Tobacco shop goes E

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TropicalBob

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He and I both settled on the idea of ONLY A TRUE DISPOSABLE. That's the way to find out if e-smoking is something an ex-smoker wants to sink a real investment in.

Try a Ruyan Jazz, move on to the more fussy refillable, rechargeable e-cigs. I gave him Web pages and phone numbers of several reliable suppliers and e-cigs he could stock (I never expect e-liquid to be stocked in any brick-and-mortar shop). He settled on the Jazz and is happy with sales now.
 

DisMan

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He wobbled one hand in a so-so motion. I asked what the problem was. He said some buyers complained that these didn't draw like a cigarette at all, and they wouldn't use them. He'd seen his share of unhappy buyers. Ooops.

Let the smokers enjoy their tax hikes every 1 - 2 years.

I challenge any smoker....use an e-cig for 2 weeks. Go back to smoking. Let me know how it feels, tastes, and smells.

Then we can talk about your supply for e-liquid and the various flavors for under $20.00/carton. ;)
 

calligal

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TB, I think you have started something many of us should consider foolowing up on.
I really liked my cigarette vendor and almost feel guilty for leaving him. (note: I did say almost.)

Is there a flyer we can agree upon to drop off at our old tobacco supplier?
One that lists this forum, other sites, and suppliers they should check out?

I don't have much experience with the vendors and am hesitant to suggest the wrong thing. I do believe the key to success in vaping is knowlege. What to expect and what one needs to know can make a difference.

Is there a link to Ruyan Jazz?
I would easlily have spent 25 dollars or more with my analog dealer to test vaping on a disposable before committing to something else, but having some documention included and website links would be advisable because a bad experience may turn someone off completely.
 

calligal

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Thanks UKUSA.

The thing is many of us tend to leave our pasts behind. I bought my standard 3 packs of Djarum before my personal vapor kit arrived. I use to stop by the store approximately twice a week and now have not been back since middle march. My vendor is a very nice person and tho I have chosen this path I like him enough to wish him the best.

Since joining this site one of my questions as been "How many have not only quit smoking analogs but also quit the e-cig? I suspect that most quitters woud not continue to come to this site but crudpuckets what do I know as this is only my eigth day analog free and I am still trying to get more e-liquid.
 

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I think a big reason for the turnaround in my tobacco shop guy's mood is the tax increase. There must be hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of cigarette smokers saying "I can't afford this addiction any more." They are looking for alternatives.

I've tried every alternative known to humankind, and I set my shop owner up with snus, dissolvables and the Ruyan Jazz before the tax hike hit. Now, he has a flyer about the Jazz on his front counter, and smokers read it, see the $25 price and don't freak out as they fork over $40 for a carton of cigs. The Jazz once seemed extremely expensive; that's no longer the case.

He still isn't stocking any other e-cigs, despite my advice. Like most such owners, he does not want returns and failures and unhappy customers. He's also aware of the legal issues swirling around liquids, devices, etc. Caution is reasonable.

This is funny, however: Every time I go in, he says loudly that Mr. E-Cigarette is here, that I know all the answers, so any smoker contemplating e-smoking can ask me anything. I usually end up demonstrating the Kissbox I mostly use.
 

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He still isn't stocking any other e-cigs, despite my advice. Like most such owners, he does not want returns and failures and unhappy customers.

I think he's right to go down the disposable line, the rate of failure with the various components and the time/cost suppliers must spend just dealing with replacements is frightening.

I know that the Ruyan Vegas exists - and is very highly regarded albeit expensive, but has he considered these e-cigars I wonder: they're much less expensive and pretty good IMHO: Electronic Cigarette Portal
They only work out an amazing US$7.30 each (plus shipping and any import taxes I suppose).
I didn't get the few I've got from this supplier (and the ones I got cost more like $20 each :() but I can tell from the packaging that they're the same and they really do last for ~1500 puffs.

Before I got the SD, I was considering just buying a bunch of these as my main at-home e-cigs.

[EDIT - I've just noticed your comment at the top of this thread about not buying from abroad so I guess you can just ignore this message!]
 
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I called the local tobacco shop here on a lark, and they ARE contemplating stocking the ecigs, probably the Njoy Ncigs. Apparently a lot of smokers have been curious and asking if he will sell them. Wonder if it's the smokers I've been vaping in front of at work... ;D Would be awesome if he would stock liquid, but I'm not holding my breath.
 

TropicalBob

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Any e-smoker who visits a tobacco shop should nicely ask the owner to introduce e-cigs. What is happening is that e-smoking is getting publicity, so smokers are becoming aware of this alternative, AT THE SAME TIME THEY'VE BEEN HIT WITH A HUGE PRICE INCREASE. They are looking to bail on cigarettes. This is the opportune moment to sell e-cigs.

With disposables, there's not a great investment that could be lost if/when these are subjected to a ban or regulations. I'd like to see tobacco shops across the country stocking e-cigs.
 
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He and I both settled on the idea of ONLY A TRUE DISPOSABLE. That's the way to find out if e-smoking is something an ex-smoker wants to sink a real investment in.

Try a Ruyan Jazz, move on to the more fussy refillable, rechargeable e-cigs. I gave him Web pages and phone numbers of several reliable suppliers and e-cigs he could stock (I never expect e-liquid to be stocked in any brick-and-mortar shop). He settled on the Jazz and is happy with sales now.

This is how I started. The Ruyan Jazz worked well for me. I was really impressed. I still have them but the taste does not even come close to some of the juices I have collected.

I would love to see tobacco shops carry refillable kits. It was the first logical place I looked before I realized I could not obtain them locally. But I understand not wanting to sell them because of the the tech issues. Even when all the components work properly it is still a bit of an art to obtain a reliable experience.

Lorddrek
 

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I am an entrepreneur and already own one business. I am just wondering why all of you are talking about local smoke shops? Why not sell these on your own? I have started reviewing these just last night. I am going to order a few of these. Whichever I find to be the best quality. Once I try it, I am going to stock up BIG time. Of course first get an idea of the demand, once this is done I plan on retiring shortly after. Anyone else though about just selling these yourself?
 

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A lot of us do, but some of us also want there to be enough exposure in the market to get a positive reaction out of the gubmint. And it'd really be nice to be able to run down to the local smoke shop if I screw up and run out of juice.

I answer only for myself, of course. I suspect a lot of people just don't want the hassle of running a business, no matter how small, and prefer to just vap in peace
 
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