Too young to vape??
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Meh I probably shouldn't have taken it personally. No worries. I am having trouble sleeping and woke up in the middle of the night again so I'm grumpy lol.
To answer OP question, I'm really torn on this one. I keep flipping back and forth on my opinion. All you can do is what you think is best.
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no worries. I'm a mid-night shift guy. so i'm at work, bored so i'm trollin on ECF. hopefully you can get back to sleep. Good luck.
Having raised three kids, I think I would recommend against it. You are setting yourself up for allot of trouble with the younger child, and teaching your older one that you can be coaxed into submission by enough kicking and whining. I think it would go bad for you one way or the other.
Its for adults, your daughter is not an adult yet. Yes, there are those that say she will just smoke, well, those are fairly expensive, and if she does, that`s on her.
There are scenarios you simply cant even imagine as a result of this, and none of them are good. I would implore to to stand firm, let her know it is so you can get off the stinkies, and do your best to explain to her that no matter what her friends tell her, there are allot better things to do with your time.
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R
Its for adults, your daughter is not an adult yet. Yes, there are those that say she will just smoke, well, those are fairly expensive, and if she does, that`s on her.
There are scenarios you simply cant even imagine as a result of this, and none of them are good. I would implore to to stand firm, let her know it is so you can get off the stinkies, and do your best to explain to her that no matter what her friends tell her, there are allot better things to do with your time.
Best regards,
R
If I could go back to the first day I smoked and nevr have started...I would surely do it and that would mean I also wouldn't be vaping today. No, you should not let your daughter vape, especially when she has never smoked...this isn't a toy this is a device to keep us from smoking.
As wld I. With that being said if vapin were around then wld I have done this instead of smoking to begin with?? Idk....
Only you know your daughter. There are "old" 16 year olds and there are "young" 16 year olds. Which one is she?
I find it strange that a number can make such a difference. At 17 years and 364 days you're still considered a child and yet, one day later, you're an adult. You don't suddenly mature overnight! lol There are some teenagers who are mature at 16, others who are still immature at 19...
I realise law makers have to set an arbitrary limit somewhere but judge the person, not the age.
I find it strange that a number can make such a difference. At 17 years and 364 days you're still considered a child and yet, one day later, you're an adult. You don't suddenly mature overnight! lol There are some teenagers who are mature at 16, others who are still immature at 19...
I realise law makers have to set an arbitrary limit somewhere but judge the person, not the age.
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Well I'd say in most aspects she's an old 16. She is very responsible. I agree the 17 and 364 days makes u a child 1 day later an adult. Concur completely
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Heck on most days. . . I refuse to act like an adult.
The bottom line is if at the end of the day, you can look at yourself in the mirror and say you did the best you could. . . you've fulfilled your responsibility as a parent. I cannot pick their path, but I can and will point them in the right direction.
The bottom line is if at the end of the day, you can look at yourself in the mirror and say you did the best you could. . . you've fulfilled your responsibility as a parent. I cannot pick their path, but I can and will point them in the right direction.
This above comment is how I feel too. My children are both adults with their own now. The teen years are such a power struggle of teaching them about following rules/laws. School rules, laws and house rules all must be followed or at least respected. The way I look at it is that it is a parents job to teach your child to be a responsible, productive and well balanced individual. If their training starts by saying, you are not of legal age yet, but I say you can, you will only be teaching them that rules only need to be followed if you agree with them. I totally understand your reasoning but there is still no guarantee that they will not pick up smoking cigs if they are allowed to vape. They are learning to make responsible choices for themselves right now. They may seem very mature but trust me, they do not have the capabilities to weigh long term effects of bad choices. Unfortunately that is why so many young people make choices that kill them. You as an adult can. I would never judge another parent for the choices they make for their own kids, parenting is hard enough without interference, but you asked for honest opinions. I would tell them that the most common reason for vaping is because the vaper is trying to turn around a very deadly habit they probably started when they were young too. That it is not a way to "fit in" or be part of the in crowd. Because you say 0nic this is how I see this. Your child wants to feel like part of the "cool" crowd. I get that. Teach them to be strong individuals instead and hope for the best. Unfortunately we cannot make choices for our teens but you can teach them to think for themselves. One more note...My daughter and I were talking about this very thing and she said that when she was a teen and faced with a choice of following her friends in doing something she knew to be "wrong", she always thought about what I would say about it and weighed that. Hahaha, then she added that it didn't always stop her but it always made her think. I was her "brakes" so to speak. I hope you can be a strong role model for your child/children and say I wish you wouldn't smoke, vape or do anything that could jeopardize your health but I love you always and am hear to listen without judgement to any of your concerns. Those words will be more powerful then you think.
My truly honest opinion? This is exactly why the FDA may end up taking our flavors away. Because she's 16 and wants to flavor vape and she'll be able to get the hardware to do it because you'll give it to her. It may be 0mg nic but I believe when I get the "it's because of the children!" canned responses from my state government after I beg for ecig leniency they're basing their slanted figures on how many kids are vaping, not how much nicotine they're vaping.
If that's the case it doesn't sound like she's at risk of smoking since she doesn't like it. Why then let her vape?
Maybe a conversation about peer pressure is in order if you feel she'll smoke just because her friends do even though she doesn't like it. Or maybe she's just threatening to smoke so you'll let her vape (kids do love pushing our buttons, don't they?) because it looks cool.
But as parents, we have to set limits. Kids under 18 want everything you have solely because they're not supposed to have it - Your beer, your porn, your car keys, the contents of the liquor cabinet, your cigarettes or, in your case, your vape. I was a teen once and I raised 2 teens since then. My mother told me not to smoke. I did it anyway. I raised my kids and told them not to smoke. Neither of them do. Your daughter is either going to be a smoker or she's not, plain and simple. If she was already a smoker my opinion about letting her vape would be much different. But she's not.
You asked for an honest opinion and that's mine. I very much hope you are not offended by it. It was in no way meant to offend, I promise. Raising teenagers is a hard job and not one I'd wish to do again
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The day my kids are making their own dough, is the day they're old enough to vape,smoke or whatever the hell they want to do. Until then, no vapes for them.
I vape to keep myself off cigarettes. Why would kids want to vape? Simply because of curiosity, cool factor, rebelliousness, etc. The exact same reasons why i got hooked on cigarettes in the first place.
But that's just my opinion. Ain't gonna criticise you if you decide otherwise. After all, there isn't a hard rule on how to go about it. All depends on the teenager in question. You'll know best.
I vape to keep myself off cigarettes. Why would kids want to vape? Simply because of curiosity, cool factor, rebelliousness, etc. The exact same reasons why i got hooked on cigarettes in the first place.
But that's just my opinion. Ain't gonna criticise you if you decide otherwise. After all, there isn't a hard rule on how to go about it. All depends on the teenager in question. You'll know best.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say... be the parent here. "put your foot down" as the saying goes. After all, she's only got a year and she'll be of legal age to vape. Just my 2c
Not offended at all. I asked for opinions. If ingot offended by wut u thought I shldnt have posted..... Thats how feel on that. So thank you for being honest.My truly honest opinion? This is exactly why the FDA may end up taking our flavors away. Because she's 16 and wants to flavor vape and she'll be able to get the hardware to do it because you'll give it to her. It may be 0mg nic but I believe when I get the "it's because of the children!" canned responses from my state government after I beg for ecig leniency they're basing their slanted figures on how many kids are vaping, not how much nicotine they're vaping.
If that's the case it doesn't sound like she's at risk of smoking since she doesn't like it. Why then let her vape?
Maybe a conversation about peer pressure is in order if you feel she'll smoke just because her friends do even though she doesn't like it. Or maybe she's just threatening to smoke so you'll let her vape (kids do love pushing our buttons, don't they?) because it looks cool.
But as parents, we have to set limits. Kids under 18 want everything you have solely because they're not supposed to have it - Your beer, your porn, your car keys, the contents of the liquor cabinet, your cigarettes or, in your case, your vape. I was a teen once and I raised 2 teens since then. My mother told me not to smoke. I did it anyway. I raised my kids and told them not to smoke. Neither of them do. Your daughter is either going to be a smoker or she's not, plain and simple. If she was already a smoker my opinion about letting her vape would be much different. But she's not.
You asked for an honest opinion and that's mine. I very much hope you are not offended by it. It was in no way meant to offend, I promise. Raising teenagers is a hard job and not one I'd wish to do again
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Actually, a vaporiser is a device designed (in this instance) to turn liquid into vapour, which, in turn, is inhaled by the user.
The fact that you or I may use it as a way to self-administer doses of nicotine is by-the-by.
We are (currently) dependent upon nicotine and have chosen to use this method to continue/regulate our dependence instead of doing so via the medium of smoking cigarettes or NRT.
That's not the only reason why people vape, nor will it ever be. It's just the reason why we do.
I disagree. One major aspect of our starting to smoke was because it gave us a buzz. And, let's be honest, that was fun! I don't believe you can get the same buzz from vaping nicotine because the rate of absorption is much slower. So if you can't/ don't get the same effect why would you start to use it?
That's like saying no-one should drink decaff coffee because it might lead you to drink caffeinated...
This is one of those subjects that can go either way. It has a lot of stigma on it that is "programmed" into our subconscious brains about "legal age", "unknown risks" and nosy people butting their ... noses into others peoples business when they have no right to. Only you, as a parent can make that decision.
I would make her pay for it but if you know your daughter like non of us could possibly know her, and you fully support your decision once it is made, knowing that in the long run it could possibly lead to her getting nic juice, going to analogs, or just going through a phase as most young people are prone to do, than you are making a parental decision. You may take this opportunity and assess the risks that your choice will make and weigh the options as you are the parent.
I for one, if my son or daughter asked me that same question, I would hold them to their choices as it is a step into them becoming a responsible adult. My father taught me the same thing and I feel that it has helped me out in the years. Yes I have made mistakes and yes I have had to suffer the outcome to those choices, but you know what? They were my choices and no one elses, I am responsible for my choices and no one else is, even if I am making a colosal screw-up of a choice and am not listening to the warnings of others.
As said in the "Matrix" movies, "The problem and solution is CHOICE"
I wish you the best of luck and I hope that you don't feel judged for your choice.
I hope that you have a great day and continue on in your vaping enthusiasm.
I would make her pay for it but if you know your daughter like non of us could possibly know her, and you fully support your decision once it is made, knowing that in the long run it could possibly lead to her getting nic juice, going to analogs, or just going through a phase as most young people are prone to do, than you are making a parental decision. You may take this opportunity and assess the risks that your choice will make and weigh the options as you are the parent.
I for one, if my son or daughter asked me that same question, I would hold them to their choices as it is a step into them becoming a responsible adult. My father taught me the same thing and I feel that it has helped me out in the years. Yes I have made mistakes and yes I have had to suffer the outcome to those choices, but you know what? They were my choices and no one elses, I am responsible for my choices and no one else is, even if I am making a colosal screw-up of a choice and am not listening to the warnings of others.
As said in the "Matrix" movies, "The problem and solution is CHOICE"
I wish you the best of luck and I hope that you don't feel judged for your choice.
I hope that you have a great day and continue on in your vaping enthusiasm.
Follow your heart.
Only you can know your child.
I will throw this out here: on another thread that I'm a part of, a member has a mom that wanted to try vaping although she has never smoked. It was about a month ago and after careful thought, set her up with no nic. He has just reported that she gave up vaping. It is easier to give up vaping when there is no nic involved. Novelties wear off. When I first started smoking, it didn't take long for the novelty to be gone but by then the cigs had me truly hooked.
I'm not advocating either for nor against. It really is an individual choice and decision. Just food for thought.
Good luck.. Teen years are a 
Only you can know your child.
I will throw this out here: on another thread that I'm a part of, a member has a mom that wanted to try vaping although she has never smoked. It was about a month ago and after careful thought, set her up with no nic. He has just reported that she gave up vaping. It is easier to give up vaping when there is no nic involved. Novelties wear off. When I first started smoking, it didn't take long for the novelty to be gone but by then the cigs had me truly hooked.
I'm not advocating either for nor against. It really is an individual choice and decision. Just food for thought.
Good luck.
. Teen years are a 
My opinion is that you shouldn't let her vape until she is of legal age to do so. Only because we face so much criticism as it is.
Since you have an open communication relationship with your daughter I think you should sit her down and ask her the following questions:
1. Why does she really want to vape?
2. Is it to appear cool to her friends that are smoking? Or does she really think she wants to take up smoking? (I don't see this being the case since she doesn't like the taste of cigarettes)
Also I would explain that you don't approve of her vaping while she is still a minor. Maybe come up with a compromise or deal. For instance, once you can buy such and such mod and so many juices then you can vape.
In the end though I think it should be a solution that you're comfortable with no matter what we say.
Since you have an open communication relationship with your daughter I think you should sit her down and ask her the following questions:
1. Why does she really want to vape?
2. Is it to appear cool to her friends that are smoking? Or does she really think she wants to take up smoking? (I don't see this being the case since she doesn't like the taste of cigarettes)
Also I would explain that you don't approve of her vaping while she is still a minor. Maybe come up with a compromise or deal. For instance, once you can buy such and such mod and so many juices then you can vape.
In the end though I think it should be a solution that you're comfortable with no matter what we say.
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