Tobacco flavors (RY4) = Cigar tobacco

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Quexos

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I have tried FreedomSmokeUSA's RY4 and the sample of Wyatt Earp and here are my observances.

Wyatt Earp: tastes like a cigar straight up. I did not like it. I do not like cigars. If you like cigars, I would imagine you would love it.

RY4: tastes like a cigar version of RY4. The overall flavor is on the weak side and the tobacco is very much the dominant flavor and very much cigar, not cigarette. I do not like cigars! Now for the blasphemy. I mixed this 50/50 with Dekang's RY4 to reduce the cigar taste of the FSUSA RY4 and reduce the "chemical" taste of the Dekang and it is good. Not great, but perfectly vapable.

In short, it seems FSUSA uses a cigar base which I don't care for, but otherwise the juice is excellent. The problem is I am after a good RY4 and this cigar stuff is not it. The underlying flavor of the RY4 tastes more like honey than caramel, possibly due to mingling with the cigar tobacco flavor? Sadly this means my search for my RY4 supplier continues though FSUSA seems to be a very good supplier otherwise.
 

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Here is where tastes vary I guess.

Wyatt Earp: I pretty much agree with you on this. It also reminds me of pipe tobacco more so then the cigars.

RY4: So completely different. Even if I agree or disagree on the flavor. Weak is anything but what I get, I wonder if it is the same RY4. Or possibly if this is because we are using different voltages or nic strength. This is a powerful flavor to me. I don't think it tastes of cigars, or at least none I have tasted. Although I must admit I only smoke really good cigars. Thats only because I never buy them, my rich friends do. I have never tried those flavored cigars you buy at corner stores, so maybe it could taste like them. I get some sort of taste that I can only akin to the way flavored coffee smells. I realize I just equated taste to smell, but that's the only way I can describe it. I recently tried it in a new 6volt mod I got and whew that stuff kicks...

I also dislike a few flavors other people seem to love..Rath waffle makes me hurl.. so clearly tastes vary..

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Have you allowed some time for the flavors to mature? IMHO, the RY4 is anything but weak when it comes to flavor. Taste is variable of course....but personally, I don't really get the cigar notes from both the RY4 and Wyatt Earp. There is a strong tobacco note but its quite different from a cigar.

Having said that, we all have personal taste preferences :)
For some reason, Dekang RY4 always reminds me of stale beer mixed with burnt caramel!
 

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Odd how much tastes vary. With the FSUSA RY4, I taste almost pure caramel, with a little bit of vanilla aftertaste. I can detect a hint of tobacco, but I don't think I would if others had not told me RY4 was a tobacco flavor. I let a friend try it, and he swears it tastes exactly like cotton candy.

I can't wait to try it after it steeps though.
 

Quexos

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That is funny how some people taste one thing and others something totally different. I can't imagine how someone could taste this and not say they taste cigar. I could not tell you the type of cigar I taste, just that taste that lets you know it is a cigar...I taste that. Like the way you know coffee is coffee, weather it has creme or not, etc. Don't get me wrong, the RY4 was perfectly usable, good even, just not quite what I had hoped for.

I tried it at 3.7v (Ego and home made 14500 box mod) and 5v on a MadVapes passthrough and 2.1a power supply. 5 volt gives it a bit more flavor, but it's still very...mild, with almost all the flavor on the exhale and nothing on the draw or inhale. No throat hit to speak of.

I've had it for about a week now, so it should be steeped...didn't ever change noticeably. It has very little flavor so I feel like I have to draw extra long and hard to get anything from it. After mixing with Dekang, it is stronger, but of course, makes the Dekang weaker too. It is also very dark! I have never seen dark RY4 before. All the others I tried were golden or very light brown. This is thick, heavy, dark brown like some of the coffee flavors I've seen.

For some reason, Dekang RY4 always reminds me of stale beer mixed with burnt caramel!

HAHAHAHA. Spot on description. Yep. I was describing it as good RY4, mixed with Bug Spray, but I think yours is more accurate.
 
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TexasT

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LOL! Six posts and we all seem to have different opinions...tastebuds were definitely not created equal. My daughter often makes the cotton candy remark, though, when I'm vaping RY4 or 5. I don't get it but guess my smeller still ain't up to par yet.

LOL, your right Free. To my tender taste buds Wyatt Earp is a mild, little bit sweet mix that doesn't taste anything like tobacco. I agree with Godzilla on the "slightly sweet caramel finish, and a very earthy background." In addition I seem to detect a slight bourbon taste and a tiny hint of chocolate with maybe some mint.

I just loaded some into a fresh carto and its dated 8/21 just to make sure what I'm saying is correct. I guess I should have been a wine tasting person. I think I would have been good at it! But I really like Wyatt Earp and its frequently my "all day vape."
 

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Here is where tastes vary I guess.

Wyatt Earp: I pretty much agree with you on this. It also reminds me of pipe tobacco more so then the cigars.

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+1 for me too. More pipe than cigar. I assumed that Wyatt Earp is supposed to be similar to the flavorings in Marlboro type cigs.... I think FSUSA has a max-boro something or other too. Hmmm.... They (the cigs) have a mixture of flavors that include a portion of pipe-tobacco flavors. Not cigar-like to me. Marlboro cigs were a little "woody" in flavor to me, if I remember correctly. Note that the "Reds" had a very different flavor than the lights too. I think that the "reds" smokers might relate to it more than light smokers.

If you think about it, I wonder if gunslingers usually smoked cigars anyway...who knows. lol

But the differences/distinctions... well, I suppose that depends on what pipe tobacco and what cigar tobacco we are discussing. I liked the Wyatt Earp. No e-juice tastes like a cig to me though. The e-juice tobacco flavors have some common ground with tobacco cig flavors, however.
 
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My mom really loved the Wyatt Earp, she said it reminded her of like a bourbon pipe tobacco with cigar hints in it.

I personally don't enjoy tobacco vapes anymore, but hey if you do good times haha. From the smell it came off as a pipe/cigar so I would imagine if you don't like them it wouldnt be for you.
 
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