"Tobacco companies use corporate social responsibility for political purposes"

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Tobacco companies use corporate social responsibility for political purposes
Katharine Barker, University of Bath, UK, August 25th.


The author describes how:

"Corporations may use corporate social responsibility programmes not only to improve their public image, but also to gain access to politicians, influence agendas, and shape public health policy to best suit their own interests.
In a research article led by Gary Fooks from the University of Bath's tobacco Control Research Group in the UK and published in this week's PLoS Medicine, these programmes are revealed as "an innovative form of corporate political activity".

"The authors document the persistent efforts of British American tobacco ........... to re-establish access with the UK Department of Health, following the Government's decision to restrict contact with major tobacco companies."

This appears to be some form of criticism of the tobacco industry, but this form of 'lobbying' is normal practice in many industries, especially the pharmaceutical industry, who are the world leaders in this field. It is hardly 'innovative' - indeed it is the standard modus operandi of the pharma industry. The piece ends with:

The authors say: "our case study underlines the value of understanding BAT's [corporate social responsibility programme] as an innovative form of corporate political activity. This approach to conceptualising [corporate social responsibility] has potentially important implications for public health given the widely documented impact of tobacco companies' political activity in delaying and blocking health related policies."
They continue: "More generally, it is likely to be relevant to understanding the impact of [corporate social responsibility] in other industrial sectors, such as alcohol and food, where corporate social responsibility also seems to have been used to shape government policy."
The authors add: "we suggest that our findings—and the absence of strong evidence suggesting that co-regulation is capable of aligning the business models of big food and drinks companies with the demands of public health—suggest that the role of corporate social responsibility in the [UK Government's Public Health Responsibility] Deal needs to be subjected to closer scrutiny."

This commentary is hilarious considering the way the pharmaceutical industry has perverted the course of legislation and practice in the health industry by manipulation, astroturfing and pressure carried out by the fake public health groups it runs. In fact many would say the entire climate of the health industry has been utterly corrupted by this practice. As regards the practice being 'innovative', this is clearly an outright lie if made by those aware that this is a core feature of the pharma industry operation.

And what's the betting that the report is authored by people connected in some way with pharma funding? In which case this is yet another example of the poison these people put out. How about The Giant Hypocrisy Award for 2011?

Hardly anyone has any sympathy for Big Tobacco these days but when they are attacked by the world's biggest political poisoners, it's hard not to feel sympathetic.

So let's look at the USA national score for last year in our own area: the pharma vs consumer harm reduction quit-cigs contest -

NRTs
Chantix: 60,000+ heart attacks, dozens of suicides, and the odd murder or two. Successful smoking quitters: under 10% - although that's probably optimistic.
Other NRTs: a magnificent success rate of somewhere between 2% to 7%. But at least they probably didn't kill anyone.
Total success numbers for all NRT types in 2011: a few thousand maybe (way under 10% of attempters, whatever way you look at it).

Consumer harm reduction
Snus and e-cigarettes: 2 million+ off smoking, and no deaths reported.

Some contest. So keep up the astroturfing and lies, pharma, it's the only thing you're any good at.
 

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Yes, BP pretty well owns the book on such endeavors. They control WHO, the health departments, the ?non-profit?"health" associations, the media and the government. You really can't get much more involved in the corporate social responsibility programme an that, can you? Wait, are they on facebook yet?
 

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My niece used Chantix to quit smoking. I tried to get her to switch to e-cigs, but she didn't stay with the e-cig, she thought that Chantix would work for her. A couple of weeks later, she was back to smoking cigarettes. :facepalm:

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. :(

BP is a few hundred dollars richer, thanks to my niece.
 
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"BP is a few hundred dollars richer, thanks to my niece."

In addition, she remains a future potential customer for the next, greatest drug to treat the number one cause of preventable disease in the country. Their's no refuting that evidence.

Why would they develop a drug to treat the cause of preventable diseases when they can get funding from tobacco taxes and settlements to develop treatments for chronic diseases caused by smoking until they "graduate" to chemo and radiation? :blink:

Compared to $3+/pack in tax and MSA payoffs and more than $1,000/yr to treat COPD and $5,000/yr to treat lung cancer, Smoking Cessation medications are what is known in the marketing industry as a "Loss Leader". :glare:
 

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Great post Rolygate, it's been going on for years and years though, the big question is how to stop this from going on. Would it not be prudent for a group to start an Anti Big Pharma news agency or non profit that would report every move Big Pharma makes and report these kind of numbers you posted and there business practices worldwide.?

There has to be a way of forming a Non profit type of company that would watch Big Pharma's every move, as well as our politicians. Getting funding and donations could be kind of tough though and all the politicians would probably freak out along with big Pharma but still, to post there business doings 24/7/365 would be terrific. How they go about things like getting approvals, especially of a drug like Chantex and just posting these types of business practices in major news papers and news forecast would be super as well as having a closer eye on them in General would be great.

Big Pharma's marketing and commercials are really getting bad, especially the Chantex commercials, who the heck would ever want to take this drug when they hear the potential side effects. These big guns need to be put away one way or another and stopped it's just getting out of hand with there power and money making ways they put into place and how they get there is all bought by lobbying and payoffs. The I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine later isn't a good thing at all when it comes to Big Pharma and politics but how does it get stopped is a big question.
 

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Chantix has been mentioned recently as the most dangerous prescription drug there is. It is reported to cause a heart attack in one in thirty patients - apart from the suicides and murders - meaning that it is therefore responsible for more than 60,000 heart attacks in the US last year.

Funnily enough, there is also a decent profit in medications to treat heart problems...

The entire situation is lunacy to the nth degree but that's what turns the wheels, people. Do we really think our governments are less corrupt than those of Pakistan or Nigeria?

Dream on! :)
 
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If you have the time, watch this video:
Watch Video: Making a Killing

BTW, Chantix is a psychotropic drug. If you don't think so, read the following from Wikipedia's Chantix article:

Depression and suicide

In November 2007, the FDA announced it had received post-marketing reports that patients using varenicline for smoking cessation had experienced several serious symptoms, including suicidal ideation and occasional suicidal behavior, erratic behavior, and drowsiness. On February 1, 2008 the FDA issued an alert to further clarify its findings, noting that "it appears increasingly likely that there is an association between Chantix and serious neuropsychiatric symptoms." It is unknown whether the psychiatric symptoms are related to the drug or to nicotine withdrawal symptoms, although not all patients had stopped smoking. The FDA also recommended that health care professionals and patients watch for behavioral and mood changes.[13] In May 2008, Pfizer updated the safety information associated with varenicline, noting that "some patients have reported changes in behavior, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions." [14]

As of July 1, 2009, the US Food and Drug Administration requires Chantix (varenicline) to carry a black box warning, the agency's strongest safety warning, due to public reports of side effects including depression, suicidal thoughts, and suicidal actions.[15]


Black Box Warnings are mainly for psychotropic drugs.
 
Woah! Did I read this right?

BTW, Chantix is a psychotropic drug. If you don't think so, read the following from Wikipedia's Chantix article:

Depression and suicide

In November 2007, the FDA announced it had received post-marketing reports that patients using varenicline for smoking cessation had experienced several serious symptoms, including suicidal ideation and occasional suicidal behavior, erratic behavior, and drowsiness. On February 1, 2008 the FDA issued an alert to further clarify its findings, noting that "it appears increasingly likely that there is an association between Chantix and serious neuropsychiatric symptoms." It is unknown whether the psychiatric symptoms are related to the drug or to nicotine withdrawal symptoms, although not all patients had stopped smoking. The FDA also recommended that health care professionals and patients watch for behavioral and mood changes.[13] In May 2008, Pfizer updated the safety information associated with varenicline, noting that "some patients have reported changes in behavior, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions." [14]

As of July 1, 2009, the US Food and Drug Administration requires Chantix (varenicline) to carry a black box warning, the agency's strongest safety warning, due to public reports of side effects including depression, suicidal thoughts, and suicidal actions.[15]


Black Box Warnings are mainly for psychotropic drugs.

If "some of the patients had not stopped smoking" but still had psychiatric symptoms and if some of the patients did not have any previous history of these symptoms, how much doubt can there be that these Deadly. Serious. Pyschological risks are either "side effects" or...worse yet, simply Varenicline working as intended?! Nicotine withdrawal my ASH. :blink:
 

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Woah! Did I read this right?



If "some of the patients had not stopped smoking" but still had psychiatric symptoms and if some of the patients did not have any previous history of these symptoms, how much doubt can there be that these Deadly. Serious. Pyschological risks are either "side effects" or...worse yet, simply Varenicline working as intended?! Nicotine withdrawal my ASH. :blink:

Exactly. Watch this video, it talks about "side" effects:

Chapter 7: "Side" effects
 

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This is from Wikipedia. The full text can be found here:
Varenicline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Varenicline received a "priority review" by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in February 2006, shortening the usual 10-month review period to 6 months because of its demonstrated effectiveness in clinical trials and perceived lack of safety issues."

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Exactly. Watch this video, it talks about "side" effects:

Chapter 7: "Side" effects

That is truly quite horrifying. It is the proverbial 2 ton gorilla in the room that is so horrifying, our brains refuse to accept it is there. Instead, we engage cognitive dissonance and somehow fail to be appalled at the mention of side effects like "suicidal thoughts and ideations".

How is it that we have become so brainwashed/corrupted by our own system that we fail to notice that people are suffering and dying but instead of doing something about it there are actually human beings who would say that smokers somehow deserve this fate for being addicted to "nicodemon" and the murdered spouses and children are just collateral damage of the "sins" of people who are smart enough to quit but too "weak" to do it without the "help" of psychotropic drugs.

Honestly, the sad reality of this situation makes me ill. :cry:

The only thing keeping me from being in favor of a complete ban on Varenicline is the fact that most people that I've talked to have said that their side effects were mild enough to justify its availability IF it can be shown that Chantix truly helps more people than it hurts...but with clinical success rates under 50%, I tend to doubt it. :glare:
 
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