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Tips on cloud chasing for ONLY 28g Kanthal? +Tips on wicking

Discussion in 'Cloud Chasers' started by oDANo, Dec 1, 2014.

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  1. oDANo

    oDANo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 29, 2013
    VA
    I've seen everyone using as low as 22g-26g for cloud chasing, but my order of new kanthal hasn't arrived yet, so I'm trying to see what my best bet is for 28g. My target ohms is 0.3-0.4. Currently I'm using a K100, on a IGO-W drilled out to 1/16. My 4Nine, trident, and quasar should arrive later today. Hoping to get better results than my current setup, which is a dual micro coil, 8 wraps, hitting about 0.5ohms. The vapor production was alright for using 50/50 juice and I think my wicking is terrible haha, and I had a hotspot on one of the coils. So pretty much I would like to know which RDA would be better for cloud chasing out of my IGO-W, Quasar, and Trident, using 28g Kanthal. I only use a 2mm driver to wrap my coils, not sure if I should use 1.5mm instead, since it's so hard for me to wick it at 2mm already.(I always have to use some force to pull the cotton through the coil). And would using 90/10 juice help alot with vapor production?

    Sorry for the long paragraph, hope to hear some great responses, thanks!

    -Edit, I also have 18650 MNKE 1500mah, eFest 2500 35A, eFest IMR 2000mah batts.
     
  2. oDANo

    oDANo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 29, 2013
    VA
  3. SLIPPY_EEL

    SLIPPY_EEL Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2013
    Ω England Ω
    if your looking for something to do with your time and 28g have a look on youtube at twisted messes zipper wire, its a good vape but you'll have to use whichever atty you have the bigger post holes on.
    And go have a look at Yosh vapergate video on wicking, it will help :)

    Thats all i got :D
     
  4. tmel

    tmel Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2013
    Denver, CO
    The cotton should move freely in the coil with no resistance. If there is resistance, you're using too much cotton.
     
  5. G-weezy

    G-weezy Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 16, 2014
    Minneapolis
    Dual Parallel coils.
     
  6. johndoe1027

    johndoe1027 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    NC, USA
    Yes. That. ^

    Not that. ^

    THAT. ^



    I'd go closer to 3mm on the diameter personally. I have settled into 1/8" coils for cloud chasing. 2mm and 0.5ohm is what I run on my pocket 18350 rig. Do parallel 28ga dual coils, 3mm and 6/5 wraps. That'll vape. And it's only 14A. Nice and easy on your batteries.
     
  7. khrone

    khrone Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2014
    Finland

    Will give that a go :) thanks
     
  8. johndoe1027

    johndoe1027 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    NC, USA
    No problem at all. Let us know what you think. Are you the OP with a different handle?
     
  9. khrone

    khrone Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2014
    Finland

    No im not the OP, just looking for some ideas for coils, only atm have at hand 26g and 28g using them on sig100 w/ mx2
     
  10. khrone

    khrone Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2014
    Finland
    Been using this build for a while now, came out 0.6ohm. Not too hot or cold and puts out nice clouds
     
  11. femurofsteel

    femurofsteel Full Member

    Oct 5, 2014
    Morganton, NC, USA
    I use 26g Kanthal, 5 wraps on 1/16th drill bit, dual coil. Comes in at about 0.25 ohms and the flavor and vapor production on my Tobh v3 is phenomenal.

    I'd personally say to stick with your 26g rather than 28g, as cloud chasing with 28g will likely produce hot legs, especially if your down to the .2 range like I am. I ditched my 28g for that reason.
     
  12. 1mouse3

    1mouse3 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2014
    dark side of the moon
    try dual parallel 28g 4 1/2 rap 3.5mm coils, thinking of trying triple parallel coils

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  13. johndoe1027

    johndoe1027 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    NC, USA
    I don't know that I've seen triple parallel 28ga coils yet. If you built two coils that are triple parallel 28ga around the 3.5mm you'd need 7.5 wraps to get 0.3 ohm. That's over twice as much total coil as you have there. At 60W (assuming mech mod) that's 99 mW/mm^2 heat flux. I personally shoot for more like 200-300. I think the reason for the low heat flux is the (relatively) low wattage that's trying to heat almost 2 ft of 28ga. I ran into this trying 0.2 ohm with 24ga dual parallels (at 120 mW/mm heat flux). Hated it.

    Now... take the triple 28ga and drop it to 4.5 wraps and 0.2 ohm. You've got less wire (still huge) and more wattage for 217 metric heat flux. I would personally like that a lot better.
     
  14. 1mouse3

    1mouse3 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2014
    dark side of the moon
    well now you can see dual triple parallel 28g 4.5 rap 3.5mm coils, should had did 5.5 rap because the wicks gets dried too fast. will tweak it again tomorrow to see if I can get this worked out

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  15. 1mouse3

    1mouse3 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2014
    dark side of the moon
    fixed the issue I was having with the coil burning off too quick and not wicking. the screw driver I used yesterday was not quite 3.5mm, so jammed a 3.5mm phone jack throw them and that resolved the wicking issue
     
  16. G-weezy

    G-weezy Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 16, 2014
    Minneapolis
    Also try quad 28ga single coil :vapor:
     
  17. johndoe1027

    johndoe1027 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    NC, USA
    Why be so vanilla? What up with that triple twisted quad parallel inception coil?
     
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  18. 1mouse3

    1mouse3 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2014
    dark side of the moon
    dual triple twisted 28g anyone

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  19. crackizzle

    crackizzle Full Member

    Jun 6, 2014
    Meridian, MS
    I've been running a three wire 28g parallel claptoned in 28 g wire. Dual coils, 3 wraps around 2 mm @ 0.10 ohm. It's one of my two best builds for clouds the other being 20g twisted with 26g; dual coils, 5 wrap around 2.4 mm @ 0.10 ohm. My general advice is try to think of ways to both lower resistance and increase surface area, if you're using a mech. Or you can try to target a specific resistance with the largest amount of surface area on a regulated device (ex. My 28g/32g fused Clapton single coil, 6 wrap around 2.0 mm @ 0.47 ohm in my steamboat. I run it at about 75 watts on my Sigelei 100w). All thickness of wire have uses for cloud chasing, multi twisted high gauge wire has excellent heat flux and ramp up properties. I find myself rarely using anything but 28 or 32 gauge.
     
  20. MarylandJo

    MarylandJo Full Member

    I got bored the other night and twisted about a foot or two of 28g, folded it in half, clipped it, then made a parallel single coil with the twisted. Came out to .4 wrapped 5 times and knocked me on my bum the first time I hit it. I'm hitting it on an unregulated mech mod and it puffs like a damn chimney.

    Note: this was my second build ever so I'm still tweaking it a little but it works pretty damn good right now
     
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