Titanium wire, vaping and safety

[2legsshrt]

OK Wide I thought I would give it a try like you said I went to 420 14J Ti mode with nickel I normally vape at 390 14J. It actually was pretty stable not quite as much so as with nickel but pretty good vape. HMMMM It's only jumping as high as 428 and low of 418 which is pretty good. With the lower resistance it was jumping around about 40 degrees.

 

[2legsshrt]

I tried the same on my .28 coils and it wants to go to 440 or 20 over setting.

 

[2legsshrt]

Now if I go to 460 with 12J it is pretty stable with the .28 coils and pretty good vape. I think the problem with stability is too much power to the coil but the temp is still way higher then it should be.

 

[2legsshrt]

Turned it down to 260 12J Ni mode much better vape and perfect stability right on 260. Something is not right with the Ti mode. If I can get stability in Ni mode should get it in Ti mode and the temp should be the same as when you are using nickel. I think YiHi is asleep at the switch. I have sent them several emails and no response. This is really starting to piss me off if they have any kind of engineers that came up with the Ni firmware they could have gotten this fixed by now. It has been a month.

 

[2legsshrt]

It is far more stable with the higher resistance. .43 work well at 420 14J but with 26 being the most popular wire you have to use 8 wraps and unless I use a contact coil it won't fit in my atties. If they can do it with nickel then if they were on the ball they could do it with Ti also. The contact coil works but not sure if it is as flavorful as the 5 wrap spaced but it does work.

 

[2legsshrt]

Well I found the flavor went back to 5 coils space 260 12J on Ni mode. I'm satisfied but if they are going to come out with an upgrade why not do it right or at least give us some news on this.

 

[2legsshrt]

guess I should do all this b!tching on the SX thread.

 

[tchavei]

guess I should do all this b!tching on the SX thread.

[emoji106]

Regards
Tony

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[Madnapali]

Just did my first gennie with titanium. Nahaulon - 28g 5 wraps on [HASHTAG]#400[/HASHTAG] mesh. OM read it at .3, SX is reading it at .33. I'm sure it'll read lower later, as it has been.

I dry fired it with the temp on 300F at 11J, and took care of the hot top leg that the Nahaulon always seems to have. I was soon able to hold the fire button and see nothing. Splashed a few drops of juice on and noted that it was boiling at the middle. Money!

Vaping at 15J, 300F and it's working fantastically.

 

[JimScotty0]

Hmmm, I'm now wondering what I'm doing wrong? I'm using Ti1 mode at 450°F - admittedly a bit higher than 430°F I used to use for NI200 - and am getting a great vape. There are loads of variables I suppose, and for my setup/way of vaping it works fine. For completeness: SXMiniM, 24g Ti1 (Zipipv), 6 wraps (maybe 5, forgot), spaced, 0.21 ohm, 4mm ID, preheated at 570°F, 24J, Lemo2, 75/25 juice, full airflow. That said, I seem to be in a minority?

Not complaining obviously, just curious why it seems to work where so many state their Ti1 setup works a lot better in Ni200 mode.

I only use Ti mode with Ti coils and it works as I think it should with the only exception of having to bump up the temp about 15% or so more to get the same vape as I would with NI200.

 

[WideO]

bump up the temp about 15% or so more to get the same vape as I would with NI200.

OK, that seems consistent with what I'm experiencing. Not scientific, but I'm pretty sure that's what I needed to do too. Maybe not strictly related to this thread as it's an SX thingy, but kinda relevant as we are still talking about the TCR - which affects all mods.

PS: for new readers to this thread: this is just us talking the finer points, I'm having a fantastic result with Ti1 on the SX Mini M, thoroughly enjoying the taste of my DIY liquid in a completely hassle free way.

 

[jks89]

Hmmm, I'm now wondering what I'm doing wrong? I'm using Ti1 mode at 450°F - admittedly a bit higher than 430°F I used to use for NI200 - and am getting a great vape. There are loads of variables I suppose, and for my setup/way of vaping it works fine. For completeness: SXMiniM, 24g Ti1 (Zipipv), 6 wraps (maybe 5, forgot), spaced, 0.21 ohm, 4mm ID, preheated at 570°F, 24J, Lemo2, 75/25 juice, full airflow. That said, I seem to be in a minority?

Not complaining obviously, just curious why it seems to work where so many state their Ti1 setup works a lot better in Ni200 mode.

If you're getting a vape you like, you're doing it right. Wick it up with an orange peel if you get a good vape, and forget what everybody else says about their settings.

 

[Madnapali]

If you're getting a vape you like, you're doing it right. Wick it up with an orange peel if you get a good vape, and forget what everybody else says about their settings.

That's definitely pertinent whilst entering the unknown territory of titanium. Especially for those of us running it in nickel modes. You've gotta go with your gut on how well it's functioning.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Sorry if it's been covered. I am getting some spider silk 26 gauge titanium soon and was wondering if anyone had a link to a TCR that I can use (am about to check Evolv's website for this). Edit: Just found the steam engine calculator linked there. Anyone have any suggested changes for that?

Also, is a dual 26 with a number of wraps (7-10 each side) capable of consistently handling 100 watts or would I need to twist it for each coil so that it does not heat up super quickly?

 

[Madnapali]

FYI for everyone, YiHi released the test version of the standalone SX350J Ti (not SX Mini M) firmware today. I just installed it, seems to be working so far.

Download-yihiecigar,sx350,Yihi SX350,dna30 30W chip,SX350 35W chip Manufacturers & Suppliers - Dongguan Yihi Electronic Co.,Limited - Page 1

 

[ShowerHead]

I'm using Unkamen 28 gauge Ti and think it's a wonderful experience.
I wrap spaced coils using 4 wraps around a 6-32 X 1.25" machine screw. Comes out perfect every time.
I went to Ti because every Ni build I did was VERY shortlived. Some didn't even make it through a single tank! Could be my hamhanded wicking, but with the Unkamen Ti, I haven't had a problem. The coil I'm vaping now is about a week old. Never happened with Ni. Ever.
Not real happy with the Mini M firmware right now. Never shows a temp, just randomly puts a number up and it never changes. I'm fairly certain if I'm vaping happily the temp must be more then 17C.
I'll be happy to see a release version of the firmware, but I'll keep the test version because while it has some weirdness, it does in fact work.

 

[dr3d]

Dunno why, but the Ti test for the sx350j seems to have taken a crap. Initial impression was positive and allowed me to come off of my 260F, 35J setting to a Ti01 setting of 380F, 35J. But, the success seems to have been short lived. I'm pushing a dual 26g Ti (sypder silk) at .14 ohms which I have been vaping successfully for a little over a week with my compensated setting. Initially, the build took to the Ti mode and was a terrific vape, but after a full day of happiness ... the flavor and vapor production took a crap. I'd blame my build, but ... when I pushed it back to Ni @ 260F everything came back to life.

I can't understand or explain this finding. But, maybe one of y'all can tell me what is going on. It is almost as if the firmware was programmed to self destruct. FWIW, I'm running a Billow V2 on a Boxer (dual coils - ergo the seemingly high Joules settings).

 

[vaperXant]

I have a Vector coming in tomorrow, along with some spider silk 26G. First Ti wire and I only got 10 feet so I don't wanna mess it up. Can anyone recommend a build with ID, ohms and wraps that works well? I have all size posts to wrap on. Also it will be spaced.

 

[jurdanas]

I can't understand or explain this finding. But, maybe one of y'all can tell me what is going on. It is almost as if the firmware was programmed to self destruct. FWIW, I'm running a Billow V2 on a B

All is well, raise your temperature up 30-40F, "Ti" - a bad heat away. I lifted up 30F - for me everything recovered.
Try

 

[JimScotty0]

I have a Vector coming in tomorrow, along with some spider silk 26G. First Ti wire and I only got 10 feet so I don't wanna mess it up. Can anyone recommend a build with ID, ohms and wraps that works well? I have all size posts to wrap on. Also it will be spaced.

Jurdanas, I also have been using SpiderSilk and is the only Ti wire I currently have to test with. I built with it about 3 weeks ago on my Zephyrus, and soon after using 3mm wraps on my Mutation X v4 which is fairly similar to the Vector.

Here is what I built and is still performing well. I am using the same coils with only wick changing and cleaning since the Ti wire holds up well for the long haul it seems.

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