To all you mech users at 8.4 volts am I wrong

[cigatron]

I am not a electrician only what I studied but this is my understanding please correct me if I'm wrong
1st I'm talking volt drop from the resistance of the modded it's self I seen some big volt drops in unregulated wired mods.

So you do a volt test and lets just say ur getting 7volts of a 8.4 v mod my understanding ohms and load is still the same to the battery just some volts are lost throw the wiring but my understanding is still calling the same load from the battery


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I've read all your posts here and your are right on Outcast. Your math is correct but the person that said it's safe to vape a series mod at .2 ohms left out some very important info ie with what battery? There are a few 18650s that can handle 42A pulse but I'm with you, better safe than sorry. .35 ohms is as low as I go on a series mech mod.

On voltage drop through a mod: Voltage drop is caused by introducing additional series resistance into the current path. Bad connections in the mod's switch, threading, dirty contacts, oxidation and galvanic corrosion can all contribute. That said, this added res to the current path increases the overall circuit res and will thereby draw less overall current from the batt. Think of it as just having a higher res coil installed but you can never count on a mech mod's voltage drop to remain consistent, current draw can fluctuate wildly!

For those who would like to bone up on some helpful electrical concepts:

Simple Series Circuits | Series And Parallel Circuits | Electronics Textbook

 

[Outcast]

I've read all your posts here and your are right on Outcast. Your math is correct but the person that said it's safe to vape a series mod at .2 ohms left out some very important info ie with what battery? There are a few 18650s that can handle 42A pulse but I'm with you, better safe than sorry. .35 ohms is as low as I go on a series mech mod.

On voltage drop through a mod: Voltage drop is caused by introducing additional series resistance into the current path. Bad connections in the mod's switch, threading, dirty contacts, oxidation and galvanic corrosion can all contribute. That said, this added res to the current path increases the overall circuit res and will thereby draw less overall current from the batt. Think of it as just having a higher res coil installed but you can never count on a mech mod's voltage drop to remain consistent, current draw can fluctuate wildly!

Thank you I sometimes don't express myself very well and could be hard to follow thank you for taking the time for that


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[cigatron]

Thank you I sometimes don't express myself very well and could be hard to follow thank you for taking the time for that


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I think you were quite clear from the beginning. I just added a couple of tidbits.

 

[daviedog]

And now we know why the FDA forbids a vape shop from giving advice to customers.
Unless they register as a manufacturer..

 

[Bad Ninja]

And now we know why the FDA forbids a vape shop from giving advice to customers.
Unless they register as a manufacturer..

Which is total insanity.

I give advise to vapers and vape stores.
Im not a manufacturer.

What that regulation does is insure any propaganda or marketing drivel is ALL a customer gets.
Approved by a manufacturer.

It protects the manufacturer, and the product....but not the vaper.


Depending on a minimum wage vape store employee to educate you about mech mod safety is on par with asking a McDonald's employee to advise you on nutrition.

 

[daviedog]

Which is total insanity.

I give advise to vapers and vape stores.
Im not a manufacturer.

What that regulation does is insure any propaganda or marketing drivel is ALL a customer gets.
Approved by a manufacturer.

It protects the manufacturer, and the product....but not the vaper.


Depending on a minimum wage vape store employee to educate you about mech mod safety is on par with asking a McDonald's employee to advise you on nutrition.

Oh i get it.

I listen to you everytime I'm on this forum, with good results i might add.

Glad you don't own a vape store..

 

[Bad Ninja]

Oh i get it.

I listen to you everytime I'm on this forum, with good results i might add.

Glad you don't own a vape store..

I dont think you do "get it".
Not all vape shops are careless.
Not all manufacturers are knowledgeable enough to advise safely.
No government official has shown enough knowledge to advise anyone about vaping.

Lol.
And you wish I ran a vape shop.
Im retired.

 

[daviedog]

I dont think you do "get it".
Not all vape shops are careless.
Not all manufacturers are knowledgeable enough to advise safely.
No government official has shown enough knowledge to advise anyone about vaping.

Lol.
And you wish I ran a vape shop.
Im retired.

Read the post, i said I'm glad you DON'T own a vape shop.

Who knows what, means Nothing. All will be arbitrated by the FDA, period.

Paraphrase;
Know your Government..

 

[Bad Ninja]

Read the post, i said I'm glad you DON'T own a vape shop.

Who knows what, means Nothing. All will be arbitrated by the FDA, period.

Paraphrase;
Know your Government..

No,... You WISH I ran a vape store.

I ran my company for 22 years and sold it to our biggest customer.
Im professional,honest, have integrity, I do straight business, and never had a customer complaint that wasnt handled.

Yep. You wish.


And applauding goverment regulation of an industry they barely understand nakes no sense at all.

Sorry, I cant cheerlead for the FDA to regulate advice.
But if thats your thing.. Go for it.

 

[daviedog]

No,... You WISH I ran a vape store.

I ran my company for 22 years and sold it to our biggest customer.
Im professional,honest, have integrity, I do straight business, and never had a customer complaint that wasnt handled.

Yep. You wish.

I wish you would shut up already, youre boring me to tears..

 

[Bad Ninja]

Unless something changes, the only FDA approved manufacturers in the US will be big tobacco companies.

If only manufacturer can advise usage, then only BT will be able to advise.

Do ya see why many think this is a bad Idea?

 

[daviedog]

You continue to hijack this thread, it's not about your business acumen.
It's about bad advice at a particular vape shop.
I apologize to OP for going a bit off track..

 

[daviedog]

Everyone has had Fair Warning, nothing productive will come from whining about BT or the FDA..

 

[Bad Ninja]

You continue to hijack this thread, it's not about your business acumen.
It's about bad advice at a particular vape shop.
I apologize to OP for going a bit off track..

You made it personal. Not me.

And Im very much on topic.

While the store in the OP was wrong,
I'd rather let vape shops give advice, (and deal with the liabilities) than agree with the FDA censoring them in favor of a big tobacco company is acceptable.


You know,
It's that whole "honesty and integrity" thing that gets in my way of supporting the FDA..

 

[daviedog]

You made it personal. Not me.

And Im very much on topic.

While the store in the OP was wrong,
I'd rather let vape shops give advice, (and deal with the liabilities) than agree with the FDA censoring them in favor of a big tobacco company is acceptable.


You know,
It's that whole "honesty and integrity" thing that gets in my way of supporting the FDA..

Huge difference between Acceptable & as i said Inevitable.
Right or Wrong, the FDA owns vaping & Everything associated with it.
Deal with it, it's later than you think.

Know your Government..

 

[stormjib]

My question is, with all the series mods out there, why use a noisy cricket at all? You can get just as good a vape with a much safer mod...I know that's not what you asked, and I agree that a .2 build is unsafe and unwise....I stay at or above .28 on my series boxes.

 

[Outcast]

Ya bad ninja is cool I for one like to read his stuff


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[KenD]

My question is, with all the series mods out there, why use a noisy cricket at all? You can get just as good a vape with a much safer mod...I know that's not what you asked, and I agree that a .2 build is unsafe and unwise....I stay at or above .28 on my series boxes.

I wouldn't exactly call .28Ω on a series mech "safe". Do you know the accuracy of your ohm reader (you might actually be lower than .28)? Do you only use brand new batteries (the cdr lowers with age/use)?

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[stormjib]

I use two different dna200 chips as my ohm meter. I run LG HB 6's that have less than 50 or 60 charges on them. My batteries never even get warm. I use pwm mods, usually at around 60% on the dial. Point well made, though, knowing your batteries is key.