To RBA or Not to RBA - Please convince me

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For the price of most items we buy, you can get an AGA and an AGI. I just got into dripping with that. So killer man! 1.5 ohm with ribbon wire!
Same on the AGA, but I get about 1.8. Once I get mesh ox'd good, I leave it! Oh, but when the MECH mod comes in, I'm goin' low!

Yo stat, I like the non twisted yet doubled kanthal. Get better surface area than a braid/twist that way. Good stuff!
 
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Just built my third coil for my aga t plus. Twisted 32 kanthal wire. Using evic. Maxed out at 11 watts 5 volts. Not sure how but I have it working at 1 ohm, Which I heard was impossible. Takes the full 10 seconds to get a good puff, but all in all not bad for my third coil. Definitely cheaper to rebuild this thing. I love tinkering so this tank is great for me
 

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Do you have bad heat sink?

Yeah a little. It's not too terrible but I suspect it may be cooking my juice a bit. Next on the list is gonna be some xc-16.

Yo stat, I like the non twisted yet doubled kanthal. Get better surface area than a braid/twist that way. Good stuff!

Loving this coil, it heats so fast.
 

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Hi Diet Salem,
Dripping is for Dummies [Just Joking kinda]
Bottom Feeding gives you the same experience as dripping just easier.

Diet, It's great you found your sweet spot.
I've tried the HH357 and wasn't that impressed.

I wish you were local I'd let you try my:
VV Bogger Box
4 wraps of 28g Kanthal around a 1/8" Porous Ceramic Wick on a Reomizer
Resistance .8 at 4.2V

No stock atomizer in the world can match this.
You might re-evaluate the HH-357.

I severely doubt that. I've tried countless upon countless RBAs - each one of my friends swearing by them. The performance is exactly on par with an HH357 (only being fair, realistically, most were out performed by the HH357) but with much, much more hassle.

Its funny someone would mention money as a reason not to go into RBAs, whereas one of the main benefits of using RBAs is that it is so cheap...
RBAs are a lot more expensive than dripping if you do good atomizers. It's cheaper than cartos though, I'll give you that.
 

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Hm... Dont suppose you wanna be a pal and send me a piece to try in my AGA? :D i have xc-116 in hand and can let you know how it works.

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I'll send you some but the more I use it the less impressed I am. I'll be going back to mesh tonight, for a couple days at least, to see if the flavor is better with mesh or if that's just in my head. Can't really put my finger on it but there is something about mesh that I prefer over this SS wick.

Gonna go ahead and order some xc-116 today also, it's time :p
 

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I REALLY want to read/watch/hear as UN-biased review as possible of the taste and wicking differences between xc-116 and good ol fashioned silica of the *same* thickness in the same atty at the same resistance. In other words, a side by side comparison. I understand why xc-116 is being touted right now, besides being "the new thing", so I'm not interested in why it's better than silica, but rather DOES it improve flavor and wicking and if so... how much?
 

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I REALLY want to read/watch/hear as UN-biased review as possible of the taste and wicking differences between xc-116 and good ol fashioned silica of the *same* thickness in the same atty at the same resistance. In other words, a side by side comparison. I understand why xc-116 is being touted right now, besides being "the new thing", so I'm not interested in why it's better than silica, but rather DOES it improve flavor and wicking and if so... how much?

I have 2 AGA-T2's and an AGI coming from a co-op. If it hasn't ben done by the time I get them I'll do a side by side with the two AGA-T2's with everything identical except the wick material.
 

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I have 2 AGA-T2's and an AGI coming from a co-op. If it hasn't ben done by the time I get them I'll do a side by side with the two AGA-T2's with everything identical except the wick material.

Thanks! If I had some myself I'd try it in a pair of identical drippers... I have some cheap Phoenix clones that would be perfect and I could even do "blind" A-B tests with some of my vaping friends too. I wish a vendor would just sell me an inch or two to try it.
 

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Just built my third coil for my aga t plus. Twisted 32 kanthal wire. Using evic. Maxed out at 11 watts 5 volts. Not sure how but I have it working at 1 ohm, Which I heard was impossible. Takes the full 10 seconds to get a good puff, but all in all not bad for my third coil. Definitely cheaper to rebuild this thing. I love tinkering so this tank is great for me

That's because part of that story is wrong or untrue ;)

A 1 ohm coil at 11 watts is 3.3 volts, not 5.

5 volts and a 1 ohm coil is 25 watts, not 11.

5 volts and 11 watts means the atty is closer to 2.2 ohms, not 1.

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I severely doubt that. I've tried countless upon countless RBAs - each one of my friends swearing by them. The performance is exactly on par with an HH357 (only being fair, realistically, most were out performed by the HH357) but with much, much more hassle.


RBAs are a lot more expensive than dripping if you do good atomizers. It's cheaper than cartos though, I'll give you that.

I cant imagine a tank being more hassle than dripping. If you meant hassle to set up, thats really user error. I can have mine up and going in 3 mins.

And trying countless upon countless RBAs, each one of your friends swearing by them, makes no sense and completely misses the point of RBAs. It vapes as well as you set it up. If i can choose between a 3ml tank at under $30 total and a $22 dripping atty like hh 357, with same performance, my money is on the tank. People sacrifice the ease of use of tanks for the flavor, vapor and TH of a dripper. Im not gonna complainabout a tank with the flavor, vapor and TH of a dripper.

And by "good atty" i dont know whether youre talking about the RBA or the dripping atty. if you mean dripping, see above. If you mean RBA, i assume you mean the higher end RBAs for $100+ each. But as i said, money doesnt matter in the world of TBAs: it vapes as well as your build. Meaning the price of "using RBAs" to their full benefit is extremely low. Saying using RBAs is expensive because Steam Turbines and AC9 cost a lot is like saying driving is expensive because a Rolls Royce is.
 

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Well, until your ceramic comes in guys, try a hybrid wick! I took a piece of 3mm silica and rolled it into a piece of #500 SS, with about an inch of silica sticking out into the tank, from the bottom of the mesh. So awesome!!

Oh, it's on an aga-t+ with ribbon kanthal, 1.6 ohms on a VAMO.
Le yummy. Green Peach Tea...so good!
 

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Well, until your ceramic comes in guys, try a hybrid wick! I took a piece of 3mm silica and rolled it into a piece of #500 SS, with about an inch of silica sticking out into the tank, from the bottom of the mesh. So awesome!!

Oh, it's on an aga-t+ with ribbon kanthal, 1.6 ohms on a VAMO.
Le yummy. Green Peach Tea...so good!

I have tried that with no success; my silica is too loose inside my mesh. But this reminds me i may try it again.

Shout out to Stat for being an awesome guy and actually sending me pre-cut, pre-torched steel rope wicks to try out. I have no cutting tools at my disposal and the curiousity was killing me.
 

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Alright... I am rethinking my stance on RDA's... lol

I'd still recommend a beginner go ahead and get an RBA and an RDA to start with just to have both types to learn and play with

What I said earlier about not really liking drippers.. I guess I hadn't given it a fair shot yet. I've left my AGA at home the last day and a half and taken my IGO-L to work with me.. and I am DIGGING IT :D

Wrapped a 32g double coil right at 1ohm.. gaining a new respect for rebuildable drippers
 

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I have tried that with no success; my silica is too loose inside my mesh. But this reminds me i may try it again.
As small as even a drilled out hole on an RBA is, you must have been using WAY too little silica! Take a nice, fat piece of 3mm, or a few pieces of 2mm. Line it up with the inside edge of the mesh before you start to roll it. Now, roll it as tight as the silica is wide. Here comes the fun part...ox. and coil that beast with that tension kept and the silica undisturbed. Once pulled off, it is comprised of two of the best heat-tolerant wick materials!
 

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As small as even a drilled out hole on an RBA is, you must have been using WAY too little silica! Take a nice, fat piece of 3mm, or a few pieces of 2mm. Line it up with the inside edge of the mesh before you start to roll it. Now, roll it as tight as the silica is wide. Here comes the fun part...ox. and coil that beast with that tension kept and the silica undisturbed. Once pulled off, it is comprised of two of the best heat-tolerant wick materials!

What size is the piece of mesh you're using? Just big enough to wrap the coil onto or does it stick down into the tank at all?

I'm imagining about a 3/8" piece to wrap the coil on, and it doesn't even touch the upper deck at all...
 
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