To dry burn or not to dry burn. That's the question. It always gets me confused.

[danny4x4]

Newbie to vaping. 1 month off analogs. Using ego batteries with ce4 and ce5 clearomizers. Serial vaper, I drag about 3 seconds, inhale and exhale while still holding the button and drag again, inhale and exhale, and drag again. (Just can't break the analog style of my smoking. )

It seems the clearomizers are not giving me the taste or throat hit after about a tank. Tastes funky too. Wicks look gunky. Changed a new clearomizer, instant throat hit. (Using the juice I drew out from the first clearomizer). So it can't be the juice that's causing it. I've even tried 100pg/0vg and the same thing happens, although the wicks don't look gunky.

I've tried cleaning the clearomizers with
1) hot water only
2) hot water, dry burn, and hot water rinse again.
3) hot water, soak in vinegar to supposedly dissolve the gunk, and hot water again to get rid of the vinegar.
4) steam.

It seems to me that there doesn't seem to be any difference, whichever method I use, it still tastes funky after 1 tank. I've read conflicting opinions on whether I should dry burn ce4,ce5. Your opinions? Reduce, reuse, recycle. So, I hope to prolong the life span of the clearomizers. Or maybe I'm just a cheapo.

In short, 7 clearos in a month (still rotating them around although they taste funky). Natural or unnatural? vaping about 6ml per day.

By the way, please give suggestions on China vendors only. In this FINE city I live in, anything that resembles a cigarette, but is not a cigarette, is illegal. So, it's easier to get my wares from China suppliers/vendors.

Thousands thanks!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi and welcome to ECF. If you really are in "London, England" there's no problem with Ecigs....
I've tried cleaning the clearomizers with
1) hot water only
Good
2) hot water, dry burn, and hot water rinse again.
Good
3) hot water, soak in vinegar to supposedly dissolve the gunk, and hot water again to get rid of the vinegar.
Not Good- vinegar is acidic and will get into the plastic.
4) steam.
Have never done it.

Some juices will permeate the plastic more than others- acidic juices will destroy a clearo.
I generally wash my tanks+ heads in water but for strong juices I soak in PGA or Vodka overnite. Washing will clean the tank while dry burn cleans the gunk form the coil. Switched from clearo to Vision brand Vivi Novas and haven't looked back. Some vapers do report a plastic taste from clearos and Vivis. Are you drinking lots of water?

 

[Kycap]

I live 100 miles away from you and i did not know ecigs were illegal down there, we must live in a divided country that i knew nothing about..... or maybe Boris has outlawed them inside the M25.

You had better move to the Midlands.

 

[danny4x4]

Sorry, but my location is actually not what is stated on my profile. I'm sorry if it's against forum rules, but I'm .... about these kind of things. You never know whether someone is watching. But in this FINE city I live in, you never know. (Hint) Sorry if I've offended anyone.

Yes, I drink lots of water. I understand that taste may be affected by not drinking enough water. Maybe, I'm still not drinking enough? Because by evening, vaping doesn't seem to give me that ooomph. Lack of taste and throat hit. I thought it might be the clearomizers because all 5 or 6 of them would taste funky. Throughout the day, I would take a couple of puffs from one and immediately switch to another one and puff on it. This is to enable the wicks to wick up the juice.

Aren't Vivi Novas clearos too??? Cause I'm getting confused with all the names thrown about. As I understand it. Phoenix, Stardust, Vivis are all clearos, right? Sorry if it seems a stupiak (another hint to where I'm from) question.

I understand that what works for one person, may not work for another. I'm willing to try different setups to find what suits me. But it must use ego batteries/threads cause it's the easiest to find/buy. :-$

Would be wonderful if you would all share your best vape with ego setup from China vendors. Hope I'm not asking too much.

A million thanks this time!

 

[chimsweep]

Welcome Dan, don't feel alone in all the Greek talk, I didn't think I would ever get it....which I haven't except for a little knowledge.....and we all know that's a dangerous thing. I received the Ego C kit and have not lit up a stinkie since. This kit was made up.....simple thank God......2 1000mah batteries, two Ego rebuildable atomizers, and 5 Ego tanks. I hear no one talk about this simple design (fill and vape, fill and vape, fill and vape..) I knew this had to be an entry level design and after reading and reading about clearo, cartomizers, cartotanks, etc.......I knew I had hit paradise in my mind....My wife got into vaping and now we needed some more stuff!!!! I got 2 Vision Spinners, 2 Kanger MT3's, Smoktech UDCT tank........oh and I also threw in 5 more of the Ego tanks. It's only been a couple days, but thank the heavens I bought more of tanks and atomizers. Simple design, reliability......can't say enough compared to the new fangled equipment. I know I may change my mind after more experimentation.but not now!!! Cheap, lots of consistent vape, and mostly...simple for the simple minded.

 

[Dontae92]

For me dry burning only seems to cause the funky taste. I've had clearomizers that were fine but I decided it was time to clean them out after about a week of use. Rinsing and then dry burning. Now I had a burnt taste. After 4 heads that began to taste bad, I decided to just stick with Cartomizers in tank as they last longer for me.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Sorry, but my location is actually not what is stated on my profile. I'm sorry if it's against forum rules, but I'm .... about these kind of things. You never know whether someone is watching. But in this FINE city I live in, you never know. (Hint) Sorry if I've offended anyone.

No offense taken and I can kinda guess where you're located. Nope you're not breaking any rules and it's all good.

Yes, I drink lots of water. I understand that taste may be affected by not drinking enough water. Maybe, I'm still not drinking enough? Because by evening, vaping doesn't seem to give me that ooomph. Lack of taste and throat hit.

I drink 2+ liters water per day with only 3 cups java.
Realize vaping is extremely dehydrating. The PG and VG are hygroscopic and trap the moisture in our throats, mouth and nasal area and thus the vapor. Add to that more than 3 cups java or caffeine drinks per day and you're looking at serious dehydration.

Aren't Vivi Novas clearos too??? Cause I'm getting confused with all the names thrown about. As I understand it. Phoenix, Stardust, Vivis are all clearos, right? Sorry if it seems a stupiak (another hint to where I'm from) question.

ce4 and ce5 clearomizers= Stardust which I've used.
Vision Mini Vivi Nova 2.0 ml I LOVE- you can also buy metal sleeves to replace the plastic tank. Heads are cheap ($2.00) and easy (10 secs) to replace.

I understand that what works for one person, may not work for another. I'm willing to try different setups to find what suits me. But it must use ego batteries/threads cause it's the easiest to find/buy. :-$

Back in a minute with some ideas.

Edit: Vivi heads are lasting 10+ weeks.

 

[DavidOck]

I've never had good luck dry burning a wick. Either the wick itself chars, or the silicon cap does.

That said, I clean them under hot running water, after full dis-assembly, and pat the wick dry. When fully gunked, I replace the coil, and it's like new.

Yes, Vivi's are clearomizers, just a different style.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Silica Wicks have a temperature resistance of 1600°C so it's impossible to char and/ or burn. I always remove the silicon cap when dry burning.

With cleaning a clearo or Vivi it's VERY important to remove the gunked up juice in the coil area- if washing with hot tap water doesn't work then the next step is soaking in PGA or vodka. After washing/ soaking the only residue left should be on the coil and not the wick.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

I've never had good luck dry burning a wick. Either the wick itself chars, or the silicon cap does.

hI David, not sure what you got, but the "cap" over most top coil clearomizers needs to be removed before dry burn.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Would be wonderful if you would all share your best vape with ego setup from China vendors. Hope I'm not asking too much.

A million thanks this time!

Hi danny, I agree with vapoor eyes ; most of us have very good luck cleaning and dry burning. Its just logical, if you think about it.
I would consider a Kanger T2 , also a top coil clearomizer but with more of a "hit" , which you may like. Good luck

 

[DavidOck]

Oh, yes, it comes off for cleaning and inspection. When I'm not using tanks, or cartos, or Nanos, it's various Stardust style clearos.

For me, it's not an issue. I run the same juice in a clearo until it doesn't vape right, then pop in a new coil. Of course, they may have come apart for cleaning a couple times before that, too.

 

[Horselady154]

Here's my advice.

Dump the plastic tanks and go with something that has a glass tank.

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

ok here we go again..I posted this in another thread but looks like it belongs here as well
ok here is my opinion...

Dry burning a wick does not apply to silica wicks period...think about it..its a term used when talking about stainless steel wick and coils...
people have heard the term and have tried to apply it to silica wick systems and all they are doing is fouling their wicks...logic says if you fire your coil hot enough to"clean by heat" the cooked junk off ...you will singe the insulator or filler material....once the insulator or filler is singed you can not remove that taste from it it is done ...its now trash.
let me clarify...just because you have done it with no ill affects does not mean it works.. consider your self lucky...

here is some logic...if A = B and B = C then A = C right...ok if your coil burns when there is no juice on it... and dry burning is burning it when there is no juice on it... then dry burning burns it...just that simple folks.

ALSO...if its burnt Vodka wont help it....washing it wont help it...getting a priest to preform an exorcism and send the burnt taste to hell wont help it its trash throw it away and put in a new one.

I do rinse off my Nova coils when I change flavors and towel dry them with a tissue and they are a bit weak when they first get going but they do start wicking and get back to normal very quick.

I dont mean to offend anyone but I hear about people dry burning their silica wicks and i ....its not for silica its for SSmesh wicks that are not easily removed and a true dry burn will burn off all the residue from ss mesh and you will have to re season the top of your wick afterward...i did one today

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

Silica Wicks have a temperature resistance of 1600°C so it's impossible to char and/ or burn. I always remove the silicon cap when dry burning.

With cleaning a clearo or Vivi it's VERY important to remove the gunked up juice in the coil area- if washing with hot tap water doesn't work then the next step is soaking in PGA or vodka. After washing/ soaking the only residue left should be on the coil and not the wick.

Really ?? I have burned plenty of silica material with a fixed 3.2 batt...I guess it depends on what type of silica wick you are using...the wick material in a Vision clearomiser must be some of the cheapest or not 100% silica...I have burned em so bad the wicks fall off...

also in some cases the bad "burnt taste" people are talking about is the insulator material...not necessarily the wick itself...or filler material in a carto...

 

[rexet]

I just cleaned for the first time a Kanger T2 and did a dry burn. For the moment I don't have any burn taste but flavours are not as strong as before. Maybe still vaping the rest of water stuck in the wick?

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

If all you do is "pulse a few short times" you are likely to not burn your wick and or insulator...but also you are not doing anything for your coil either...a few short pulses...is not dry burning...when I dry burn my RBA's...I light the coil up and the wick turns red hot and makes everything on it turn to ash...then i blow the ash off and re season the wick and im good to go...

A few short pulses will not burn off anything that has gotten stuck on your coil from being vaped..it would take longer pulses and to actually get the coil hotter that it got when the deposit formed...thats where the danger of burnt taste happens...

I am not trying to offend anyone who suggests this is good to do...we all got to learn stuff our own way and if you think it works then great...I am just trying to shed a little logic on why it doesn't work at least not for me or a few other peeps that have posted that burnt taste happened after they dry burned their silica ....they heard it hear and tried it.

 

[Horselady154]

Really ?? I have burned plenty of silica material with a fixed 3.2 batt...I guess it depends on what type of silica wick you are using...the wick material in a Vision clearomiser must be some of the cheapest or not 100% silica...I have burned em so bad the wicks fall off...

also in some cases the bad "burnt taste" people are talking about is the insulator material...not necessarily the wick itself...or filler material in a carto...

ROFL. Yeah, I agree. I've burned more than a few myself. The wicks can and will char.

 

[Lessifer]

This has just been my experience but a "dry burn" on silica wicks can help, but from what I've seen it's different than when you do it on an SS mesh wick. When I do mine I do short pulses until I get the coil red hot, which does burn the gunk off the coil, but I only let it go red for about 1 second, and do multiple pulses. The whole process takes about 5 minutes with a rinsed out wick(with water). If you let the coil go red hot for too long it will char the wick, and then the wick is useless. So perhaps it's just a semantics thing?

 

[Clearo-Mizer]

This has just been my experience but a "dry burn" on silica wicks can help, but from what I've seen it's different than when you do it on an SS mesh wick. When I do mine I do short pulses until I get the coil red hot, which does burn the gunk off the coil, but I only let it go red for about 1 second, and do multiple pulses. The whole process takes about 5 minutes with a rinsed out wick(with water). If you let the coil go red hot for too long it will char the wick, and then the wick is useless. So perhaps it's just a semantics thing?

could be semantics...

when I first started vaping..i tried the dry burn and ruined quite a few coils ...just like you said ...a few seconds coil got red 2-3 times
then a veteran told me what i soon learned to be true for me...the small pulses were not actually doing anything but putting my coils at risk.. and he challenged me to a test...I used a vivi nova coil for 2 weeks solid a 1.8 ohm...did a rinse off clean then dry burned like i usually do and with reading glasses i watched the coil the few short pulses did nothing to the junk on the coil...then i held the pulse a little longer and still the junk did not release from the coil wire... so i rinsed it again and some of it came off in the water I had successfully dry burned it untill it cleaned the junk off...BUT the insulator had turned brown and flavor was lost to terrible burnt taste..

I would encourage anyone who wants to see it in action...look at the wire in the coil with reading glasses or even a magnifying glass prior to pulsing it and then after and see if anything is changing..it could be semantics...or could be suggestion..we all learn to do things wrong sometimes..its ok especially in a hobby like vaping where so much information is being flung about and opinion sometimes over rides logic
everyone has their opinion and their right to it.
and i am sure everyone wants to achieve the best vape they can.

2 questions
1 ever burn a coil? ( answer "yes")
2 how did you burn it? ( answer "I let it get dry")

I guess you could answer "because i put to much wattage through it" as well

thats all that should be said about dry burning silica.