Time for a Vape Break

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angelique510

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I am eagerly awaiting my first e-cig. (a pink Sidesho from Modern Vapor :))

I am a heavy smoker, practically a chain smoker. For 20 years it seems like my life has revolved around cigarettes.

Nicotine addiction is part of it, but not the biggest part by far, or else I would have been able to quit by using patches or gum or something.

A big part is the tactile gratification of smoking, the hand to mouth, or just having something in my hand. I cut down on cigarettes when I learned to knit. I always have either a cigarette or knitting needles in my hands, unless I am actively working on something else or sleeping. I almost quit using the Nicoltrol inhaler, but it lacked the fire and the pretty billows of smoke. The e-cig should take care of all that with the LED and the clouds of vapor.

I also have a bit of a smoking fetish, but that is a discussion for another 18 and over forum. LOL I guess I never outgrew thinking of smoking as cool and sexy, which is what caused me to start in the first place. I remember practicing "french inhaling" in front of the mirror with my girlfriends back in junior high. And we all know that the "bad boys" -smokers of course - were the cute ones. With so many choices as to styles of e-cigs and liquid flavors, I think the cool part is covered. And I have seen "sexy" used as an adjective many times on this forum.

I smoke when I am finished with something or get to a stopping or break point in whatever I am doing. A neurologist once told me that the nicotine molecule fits into the neurorecptor that signals completion. That is probably why people smoke after a meal, when they finish a project or after sex. Having a smoke signifies "doneness."

I use a cigarette to mark time. (I have heard of this invention called a clock, but......) My dumpling recipe is: add dumplings to stew, cook without the lid for one cigarette, cover and cook for another cigarette. When waiting for a ride, I have been known to say "I was waiting for three whole cigarettes!" My favorite authour tends to write in chapters that are about two cigarettes long.

Then there is the "smoke break" From the time I light the cigarette until the time I snuff it out, time and the world stops. (I have yet to get my family to understand this concept, though) While it burns there is a period of time where I sit and do nothing. When it burns down to the filter, I know that it is time to go back to work (or light another one for a longer break)

Smoking a cigarettes takes a pre-measured amount of time, say seven to ten minutes, give or take. In high school, my algebra teacher asked me why I took so long in the girl's room. I told her it was because I smoked 120s.

So I wonder - how long is a "vape break"? I have read that a cartridge lasts as long as several cigarettes. Does that mean that I will be sitting there vaping for half an hour? I wouldn't count on me putting the thing down while there was still vape left in it. Or buying a watch or looking at a clock, for that matter. So how do you know when you are done having a vape?

I am just sharing my mental meanderings on the subject, but I am interested in your comments and suggestions, and even a good conversation on the subject. Maybe I should have put this in the "Quitting" thread. But I am thinking of this as "switching" from analogs to e-cigs, as opposed to quitting. It makes it less scary that way.

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I am just sharing my mental meanderings on the subject, but I am interested in your comments and suggestions, and even a good conversation on the subject. Maybe I should have put this in the "Quitting" thread. But I am thinking of this as "switching" from analogs to e-cigs, as opposed to quitting. It makes it less scary that way.

Be well,
~A

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You have done your homework very well. Colour me impressed for someone who has yet to take her first vape. Kudos, ma'am.

Switching to vaping has been compared by some as "switching brands of cigarettes". If that makes the transmogrification from smoking to vaping easier, so be it.

I also admire your willingness to confess to smoking as being "cool and sexy". I think a lot of us, well me anyway, find it less than macho to admit to the coolness factor. <g> Oh, the addiction to nicotine is real, there's no doubt about that but the initial attraction to smoking had a certain "coolness" about it.

FWIW, I am nearing my 5th analog-free month. I have no urge to smoke another -- been that way since my second week of vaping. I have experienced the "doneness" factor too with vaping in nearly every capacity where I used to light a cigarette. And, I no longer vape when I can like I did with smoking -- ie; exiting a building, getting behind the wheel of the car, etc. In short, I vape when I feel like it not when the situation dictates that I can.

Be careful with that "timing" thing, btw. You may find yourself cooking food too long. LOL That 3 or 4 minute cigarette burn will no longer exist when you vape. A full cart lasts me for a couple of hours. The "dripping" method may suit you better, as far as a timing mechanism, at first vape. But, you will learn that as you go, I'm sure.

Best of luck to you. And use these forums as a support group. They are indispensable that way.
 

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Welcome!

Vaping, for me anyway, does not 'fill me up' the way a cigarette did. There is no real feeling of having had enough, it is easy to just keep vaping non-stop until you feel you have had too mch nicotine.

I use dripping to control my intake, 2-3 drops is about the same a cigarette, and when that's gone I know I have had my fix for a short while.

Another good method is to use zero or low nicotine juice most of the time, possibly cutting the liquid, and have some higher nic liquid for a 'spike' when you need it. For a long time I vaped 6mg all day, and 24mg in the morning, after meals etc etc.

It will tak you time to discover what works for you, this is just my experience.

Andy
 

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So I wonder - how long is a "vape break"?

When I first started vaping, I tried to keep my old smoking routines. At home, I went outside on my back porch to vape. At work, I went down to the smoking area... this didn't last long, as the smell from other smokers became unpleasant.

My vape break lasts... all day. I don't set aside time to vape, I do it whenever I want. At work, I stealth vape in my cube. At home, I vape in my chair in the living room. No harm, no foul.

It wasn't a difficult transition, but it was a strange one. At bedtime, I'd find myself walking toward the back porch to have my last smoke of the day. I'd stop, chuckle, grab my PV and take it with me to the bedroom, taking a couple of puffs.

So, for me, there is no such thing as a vape break. The "smoke break" is a thing of the past.
 

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Let me add my WELCOME to the forum.

I understand perfectly about using an analog as a timing mechanism. I was a chain smoker too and used to pull out my analogs when I finished a task.

It took me almost a month before I wasn't chain vaping. It took about 2 weeks for me to completely switch over to e-cigs. (now analogs taste NASTY!)

The nic strength is probably the key. I started out too low (6mg) but once I increased to 16, I was able to put it down.

I do not drip but understand it is a good way to control how long you vape and it might work for you. You should at least try it.
 

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I was never in a work environment where I had to take smoke breaks, hence chain smoking was an all day and night affair for me. After over 4 months I still chain vape most of the time. I do however find myself not feeling like I have to always carry one in my mouth anymore lol.

I vary nic levels from 0 to 24 depending on mood. Mostly 12mg.
 

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I have only been vaping for a few days, and yes, the 'vape break' has been an issue for me. With an analog, you know when you are finished but not so with vaping. I think I am going to try the dripping method, at least for a while, that way I will have a better idea on when I have actually smoked the equivalent of a cigarette.
 

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Angelique, one of the biggest reasons so many people have trouble quitting is because they truly love smoking! Just like you and i. And for people like us, i believe vaping is the perfect alternative ;) believe me, you will not be unsatisfied!

The only thing i see you seriously adjusting to is the timing; generally, there is no "timing" for using an e-cig, you simply vape until you're happy. Sometimes this means only a couple puffs, sometimes it means a half-hour sit-down vape session.

I agree with richie that dripping might be your best bet for that (it tastes better too!), but if you really wanna go the timing route, your best bet might be to only drip one drop at a time. I use 3 drops and it lasts too long for me to time it (10-15 min).

Also, if you're gonna drip, get manual batteries!! You're in luck as they just started making those for the sidesho; unfortunately they're not available yet. If you drip straight down on an automatic battery, the liquid can get inside your battery and damage it! Try holding the e-cig horizontally and dripping on it sideways to avoid that. You can also dip with the sidesho's exposed atomizer, but i have no idea how long that lasts as i've never done it.

Let us know how you make out with the sidesho, i've been considering that model for a long time and would love to hear your review :)

Good luck and happy vaping :D
 

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I am eagerly awaiting my first e-cig. (a pink Sidesho from Modern Vapor :))

I am a heavy smoker, practically a chain smoker. For 20 years it seems like my life has revolved around cigarettes.

Nicotine addiction is part of it, but not the biggest part by far, or else I would have been able to quit by using patches or gum or something.

A big part is the tactile gratification of smoking, the hand to mouth, or just having something in my hand. I cut down on cigarettes when I learned to knit. I always have either a cigarette or knitting needles in my hands, unless I am actively working on something else or sleeping. I almost quit using the Nicoltrol inhaler, but it lacked the fire and the pretty billows of smoke. The e-cig should take care of all that with the LED and the clouds of vapor.

I also have a bit of a smoking fetish, but that is a discussion for another 18 and over forum. LOL I guess I never outgrew thinking of smoking as cool and sexy, which is what caused me to start in the first place. I remember practicing "french inhaling" in front of the mirror with my girlfriends back in junior high. And we all know that the "bad boys" -smokers of course - were the cute ones. With so many choices as to styles of e-cigs and liquid flavors, I think the cool part is covered. And I have seen "sexy" used as an adjective many times on this forum.

I smoke when I am finished with something or get to a stopping or break point in whatever I am doing. A neurologist once told me that the nicotine molecule fits into the neurorecptor that signals completion. That is probably why people smoke after a meal, when they finish a project or after sex. Having a smoke signifies "doneness."

I use a cigarette to mark time. (I have heard of this invention called a clock, but......) My dumpling recipe is: add dumplings to stew, cook without the lid for one cigarette, cover and cook for another cigarette. When waiting for a ride, I have been known to say "I was waiting for three whole cigarettes!" My favorite authour tends to write in chapters that are about two cigarettes long.

Then there is the "smoke break" From the time I light the cigarette until the time I snuff it out, time and the world stops. (I have yet to get my family to understand this concept, though) While it burns there is a period of time where I sit and do nothing. When it burns down to the filter, I know that it is time to go back to work (or light another one for a longer break)

Smoking a cigarettes takes a pre-measured amount of time, say seven to ten minutes, give or take. In high school, my algebra teacher asked me why I took so long in the girl's room. I told her it was because I smoked 120s.

So I wonder - how long is a "vape break"? I have read that a cartridge lasts as long as several cigarettes. Does that mean that I will be sitting there vaping for half an hour? I wouldn't count on me putting the thing down while there was still vape left in it. Or buying a watch or looking at a clock, for that matter. So how do you know when you are done having a vape?

I am just sharing my mental meanderings on the subject, but I am interested in your comments and suggestions, and even a good conversation on the subject. Maybe I should have put this in the "Quitting" thread. But I am thinking of this as "switching" from analogs to e-cigs, as opposed to quitting. It makes it less scary that way.

Be well,
~A
Angelique, you did a marvelous job of analyzing how and why people smoke. I identified with everything you said. The good news is that you will find the e cig is the perfect tool to still do all that you said and more...mainly because you don't have to put it down.
 

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Using smoking as a timing device....I can't believe you that whole concept so well into words. I did the same thing. I remember sitting outside on the porch perfectly enjoying my 10 minute break, wondering how in the world non-smokers could enjoy a break, or why they even needed one! I truly believed during those 10 minutes that my joy in doing nothing was perfectly justified, but wouldn't be if I weren't smoking! So whether I took just a 1 cig break (10 min), or extended it to 2 (20 min), all was fine as long as I was smoking. Just sitting there wouldn't have been. Strange indeed.

I was fortunate, I didn't have to mail order my PV. It was 1.5 hours away from it and enjoyed every mile of the trip through the mountains. I knew when I hit Frisco, I was just one cigarette (10 mi) away from my first 510. So I lit up and tried hard to enjoy what I didn't know would be my LAST cigarette ever!

Vaping is truly somewhat of an adjustment as far as the timing issue goes, because generally there are no barriers or obstacles we must overcome before we can enjoy it. I know I don't have to go out to the porch to have a vape, but I often do anyway, simply because I associate it with breaktime.

Thanks for your very interesting post, which I'll bet all of us vapers can identify with, but probably never really expressed out loud. :)
 

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Yes, the timing does change. I went from getting out bed, starting the coffee, pouring a cup then straight outside for me first cup and smoke. Now, even though I can vape inside, I am finding that I vape after my 2nd or 3rd cup.

I also went from 10 analogs/day to about 5-7 vape sessions and I don't necessarily have to vape after meals, or say stepping out of a bar. Whereas with analogs one was in my hand on the way out.

I am a little over 2 weeks into it now but about a week ago I met my smoking neighbor in the courtyard for a "smoke." She smoked about 10 a day like me but was having a stressful moment and smoked 3 analogs in about 1/2 an hour. I would have been right there with her with analog for analog but instead I had my 510 and had no interest in an analog.
 

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Thanks for all the wonderful replies :) Yes, ECF will be a great support system.

"I truly believed during those 10 minutes that my joy in doing nothing was perfectly justified, but wouldn't be if I weren't smoking!"

That is so true. There is the whole "I am doing something - I'm smoking!"

Also, outside smoking is where a lot of the socializing happens at work or at school. Complaining about the weather or the price of smokes nowadays is a perfectly justifiable reason to start a conversation with a total stranger.

Hmmm..... Timing idea - what about a cute little "hour-glass" egg timer? Intently watching the sand drop down to the bottom just adds another level to the ritual/ OCD-ness of the experience.

Did I say OCD? Yes, yes I did. I think it's a safe bet that we all have a touch of OCD.

I'm off to eBay now :)

~A
 

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I am aso new to vaping- (Just received my Dragon yesterday) I also ordered a Sidesho- My husband and I are both going to vaping-
I have already found-
- I am thinking about how my thought process will change

-I am thinking if I am still going to need about 3 cigs in the AM w/ my coffee

-I am thinking should I vape for 7 min like the time it takes me to smoke a 100 cig?

You put so much out there that is so true- I never smoked in school so I can't attest to the cool factor- I started smoking mainly because I was always at the club and eventually trying to get away from cig smoke by staying on the dance floor just wasn't working- I picked up a cig froma friend and hit it a few times- then as I started being able to handle smoke, it turned to a habit, then it was more than the club, then it was on the way home, on the way to bed, as I was sitting still watching TV, anytime I had alcohol, etc
Now, as many habits and lifestyles have changed for me, smoking hadn't- but I have tried many other ways to quit and no luck! I always miss the hand to mouth, the mechanics... So, this seems the way for us-
Since I am very new as well- I can't say how I will know to put it down- this first day it has just been a novelty so to speak- I am still a bit tentative- I haven't gotten my other flavors and strengths yet so I am waiting on that- & My Sidesho should be here Monday or Tuesday- It was sent out yesterday- We got the Dragon yesterday- I do like it- Haven't seen a problem yet- I am trying to use it enough to see if anything is abnormal but seems to be a good piece- Good Luck in your quest- This forum has been great! Stick around awhile- let us know how you're doing
Oh! I am keeping a journal- I just want to keep track of habits and use, etc so I can determine how I am decreasing and the use factor...
Figured it would help if I ever write a book- LOL j/k (maybe) :rolleyes:
 
When waiting for my starter kit I found I was passing the time by counting the packs of butts. Now I just vape to just chill and relax. EXCEPT I just lost a battery and freaked out, no I was in full blown panic attack since I thought it was my pass through not working... was a clogged gooey atty.

Now I am just huffing and chilling.
 
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