all over my cellphone and keys. The plastic seems to be rather brittle, more-so than a standard 510 cartridge. This is nitpicking here, but the plastic is also really shiny, and doesn't match up well with my media blasted Icon.
Strike 3 called against the durability of this cartomizer. These things are out.
One other thing that seemed to annoy me about these cartomizers is that they are significantly longer than the BOGE or SLB 510 cartomizers. That's due to the space needed for the awkward filling method. About 1/3 of its' length is dedicated to that. If you could cut off the filling port, it would probably be as long as a BOGE or SLB cartomizer. Either way, it makes a compact device like the Icon much longer than it needs to be.
The only saving grace for this cartomizer is that it actually gives off really decent vapor. It is definitely on par with the BOGE's or SLB's. Since mine cracked open, I did get a chance to look at the internals, and it loooks like it has an actual atomizer at the base of the cartomizer, minus the steel bridge, with additional fibers that help wick the liquid from the polyfil.
One other side benefit emerged after the cartomizer broke open. I suppose you could drip-fill the polyfil, because it is exposed when the atomizer is broken off of the housing, much like filling an M401 cartridge. I won't be doing that because, once again, I'm fearful of the brittle plastic cracking off of the atomizer and spilling juice all over what's inside my pockets.
I see no benefit to these cartomizers. With the BOGE's and SLB's, I can pop the soft cap off with my teeth and quickly refill them. BOGE's and SLB's also contain no plastic that could burn, and SLB's actually have a layer of cotton (which doesn't burn at the coil's operating temperature) around its' coil to insure great flavor. Sometimes the BOGE's burn the polyfil inside of them, but it's definitely not like the flavor of burning plastic, and that only happens when the polyfil is dry. I have yet to have a single BOGE or SLB cartomizer break open on me due to the fact that they are constructed from a more durable material (aluminum, I think).
I won't be buying them again, especially now that my new moated 510 Icon adapter's threads now accept BOGE and SLB 510 cartomizers. The remaining four Joye cartomizers that I have will end up in my car and in my school bag to be used in cases of extreme emergency.
The old saying goes, "Don't fix what isn't broke" or "Don't try to reinvent the wheel". Joye came up short with these things.
I bought 5 of the them, with the standard ....bacco flavor (fully knowing that ahead of time), and was stunned to see that they are completely made out of plastic. I popped it onto my Icon and began vaping them so that I could vape out all of the existing juice and fill it with better tasting juice. Within 5 puffs, I was vaping plastic and that horrible tobacco flavor.
Strike 1 called against the burning plastic.
The form factor for this cartomizer is horrible. You need to use a syringe to fill this guy after removing a cap and a plastic stopper, almost identical to the eGo cartomizers. Obviously, this isn't conducive for on-the-go filling. It was forgivable for the eGo cartomizers because you could fill an eGo cartomizer up with 2.5 mL's of liquid, but it isn't for a standard cartomizer that holds only 1 mL. There's no way in hell that I'm going to haul around an opening tool like a bent paper clip and a syringe to fill. I definitely don't want to be caught in the public eye with a syringe. I'm really apprehensive about that.
Strike 2 called against the horribly inconvenient filling method
Lastly, the metal adapter actually broke off of the plastic housing the first time I unscrewed it from the Icon. This thing lacks the durability to be used for an extended amount of time. I don't want to put it in my pocket for fear that the plastic housing would crack off and leak all over my cellphone and keys. The plastic seems to be rather brittle, more-so than a standard 510 cartridge. This is nitpicking here, but the plastic is also really shiny, and doesn't match up well with my media blasted Icon.
Strike 3 called against the durability of this cartomizer. These things are out.
One other thing that seemed to annoy me about these cartomizers is that they are significantly longer than the BOGE or SLB 510 cartomizers. That's due to the space needed for the awkward filling method. About 1/3 of its' length is dedicated to that. If you could cut off the filling port, it would probably be as long as a BOGE or SLB cartomizer. Either way, it makes a compact device like the Icon much longer than it needs to be.
The only saving grace for this cartomizer is that it actually gives off really decent vapor. It is definitely on par with the BOGE's or SLB's. Since mine cracked open, I did get a chance to look at the internals, and it loooks like it has an actual atomizer at the base of the cartomizer, minus the steel bridge, with additional fibers that help wick the liquid from the polyfil.
One other side benefit emerged after the cartomizer broke open. I suppose you could drip-fill the polyfil, because it is exposed when the atomizer is broken off of the housing, much like filling an M401 cartridge. I won't be doing that because, once again, I'm fearful of the brittle plastic cracking off of the atomizer and spilling juice all over what's inside my pockets.
I see no benefit to these cartomizers. With the BOGE's and SLB's, I can pop the soft cap off with my teeth and quickly refill them. BOGE's and SLB's also contain no plastic that could burn, and SLB's actually have a layer of cotton (which doesn't burn at the coil's operating temperature) around its' coil to insure great flavor. Sometimes the BOGE's burn the polyfil inside of them, but it's definitely not like the flavor of burning plastic, and that only happens when the polyfil is dry. I have yet to have a single BOGE or SLB cartomizer break open on me due to the fact that they are constructed from a more durable material (aluminum, I think).
I won't be buying them again, especially now that my new moated 510 Icon adapter's threads now accept BOGE and SLB 510 cartomizers. The remaining four Joye cartomizers that I have will end up in my car and in my school bag to be used in cases of extreme emergency.
The old saying goes, "Don't fix what isn't broke" or "Don't try to reinvent the wheel". Joye came up short with these things.
